Feb 21, 2014

It’s the end of the ALP as we know it (and Greens feel fine)

The Labor Party is under attack from both sides, writes La Trobe University professorial fellow Dennis Altman at Inside Story. Voters trust the Liberals more to manage the economy; progressives are increasingly turning to the Greens.

The Tasmanian Labor government is almost certain to lose power in March, so blame the Greens. That seems to be the current strategy of the Labor Party, and one that might well perpetuate the party’s losses. Interviewed on ABC’s 7.30 after calling next month’s state election, Premier Lara Giddings said her Labor-Green coalition had been a good government, but because her voters didn’t like the Greens she would promise no more coalitions.

I wish Leigh Sales had followed up by asking her whether she would countenance a “grand coalition” with the Liberals if the Greens happened to end up with the balance of power (though this is unlikely given that the polls suggest an outright Liberal victory). But Giddings’ constant refrain that she stood for Labor values, without any explanation of which of those values her Greens ministers had not accepted, is a microcosm of the confusion within Labor about where the party now stands.

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25 thoughts on “It’s the end of the ALP as we know it (and Greens feel fine)

  1. klewso

    Labor can’t seem to remember, are they the hounds or the foxes?

  2. david hare

    I wish Dennis could apply his calm and clear ability to analyse Labor within the bigger picture of what we call OZ politics to the NSW ALP as well. It seems to me until the NSW party has rebirthed itself, and the Federal party has followed suit we are condemned to indefinite life under a frightening Neocon Coalition.

    I said “we” but I no longer live in Australia so I perhaps shouldn’t. The day Shorten, Arbib and the others knifed Rudd in 2010 and did their own masters’ bidding was the day Labor lost the plot for the foreseeable future. Now they aren’t even an audible opposition and they have yet to enunciate a change of heart on the appalling refugee tragedy.
    I regret to say I’m glad I no longer live there, actually. The physical distance becomes an emotional one as well and just as necessary.

  3. el tel

    The basic problem with this argument is that it is not borne out at all by recent election results, with a very small number of exceptions. Outside of the state of Victoria, the swings away from the Greens were quite large.

    In electorates where the Greens would expect to do well – like Sydney and Grayndler – they were swings back to Labor. In Denison, a long time Greens stronghold, their vote was decimated by independent Andrew Wilkie. In SA, three times as many people voted for Nick Xenophon as for Sarah Hanson Young.

    In Victoria, as the only state to buck the national trend, there were two extenuating factors: a very well resourced campaign for Adam Bandt to retain the seat of Melbourne, and resentment among Labor voters about the dumping of Julia Gillard from the Labor leadership.

    The article basically mistakes huffing and puffing on social media for substantive political trends.

  4. j.oneill

    The late Gore Vidal described the US system as one business party with two right wings. It is increasingly obvious that a similar tend has emerged here. On the odd issue there is the pretence of a fight; eg union power, but on the fundamental issues they are indistinguishable. That particularly applies in my own area of special interest, foreign affairs, but it is equally true on economic matters, the environment, taxation, health and education etc etc.

    The Green Party is the only major party offering a significant policy differential, but the stupidities of the existing electoral system will probably condemn them to the 10-12% share of the vote for the foreseeable future.

    As Dennis points out, it is a measure of Labor Party hypocrisy that they are happy to accept Green support to cling to power (eg Gillard; Giddings) but when the electorate punishes them for their timidity it is all the Green’s fault! The electorate is not so stupid that it cannot see the self-serving hypocrisy for what it is.

  5. Elbow Patches

    Huff, puff… This voter wants a coherent option combining elements of both greens and labor and no slagging each other off.

  6. el tel

    If storming around being morally outraged by everything was considered the key to good public policy, then Sarah Hanson Young would have stratospheric levels of public support. As that is clearly not the case, then much more must be at play.

  7. klewso

    SHY scares people away.

  8. linda

    el tel
    you confuse “good public policy” with “public support”. yet the 2 get further away from each other every day…..

  9. zac48

    SHY….The morally outraged fifteen year old who never managed to grow up. She likes horses too.

  10. Hamis Hill

    Certainly Labor could ignore The Greens altogether, but at the same time borrow the International Greens principle of Economic and Social Justice.
    That might stop ” egalitarianism and social justice disappearing from the common language” as the author rightly warns.
    Now the International Greens have had their principles of economic and social justice, and grass roots participatory democracy for the best part of four decades, almost two generations, without either of these principles entering the “common language” of any journalists at any time at all.
    Even the Australian Democrats borrowed them to no avail, calling them “common” rather than Greens’ principles.
    Perhaps a “major” party like Labor needs to adopt these principles for the political journalist class to wake up to them, and include them in the common language of politics? Yes? Then they will not be beneath notice, as they appear to be when they are merely Greens principles, never to be countenanced and certainly never ever mentioned on any article?
    Anyone remember the attempt, by the famous anti nuclear campaigner, Dr Helen Caldicott to start up Green Labor in 1988?
    “It’s never to late to start again, to find the people who caused the pain, and help them learn your name”.
    Green Labor.
    And there’s Malcolm Fraser’s “Green Liberals”?
    Imagine a government comprising a coalition of Green Labor and Green Liberals, what would we call them, The Greens?
    Anyone for democracy and justice?

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