
Well, that was quick. Tom “Heidi” Switzer has done his final broadcast of Sunday Extra, the 7-10am slot on Radio National he took over from Jonathan Green in November last year. In terms of production values, the decision was bewildering: Green (disclosure: my former and current editor, everywhere) had used his substantial editorial talents to build a show of many parts, with light sections and serious ones, the incomparable First Dog’s Guide to Modern Life, and discussion panels that drew from the left and right. The show was appropriate for Sunday morning, when some people were listening after their 6am tai chi session and others were hiding under the covers through a hangover, and it was designed by an editor accustomed to building an audience. This skill, honed in commercial publications and in the internally competitive ABC, is unknown in the drip-fed think tanks and loss-leader publications of the right. At the time of Switzer’s accession, I wrote:
“His Sunday morning slot will be either an attempt by him to play light, Brezhnev-as-DJ, or a grim ploughing through. Either way, a mistake for him, a panicked move by management.”
It was a bit of both, dire radio, like a podcast of a Brookings Institute seminar while you ointment your hemorrhoids. Less than a year in, with the once high-profile show fading to invisibility, Switzer is gone, to be replaced by — and the rightoids will love this — experienced and more rounded broadcaster Fauziah Ibrahim.
Switzer never should have been there, and working out how he was put in the gig is pure Ultimo kremlinology. The move obviously satisfied the baying demands of the right for more balance — as if Green were putting a lefty slant on introducing a James Taylor track — while killing the show. Did they hope Switzer would come good? Or were they expecting him to fail, thus further embarrassing the right with another failed version of the “next Phillip Adams” — contenders so far having been Imre Salusinszky, Tim Blair and Michael Duffy. That’s a cute double play if so; to have a right-wing warrior — an intelligent commentator and good writer — fail so badly at a broader remit that objections to whoever replaces him can be muted at best. If Ibrahim manages to rebuild the show, Switzer and the right-wing push will be further embarrassed, because it will show that, guess what, broadcasting is a profession, with skills learnt over years.
Whatever happens it’s a shame Green’s Sunday Extra was demolished, before he was ready to move on. But that shows you the mirror world we’re in: it’s the left who are the conservatives, wanting traditions — like public broadcasting, and its particular styles — to be built on, preserved, curated. It’s the right who have the politics-first souls of Stalinists, willing to smash anything to make a cheap political gain. They have gained nothing but reversal, and we lost a program loved by many. The loss is somewhat assuaged if it demonstrates to a wider population how the right think: that in their obsessive hatred for the ABC, they would happily destroy everything anybody loves — and the entire population loves something on the ABC — to ram home their point. They make a wilderness, and they call it “freedom”. Meanwhile Switzer will continue to present RN’s Between The Lines — and doubtless sign on to other academic/think tank etc gigs. Anything but test one’s skills in advocating for the free market, on the free market.
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this article’s standfirst incorrectly suggested Tom Switzer had been sacked from ABC Radio National. This is not the case. Switzer left Sunday Extra voluntarily. Crikey regrets the error and apologises unreservedly to him for the mistake.

51 thoughts on “How the right destroyed an ABC gem to push their Stalinist agenda”
paddy
August 29, 2017 at 2:02 pmI’m not sure what I like most about this piece GR.
The fact that Switzer’s basically gone from that part of Sunday morning,
the (well-deserved) hat tip to J.Green for building such a fine structure,
or perhaps just that lovely zinger.
” dire radio, like a podcast of a Brookings Institute seminar while you ointment your hemorrhoids.”
Whatever.
I’d not heard of Fauziah Ibrahim before, but after a quick Google, she certainly looks very interesting. It would be lovely to have something worthwhile on Sunday mornings again.
aliso6
August 29, 2017 at 2:09 pmlike many people, loved Jonathan Green’s Saturday Extra. Switzer just tried the rightwing line and kept trying. I did not know Switzer had gone; I am pleased. Between the Lines is a programme for extreme right wingers, not interested.
As you say, Guy, why take Green off Saturday Extra? Political expediency?
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Robert Smith
August 29, 2017 at 2:17 pmAgree – broadcasting is a profession, with skills learnt over years.
I have listened to Sunday Extra for several years & heard Amanda Vanstone only a few times on our ABC & my main impression is both Switzer & Vanstone are just dull presenters, despite Switzer seeming to try hard & Vanstone occasionally producing an interesting column for the SMH.
Woopwoop
August 29, 2017 at 8:41 pmVanstone has a grating voice and a jerky speaking style.
And that’s apart from her politics.
Salamander
August 29, 2017 at 11:52 pmAnd she’s a hopeless interviewer.
David Donaldson
September 3, 2017 at 2:42 amShe has the value that she shows that the right just does not have the people to be interesting. Her halting, jerky delivery is pesty.
