Canberra’s worst-kept secret was made official today, with former treasurer Joe Hockey announced as Australia’s next ambassador to the United States. Hockey has also given his first interviewsince getting booted from the job of treasurer, to businessman Mark Bouris, founder of Wizard Home Loans and host of Celebrity Apprentice, as part of his podcast series The Mark Bouris Show.

It’s an unusual choice for an exit interview, but Bouris opens the podcast by emphasising that he and Hockey go way back. It’s an interesting insight into Hockey’s frame of mind, with Bouris opening by asking if Hockey had ever imagined that he would be treasurer of Australia. “Nah, I thought I’d be prime minister,” Hockey said. He still seems excited about Australia’s economic policy, speaking at length about how Australia should help businesses and the opportunities in Asia and saying “governments are bad investors”. Hockey also explained why he left politics, saying he would have been too focused on “getting even with people,” after the spill that booted him and Tony Abbott from their powerful jobs.

“If I was going to stay it’d be overwhelmingly about getting even with people that brought me down.”

“I love my country and my family more than I hate my enemies.”

We wonder if Tony Abbott, Kevin Andrews and Eric Abetz will tune in and take note.

Peter Fray

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Peter Fray
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