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Apr 14, 2014

Counting votes, the Wright way: what the AEC should be looking at

There's been plenty of talk on the system of preferential voting in the wake of the Western Australian election rerun. But mathematics masters student Casey Briggs says we should focus on the method of counting itself.

There’s been an awful lot of attention on the Australian Electoral Commission lately. In the wake of entirely unknown candidates getting catapulted into the Senate, Parliament’s Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters is currently conducting an inquiry into the conduct of the 2013 election, and every man and his dog has an opinion on what needs to change.

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  1. wayne robinson

    Now I understand how the counting of the Senate election is done…

    Personally, I’d also like the ballot papers to be changed – instead of ‘left to right’ make it ‘top to bottom’. Instead of voting above the line or below the line, vote to the left of the line or to the right of the line.

    With 77 candidates, I found that the ballot paper went halfway up the left side of the booth and also the right side too. Very difficult to manage. If the ballot is top to bottom, then you could just dangle one end of the paper over the front of the booth – which would be easier to manage.

  2. Jaybuoy

    Those following the ICAC inquiry have ascertained why Bob was such an absolutely fabulous Premier, he was Eddies patsy..

  3. Don

    whether for seats or the Senate, State or Federal, as well as this fairly weird anomaly, political commentators and the electorate at large seem to constantly ignore what I believe is the ‘elephant in the room’ – the very fact that preferences RETAIN their full value regardless of how many times their preferences have been distributed.

    to illustrate in a simple – but totally applicable – example.

    why should your 10th preference (for someone you prob don’t even like) still be worth exactly the same value towards the result as my 1st preference????

  4. Gavin Moodie

    This seems to be a sensible suggestion, ‘cept that many are skeptical of voting systems that can’t be readily replicated and checked manually since only a few experts can scrutinise a computer program.

  5. [email protected]

    [There’s been plenty of talk on the system of preferential voting in the wake of the Western Australian election rerun. But mathematics masters student Casey Briggs says we should focus on the method of counting itself.]

    What can I say… I highly agree, we need to review the counting rules and the way the vote is counted.

    The system that is in place was designed to facilitate a manual count. It is a trade off of bad practice short cuts designed to reduce the time taken to count the vote not to reflect the voters intentions.

    With computerized counting we need to strip the system back to its basics and apply a reiterative count where the transfer surplus is weighted to the value of the vote and any surplus distributed as a single transfer without segmentation.

    Likewise we need to do the same with exclusion. But so as to ensure that a full value vote originally for a minor candidate is always distributed to the next continuing candidate the best way to achieve this and to reflect the voters intention is to reset and restart the count afresh as if the excluded candidate had not stood.

    A vote for an excluded minor candidate is redistributed so that the next available preference becomes their first preference vote and if need be forms part of a surplus of an elected candidate without skipping any candidate that had not been excluded. Only surpluses are distributed in any given iteration.

    In the past the time taken to apply a reiterative count was prohibitive. with the use of a computerised counting system it is desirable and should be implemented, scraping the various tweaks, loops skips hops and jumps that the have been introduced to facilitate manual counting. Methods that distort the proportionality and simplicity of a Proportional Representation STV count.

    No segmentation, a single transfer of surplus votes n any one iteration.

    In addition to a reiterative count we should also consider scraping the Droop Quota (X/(y+1)) and revert to a pure proportional system (x/y) with the recommended Wright system of counting the vote

    I did have the opportunity to day to outline to the JSCEM committee this issue

    If I can suggest that Crikey publish the counting flow chart at outlines the Wright counting process along side the above article as it may help its readers understand the process better.

    Thanks for the review

    Anthony van der Craats
    Systems Analyst

  6. [email protected]

    I should also point out that the system in place now does now does can advantage and disadvantage any of the major parties.

    In 2007 Analysis of the Queensland Vote shows that Larisa Waters should have been elected but failed as a result of the method of re-disributing excluded candidates preferences

    In the same electing in Victoria Labor Candidate David Feeney nearly lost out as a result of the distortion in the way the Surplus Transfer value is calculated.

    Likewise in the original WE Senate count the results varied depending on which aspects of the count you applied.

    1. The adoption of a weighted Surplus Transfer value is essential

    2. The adoption of a reiterative count where the count is reset and restarted on each exclusion is highly desirable.

    A single weighted transaction per candidate is a must

    Removal of the Droop Quota is desirable

    [What is clear is that the System, as it is, can not and must not be allowed to stand.]

    We must go back to basics and simplify and in the process correct the way we count the vote. Which is what the Wright system does.

    If we adopt optional preferential then a reiterative system is essential.

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