David Donaldson
September 3, 2017 at 2:47 amGive Switzer credit, his Between the Lines is actually interesting.
One day, like J Green and many others, he may develop a mature speaking voice. ABC is full of worse voices than Tom’s e.g. the Big Glasses on The Business after Lateline.
jmendelssohn
August 29, 2017 at 2:21 pmWhat a relief. Since Switzer started trashing Sunday extra I’ve timed my early morning dog walks to be over by 7.30 (Foreign correspondent) so I only have a few minutes of his stupidity. And I’ve also broken the habit of a lifetime by turning the television on before Insiders.
Who on earth decided this incompetent should be anywhere near a radio station?
bjb
August 29, 2017 at 2:21 pmWas very sorry when Jonathan Green got flicked from Sunday Extra. Sort of got used to Switzer, but not unhappy he’s gone.
Now the ABC just needs to move Patricia Karvelas on from Drive – not a patch on Waleed Aly who she replaced.
CML
August 29, 2017 at 4:05 pmAbsolutely agree with your second point, Bjb…Karvelas is a disaster after the wonderful Waleed. All she does is have never ending Coalition idiots on the show…who have nothing to say, except its all Labor’s fault!
Even when the occasional Labour/other person is permitted on the show, Karvelas appears to delight in trying to obtain ‘gotcha’ moments, or talks over the top of them…very annoying.
I read somewhere that she also appears on some Sky News programs? ENOUGH SAID!!
David Donaldson
September 3, 2017 at 2:48 amYes, PK is tiresome most of the time. Now and then, she does press a polly hard.
bjb
September 13, 2017 at 6:44 pmHave to reply to myself — listening to RN Drive the last few nights, Raf Epstein is brilliant, a much, much better interviewer than PK. PK shouldn’t bother coming back.
Graham R
September 13, 2017 at 8:50 pmAgree, BJB. But anything labelled a “Drive” program, that commercial-station derived euphemism for lightweight, try-hard drivel, will be pretty much unlistenable. It just so happens that my schedule means I can listen to “Drive” if I want. I usually make it through the fist 30 seconds of the pollie interview, just to make sure it will be the usual carpet of lying platitudinous and un-challenged smoke-screen, before before switching off with a groan.
In a perfect world no journalist would interview a politician unless they had something to reveal that the politician does not want revealed. Everything else is just propaganda. While I’m on my high horse, we should ban Dorothy Dixers from Parliament for the same reason.
AR
September 13, 2017 at 9:30 pmAgree, otherwise it is free advertising and boring as. No journo. should ever ask a question to which they do not know a better answer.
[email protected]
September 17, 2017 at 10:56 amIs that where Raf Epstein’s gone? Well he can stay there, he constantly interupts his interviewees. On ABC Melbourne, we’re much better off with Tamara Oudyn!
old greybearded one
August 29, 2017 at 2:32 pmI rejoice. I liked Green’s humour. Somehow Switzer even penetrated Occam’s Razor. A self inflating wanker, to be unusually kind, who populated Sundays with IPA drivel. His next to last effort featured Georgina Downer. It was too much, I didn’t listen at all last weekwnd. Perhaps I will enjoy Sunday radio again.
Chris Brooks
August 29, 2017 at 2:45 pmJonathan Green’s Saturday Extra was the best show on Radio National – interesting but not a beat up like many of the other programs have become. In his interviews, Switzer just left his guests’ best comments hanging in the air – as he went on to ask another unrelated question from his cheat sheet.
Bring back Jonathan!
jmendelssohn
August 29, 2017 at 2:49 pm“Sunday Extra”. The incomparable Geraldine Doogue continues to make Saturday Extra compulsory listening for anyone with a brain and a radio.
bjb
August 29, 2017 at 2:52 pm…. however, she seems to be rather too enthralled by those in the business community.
John Newton
August 29, 2017 at 3:01 pmHoo-bloody Ray. Although I had taken to turning over to News Radio or onto Classic FM whenever I heard his cheerless twirpy voice last Sunday, just before the news, I heard him announce “My first guest will be peter Costello!” Now there’s something to look forward to.
Not.
Robert Smith
August 29, 2017 at 3:04 pmYou missed a very penetrating “interview” with our former Treasurer. Not.
Barbara Haan
August 29, 2017 at 3:14 pmThe emasculating of the ABC is illustrated perfectly by them replacing the excellent reporting of Green with that twirp Tom Switzer from “Switzerland”. It’s “their ABC”.
Nudiefish
August 29, 2017 at 3:20 pmI have never heard of Tom Switzer. I looked him up and apparently he wrote a book called, “The Triumph of Tony Abbott”. This fact tells me everything I need to know about the bloke.