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May 6, 2014

Crikey says: the Libs rounding on Abbott over levy

Did News Corp get its money's worth from James Packer and David Gyngell? How Nathan Tinkler got tied up in ICAC. Essential: we're divided on the deficit tax. How wrong the Audit of Commission was on health. Australia turns its back on the Nigerian schoolgirls. The Slavic tragedy of Ukraine. A lifeline for New Matilda? And the many crimes of Jeremy Clarkson.

Crikey has new polling today suggesting the electorate is split on the need for a debt tax. The Liberal fraternity, meanwhile, seems anything but ... Former Liberal Treasurer Peter Costello:
"The proposed tax levy has no economic benefit; it will detract from growth by reducing consumption."
Former Liberal frontbencher Peter Reith:
"I don’t like the deficit tax, I don’t like it at all."
Former Liberal leader John Hewson:
"You've got tax concessions, for example, in superannuation from which you can raise a substantial amount of money [instead of a debt levy]. They are heavily biased in favour of the wealthy, they don't impact on immediate economic activity, they impact on savings behaviour down the track."
Commission of Audit head Tony Shepherd:
"I'd say that if they were to bring in something like that, they'd need to be very careful about implementing any of our recommendations which have an immediate impact on the individual."
Liberal MP Warren Entsch:
"It’s a tax -- it’s not a levy."
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13 thoughts on “Crikey says: the Libs rounding on Abbott over levy

  1. zut alors

    As usual, John Hewson is the one talking the most sense.

    Note that despite Emma Alberici (last night’s Lateline) presenting overseas evidence of the consequences of depriving unemployed youths of welfare payments, Shepherd was unmoved & stuck to his guns. Apparently facts are not pertinent.

  2. David Hand

    At least the right side of politics is upfront about differing views, compared to the totalitarian culture that exists in the ALP.

    I think the tax is a really stupid idea.

    And Zut, comparing Australia to youth unemployment in Spain is not really credible is it? Spain’s unemployment is over 25%. It’s economy is in free fall.



  3. AR

    The old saw, “if’n ye be not a socialist at 20, y’ve nay heart. If y’re still a socialist at 30 y’ve nay brain” would seem in need of amendment with the addition of “and if you’r still right wing once you lose the Liberal leadership, you’re amoral, sociopathic & brain dead. Or John Howard.

  4. Matt Hardin

    So David, the current Australian figure if 1 in 8 is OK is it? Our debt is less than a quarter of Spain’s so we are actually dong worse. How will taking money off them help?

    Just as an aside I am completing a Dip Ed in July along with another 30 or so people. An LNP hiring freeze over here in WA limits job prospects. I guess it is our fault we can’t get work as teachers…

  5. David Hand

    Matt, your quaint sense of entitlement that the taxpayer owes you a job is so naïve it’s almost touching.

    Have a chat to a car worker or a miner sometime. It’s not their fault either.

  6. Matt Hardin

    It’s hardly a sense of entitlement, David. It’s disgust at the attitude that the unemployed should be punished to “encourage” them to get jobs that don’t exist. Jobs that people want to do, have sacrificed to train for, have worked to become proficient at. I include miners and car workers and all the others. My point is that it is not their fault and punishing them further is appalling.

  7. CML

    I agree with you, Matt H… How does putting a levy on the wealthy reduce consumption (Costello), but if you lower welfare payments (thereby punishing people for not procuring non-existent jobs) it doesn’t have the same effect?
    This lot are doing my head in!!

  8. David Hand

    Punishing people?
    It’s the real world.

    The government lost its capability of guaranteeing everyone a job in the 70s. That’s what the reforming years of Hawke and Keating were about.

    The government’s role in 2014 is to help people through a painful transition not stop the transition occurring.

  9. Matt Hardin

    Well it is failing at that. High skill jobs replaced by low skill jobs. Low skill jobs off shored. Entry level jobs being automated. Fraction of GDP going to profit as opposed to labour increasing. Inequality increasing. And now cuts to welfare, removal of welfare for students for first six months. Welfare linked to relocation. I suggest that the poor, the unemployed, the disadvantaged are being punished to balance the budget when they did nothing to cause the problem. They did to make the bad investment decisions, they did not gamble derivatives, they did not aggressively minimise tax, they did not contribute to the poor decisions of what car to build yet they pay the price.

  10. Matt Hardin

    By the way, you talk if transition. What is the end point? To what are transitioning? Who benefits from the new state of affairs? I genuinely want to know. I want to know if the sacrifices are worth it.

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