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Jun 13, 2014

Iraq insurgency revives shuffling zombie neocon army

The chaos in Iraq is another chance for neoconservatives to push for Western intervention -- a course that will again make us less safe from terrorism.

Bernard Keane — Politics editor

Bernard Keane

Politics editor

“To the American people, I know you’re war-weary, I know you’re tired of dealing with the Mid-East. But the people that are moving into Iraq and holding ground in Syria have as part of their agenda not only to drive us out of the Mid-East, but to hit our homeland.”

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34 thoughts on “Iraq insurgency revives shuffling zombie neocon army

  1. Mark Duffett

    So spell it out, Crikey and Keane: your position is that Islamists more extreme than Al Qaeda should be left to take over Iraq entirely unencumbered by any Western action, yes?

  2. klewso

    Or “Do the job right – with a plan – rather than a wish and some PR” this time?

  3. Dan B

    The same thing will follow the total withdrawal in Afghanistan. We left Iraq because of politics, not based on conditions on the ground. Nor by assessments from our Generals.
    Although Obama has extended the US’ presence in Afghanistan by another 3 years, the inevitable withdrawal will create the same vacuum and conditions for a resurgent al Qaeda funded insurgency to cause chaos in its wake. We will never learn.

  4. pragmatic

    Remember Vietnam ……..

  5. Djbekka

    Here is the issue stated in a different way. Do we produce democracy with the barrels of foreign guns? Can we even produce safe places to have a multicultural society with guns? I would say that the answer is no even though that seems to be the way US led coalitions seems to operate – have an election, get a reasonable outcome – take the army away and leave the elected government to do the job of elected governments in the West. I just can’t see the US military or any military, conducting actions which bring local combatants together, get them talking, provide jobs for disaffected youths, protect mosques of different sects, see that girls get to school safely and the economy operates at as a peace economy.

    On the other hand, my cynical side can see it is a tempting way for the current government in Australia to regain some authority. The question asked by Mark Duffett rolls over all other considerations and reduces the issue to the West and the ‘extremists’. I agree that ISIS is extreme. I don’t agree that Western military intervention is the immediate answer. I don’t agree that the way to support the millions of refugees is to spend our money on things that blow up rather than on houses, food and assistance in organising self sustaining safe camp communities.

    This is a case in which Islamists are attacking Muslims in their homes and cities. How will millions of western dollars in military intervention really help Iraqis who want to worship in their mosques, work in their businesses and live in their homes?

    There has to be another, and much more complex, way to move away from civil war.

  6. AR

    Sen. Graham was the genius who said, in defeating yet another piss-weak gun control following a massacre,”..large capacity magazines (for assault rifles) are necessary to that a mother doesn’t run out of bullets defending herself..“.
    Can it be that the US exports terror because it has so much of it in the dementented amerikan scream?
    It can’t be simple, stupid greed as the original Republican reptile, PJO’Rourke, opined, “it cost us more to steal Iraq’s oil than to buy it”.

  7. graybul

    Passing on advice to ideologically driven ultra Conservative Politicians ie Abbott/Morrison/Brandis etc; whether those wishing to inform be Intelligence Oganizations, serving or ex General(s), or distraught General Public et al . . tends to be painful, thankless and ultimately a bloody great waste of time!!

  8. Stuart Coyle

    Perhaps it’s time that Tony Abbot read his predecessor’s book, “Dangerous Allies” by Malcolm Frazer. I’m sure Mal is saying ‘I told you so’ right now.

  9. Venise Alstergren

    And to think our gallant Tony Abbott has already volunteered Australian troops, to Mr Obama, to fight another useless, and counter-productive, atrocity to the Middle East and Asia.

  10. John Hamer

    well put Mark Duffett. Agree entirely with your sentiments.

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