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Oct 2, 2017

Are Victoria and NSW really going to be forced to start fracking?

Is the Commonwealth Grants Commission about to force states like NSW and Victoria to let rip with fracking? Not quite. But it's an intriguing idea.

Bernard Keane — Politics editor

Bernard Keane

Politics editor

Are states that are reluctant to allow coal seam gas development about to be forced to let rip with fracking? Are we set for a showdown between NSW and Victoria, the two big CSG recalcitrants, and the federal government over GST allocation?

Would-be frackers probably shouldn't get their hopes up.

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12 thoughts on “Are Victoria and NSW really going to be forced to start fracking?

  1. Jackson Harding

    Easy way out for NSW and Vic. Let fracking rip full steam ahead. Royalty rate of $5k a litre. The market will decide. Problem sorted.

  2. lykurgus

    So to clarify… the incentive to allow fracking, is a slightly more favourable consideration of revenue-sharing arrangements; of the type that the Commonwealth has happily reneged on recently (eg. the money from the ports lease).
    Can’t imagine why Andrews would say no to digging up our backyard to save Trembles neck.
    Or why he’d expect them to be satisfied with pouring the entire Bass Strait reserve down the Tamworth Tomatos thirsty throat while he sits on a huge reserve of his own ‘cos the price hasn’t soared high enough yet.

  3. zut alors

    It’s heartening knowing that Queensland politicians’ addiction to CSG & fracking isn’t contagious.

  4. Itsarort

    Let’s hope the Four Corners’ episodes last week and tonight are only the beginnings of a series that exposes what a diabolical shambles Queensland really is in.

  5. Letterboxfrog

    If we’re trying to make all things the same across all jurisdictions, then maybe the feds should tackle land tax (or the lack thereof) in the NT.

  6. AR

    How could anyone think that the current ‘shortage’ of gas for domestic consumption could be rectified by using dangerous,dirty & expensive methods to find small amounts in vulnerable areas?
    I read somewhere that we are one of the world’s largest exporters of gas.
    Cog. Dis. or commercial-in-confidence bastardry?

    1. [email protected]

      If vic ad nsw hadn’t stopped gas development there would be plenty of cheap gas for everyone.

      1. lykurgus

        Pack it in, Mr Joyce, we know it’s you – nobody else can misspell “and”.

  7. [email protected]

    They should be penalised for not alowing gas development. The industries that use gas should be encouraged to o to qld.
    Fracking is proven safe nsw and vic governments are weak and have been taken in by green false religion.

    1. John Hall

      I say tell Canberra to get fracked. Perhaps NSW & VIC should secede. I am sure we have enough Bass Strait oil and gas to fill the gap. I suppose Canberra could relocate to Pauline Hanson’s hinterland where the current elite could feel at home with Adani.

    2. Cmac

      I do not believe Fracking is ‘Safe’ always. Do some research on what is happening around Chinchilla QLD. That company has gone broke & left a big mess for QLD gov. to fix. Damage the water table & it can never be repaired. Why take a risk of long term damage for short term gain. Plenty of gas being exported & for sale, just no-one wants to pay for it.

  8. Dog's Breakfast

    Truly awful logic on the part of the CGC, although I’m sure at the behest of the masters.

    There is nowhere this logic couldn’t be applied. Marijuana crops, opium poppies, ice factories, why not, there’s revenue in it, and if the states aren’t going after it then they should be penalised. More gambling, great, we need that for sure.

    Fracking is not safe, demonstrably does ruin the land and definitely affects the water table and contaminates it at the same time. Also, substantial amounts of escapee gas from these holes, it doesn’t all just come up bubbling through the well site.

    If you suspect that food and water may be vital to our longer term interests, and that perhaps climate change is probably true, then this is a no-brainer. It’s just more distraction from Turnbull. His invidious political position is leading to some of the most grotesque public policy thought bubbles ever emanated. If we could mine the gas in the thought bubbles we’d have an almost limitless supply as long as the LNP exist.

    Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

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