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Apr 11, 2017

Centrelink contradicts earlier statements, says paying a debt is admitting it is accurate

A debt paid back to Centrelink is a debt owed, unless those who were forced to repay the debt ask for a review, according to Human Services officials.

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Centrelink will make no effort to ensure that money paid to the organisation as a result of robo-debt notices is money actually owed to Centrelink, a Senate inquiry has heard.

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13 thoughts on “Centrelink contradicts earlier statements, says paying a debt is admitting it is accurate 

  1. paddy

    Good grief!
    While it’s no secret that the DHS is a past master at practicing pure bastardry,
    this stuff is true “jaw on the floor” horror.
    The term “public servant” has obviously morphed into some horror beyond recognition.
    A change of Govt can’t come soon enough.

  2. Draco Houston

    This is a great example of why we should never trust the government with our data. Did the people filing tax returns know that it would result in an erroneous debt from centrelink 7 years later despite their paperwork being in order? My guess would be: No, that’s insane.

    But all it takes is insane idiots to be running a department and that information is theirs to use for whatever crimes they wish to commit against the people. It may not be the worst case of this happening, not much can compete with the Holocaust, but it is far from the first. It is going to keep happening as long as the state can compel us to do whatever they want us to do.

  3. Gwen Clark

    FRAUD, TO DEFRAUD. The term ‘fraud’ is generally defined in the law as an intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage.

    Tell me how DHS is not committing fraud. Surely this is indictable behaviour.

    1. Wayne Cusick

      How is Tudge still a minister?

      How is Tudge still a member of parliament?

  4. Marjorie Carless

    Just another grab for money by a government that has no morals. Get them out and quickly and hope the next lot learn lessons from the LNP debacle.

  5. Yclept

    Sack these clowns and gaol them for fraud! Simple really.

  6. klewso

    “Obtaining property/money under false pretences”?

  7. Kevin_T

    To paraphrase:
    You owe us money. If you wish to dispute this, please start making repayments while we determine whether you are guilty or not.
    …Since you have started repaying this debt, it proves that you know that you owe the money and are therefore guilty, so we will go no further in investigating this matter and expect full repayment or we will pursue you through all legal channels.

    ===========
    Circular logic, or just a fraud that any commercial enterprise would be prosecuted for?

  8. Norm

    Simply the actions of a politicised public service at the senior levels. We should always guard and fight against that, but, at least in this case, our Ombudsmans’ offices are still providing ‘frank and fearless’ advice to government. Once that ceases, we know we are in real trouble.

  9. AR

    Not only is this fraud by the department but surely it is “demanding money with menaces”?
    I’ve asked several times since this farrago began why some public spirited lawyer (yeah, I know, an oxymoron) has not launched a class action against this abuse of power.

    1. Robynski

      and I’ve asked you, why do you expect lawyers to work for free? there are plenty of lawyers working for modest wages in community legal centres and legal aid commissions who are assisting victims of this farrago. What are you doing, besides yelling ‘something must be done!’

  10. Kim Colbourne

    Surely that is fraud!

  11. Ian Thomas

    The Ombudsman may have been issuing scathing reports, but isn’t it the Aust. Federal Police’s job to investigate such a massive, widespread, fraudulent scam as this?
    — Thommo

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