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Aug 26, 2014

Rundle: c’mon everyone, let’s play Senate Bingo!

Will David Leyonhelm vote with the Greens on same-sex marriage? Will Ricky Muir back the Coalition on foreign policy? Play Crikey's handy Senate Bingo game and find out!

Guy Rundle — Correspondent-at-large

Guy Rundle

Correspondent-at-large

With the political-media establishment still reeling from the shock of the 2014 Senate result and the horror of having to do actual politics to get a program through, much of the electorate is still confused about how it all stacks up. We asked Paul Kelly, but he was going up the down escalator of decline. We asked Annabel Crabb, but she was baking scones for Aleksandr Lukashenko. We asked Peter Hartcher, who told us that Rudd’s leadership was in doubt. So we did it ourselves. Here, at vast expense to the management, is 50 shades of dynamic Red.

The numbers:

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14 thoughts on “Rundle: c’mon everyone, let’s play Senate Bingo!

  1. Paul Rodan

    One observation: the President of the Senate, who has a deliberative, not casting vote, usually does vote.

  2. Andrew Bartlett

    For accuracies sake it needs to be said that the Senate President (a Lib) usually does vote. Unlike the Speaker in the House of Reps, they don’t get a casting vote, so a tied vote (38 apiece) iis resolved in the negative. However, the required numbers used in the various examples about don’t change- the Govt still needs 38 votes in addition to the President’s.

    The possibility of the 3 PUP votes fracturing is something that may come into play over time.

    Likewise, there are the 2 occasionally renegade Liberals – Ian MacDonald and Cory Bernardi – who clearly are reacting to the fact that they will never again come off the backbench by regularly hinting they might vote against the Libs on various issues. Whether they will ever do so in a situation where their votes will be the deciders is another matter.

  3. blake andrew

    Not sure about your numbers on Marriage Equality. I can get to 32 on a conscience vote from Greens (10), Labor (15), Libs (rather generously 5), Xenophon and Leyohjhelm. So to pass it would need all 4 PUPs plus a couple of Libs to reverse their positions.

    Don’t believe AME’s hype. A conscience isn’t going to get the right answer. The numbers are just not their in this parliament. Both the ALP (a combination of deliberately, cockups – WA, and losing seats) and Libs (deliberately) need a good job at purging marriage equality supporters.

  4. rachel612

    Oh come on, this falls at the first hurdle. What on earth do you mean painting the ALP as “left” on foreign policy? Have you forgotten how fast we fell over ourselves to be part of Gulf War I during the Hawke Era? The ALP hasn’t been anti-military since Gough was in charge.

    And on border protection? The current mob are arsehats, but look at Labor’s policies during Rudd/Gillard. Utterly reprehensible.

  5. Venise Alstergren

    I’m with RACHEL612 on this one. After a general election the entire population of ASIO must fall, like the hammer of Zeus, on the new PM. No matter what He/she said before it, there will be the sound of an almighty swish as the newly elected members swiftly change direction and genuflect to America.

  6. klewso

    I don’t know what to make of this – beyond a game of Spin the PUP (with “Miss a Turn” when you land on M’nuir)?

  7. Bill Hilliger

    Ah the senate. We live in most interesting times, with lots of political entertainment ahead. I wouldn’t miss it for quids. Lets hope Palmer United continue keep it interesting …he may just do that. He certainly has the MSM stenographers (formerly known as journalist) bluffed.

    As for Team Murdoch, let them call a DD. Team Australia will be waiting for them with electoral / political baseball bats. We of Team Australia say bring it on!

  8. Guy Rundle

    Rachel
    its the senate, not the whole political spectrum. It’s a question of what sort of numbers labor can get to defeat a bill, or the coalition to pass one. Yes, in some cases labor will vote with libs so as not to appear soft on nat sec etc. But this piece is about the situations where there is a major party division

  9. fractious

    Worth the entry price just for this:
    “We asked Paul Kelly, but he was going up the down escalator of decline. We asked Annabel Crabb, but she was baking scones for Aleksandr Lukashenko. We asked Peter Hartcher, who told us that Rudd’s leadership was in doubt.”

    The Modern Mainstream Political Journalist in three sentences. Delish.

    Though I’ve got to say calling Palmer (let alone the other PUP loose cannons) one way or another on any issue is, as Sir Humphrey would have said, “very brave, if I may say so, Minister”.

  10. Graham R

    Too kind to Labor here, Guy.

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