Victoria

Jan 16, 2017

Lib candidate promotes racial profiling, which does have one upside

Racial profiling has been prohibited by Victoria Police since 2015, but James Newbury wants to change all that.

Shakira Hussein — Writer and academic in multiculturalism

Shakira Hussein

Writer and academic in multiculturalism

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  1. Damon

    Thanks for posting this. As a resident of Mr Newbury’s constituency of candidature, you can be sure I will be doing everything to hold him accountable for his views.

  2. JMNO

    Th other thing is when does a person become an Australian and stop being a member of a ‘race’? Is someone born in Australia a member of race for profiling purposes? Second generation?

  3. The Curmudgeon

    A sad indictment of the Victorian Liberal Party that an ultra-safe seat can be gifted to a boof-head like this.

    1. bushby jane

      Aren’t they all, note Tim Wilson and James Paterson although they are Fed govt.
      Just for the record I love the MIA ad, it actually makes the point of being ‘Australian’rather than a race.

  4. Hugh Harris

    I think the performance of Australia’s security services in preventing terror attacks has been astonishing.
    Rather than suggesting the people who put their own safety at risk are racist, perhaps we should consider for a minute the usefulness of information in solving and preventing crimes. The people working daily in jobs where post traumatic stress disorder is endemic are just as entitled to consideration as the ethnic communities they serve.
    The generalisation that “all police are” so and so is just as improper as racial or gender stereotyping. It also fuels the sort of anti-police attitudes the author refers to. A policeman also once stopped me from jaywalking – what an oppressive police-state we live in! Build a bridge…

    1. craig english

      “The people working daily in jobs where post traumatic stress disorder is endemic are just as entitled to consideration as the ethnic communities they serve.”

      Wait, what??

      Because cops deal with PTSD, we should give them more powers to racially vilify certain members of the community as, what, a counter-measure?

      Brilliant!

      1. Hugh Harris

        Nice: I suggest you google straw man.
        I said “equal consideration” as you quote. That means not making the gross and bigoted assumption they are all racist.

      2. Hugh Harris

        Nice: I suggest you google straw man.
        I said “equal consideration” as you quote. That means not making the gross and bigoted assumption they are all racist.

        1. craig english

          “I said “equal consideration””

          No, you didn’t.

          The author didn’t so much as insinuate that all police are racist. That you’ve taken it as such says more about you than the author. You’ve just pulled a #notallmen or #alllivesmatter and missed the overarching point of the article, as well as seen fit to tell the author to “build a bridge” because you thought she was making it all about her.

          You’re doing a fine job of reinforcing her concerns.

          1. Hugh Harris

            “The author didn’t so much as insinuate that all police are racist. ” Oh really? Not in these quotes?

            “…of continued racial profiling and unconscious bias on the part of the police.”
            “had I not been left wondering whether they would have stood waiting for a protracted period of time outside a “mainstream” hipster grocery outlet in a “white” neighbourhood rather than an Arab grocery store ”
            I’m sorry, but there’s only so much sympathy one can summon for being stopped for jaywalking.
            And pray tell, why shouldn’t police be “just as entitled to consideration”, or equal consideration?

          2. craig english

            “Oh really? Not in these quotes?”

            Really.

            “And pray tell, why shouldn’t police be “just as entitled to consideration”, or equal consideration?”

            I don’t believe I said they shouldn’t be. What was contentious about your remarks was that you refuse to see the undertones of racial profiling that already pervade the community.

            I’m not the only one who read that article and came away with the understanding that the police as a whole were not being tarred with the same brush. Perhaps look at why you couldn’t – or, rather, refused to – arrive at the same conclusion.

          3. Hugh Harris

            “What was contentious about your remarks was that you refuse to see the undertones of racial profiling that already pervade the community.”

            Baloney. My comments argue against stereotyping people. Only the wilfully blind could not see that.

          4. craig english

            “Only the wilfully blind could not see that.”

            Do you see the irony of this statement?

        2. thelorikeet

          Hardly a ‘straw man’ to reject nostrums amounting to ‘all police action is good’. Cops are cops. Some are good. Some are not. The policing system is geared to find badness in the community, and racial profiling is a distortion away from the search for badness to the search for race.
          Liberty onnce taken is taken forever. Racial profiling and the might efforts of our police can and have been used to deprecate liberty before andwill again. You lack ‘eternal vigilance’ at your peril – and mine.

    2. Ben.

      They didn’t stop her from jaywalking, they let it happen and then waited outside the shop to confront her about it.
      Funny thing with jaywalking, I’ve only ever seen police issue tickets at crossings in the city where they were specifically targeting jaywalkers. Other times I’ve personally jaywalked in front of police officers and police cars and they haven’t blinked. Following and waiting for someone just to give a verbal warning? That’s odd.

      But the point of the piece is that if this suburban warrior’s plan was put into action, Shakira’s name would be logged in a database along with her race, for easy cross referencing and collating purposes, because despite current evidence to the contrary, he wants to be able to prove his pet theory that those he considers foreign are behind all crime.
      (I don’t think he even actually wants or expects this to happen, he’s just trying to prove what a tuff boy he is to his Tory mates and make a name for himself in the party as a hard man who isn’t scared to stick it to those they consider ‘other’ – it’s not political correctness that stopped racial profiling, it was high court rulings. )

      And if you want to stick up for coppers rights, pause to consider that Newbury has never worked in law enforcement, yet is calling for something that would make policing harder due to divisions it causes in the community.

  5. AR

    As to how long someone must have lived in Oz not to be subject to racial profiling perhaps an Aboriginal could answer that.

  6. [email protected]

    Well I guess if Mr Newbury wants to racially profile, then he should consider the current criminal profile. I would expect them to be 1. Australian 2. Brits 3. Kiwis & none of those racially defined. That WOULD be living in hope. Look at how ATSI are stereotyped in our prisons, and in the general population. Is that what Mr Newbury wants to do? He has been beaten to it.

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