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Jun 14, 2013

Australia's supine reaction to our surveillance planet

While other US allies demand answers on the Edward Snowden revelations about mass US surveillance of private citizens, the Australian government wants the whole thing to go away and tells us there's nothing to worry about. Fail.


The official Australian reaction to the revelations of the full extent of the Obama administration’s surveillance state — surveillance planet, perhaps more accurately — has been underwhelming even by the standards of a US vassal state.

Foreign Minister Bob Carr’s response on Meet The Press to whether Australians should be concerned that the US National Security Agency has been secretly conducting mass surveillance via internet services the majority of Australians routinely use was “I wouldn’t think so”.

Carr — Americaphile and long-term source for US diplomats — appeared to be reading from talking points sent straight from the State Department. “There’s no country that takes the rights of its citizens more seriously than with America, with that focus, through its Bill of Rights and its Supreme Court, on where individuals stand in relationship to government,” he went on to claim. “It’s a lively political system in America.”

In fact, the accurate description of the role of the political system in the US on mass surveillance has until now been “supine”, with most members of Congress either content to remain indifferent to the extraordinary overreach of national security agencies in the US and the secrecy the executive branch has cloaked it in, or active collaborators in it. Intelligence committee chair Dianne Feinstein’s anger about the revelations wasn’t about the NSA conducting mass surveillance, but that Americans had learnt about it. That reliable terrorism expert, Republican Congressman and IRA supporter Peter King, wanted both Edward Snowden and journalist Glenn Greenwald put on trial.

While some libertarian conservative representatives and senators are now speaking out in the US, only Democrat Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall have consistently pushed back against both the secrecy demanded by the executive and the extraordinary powers given to national security agencies (overnight, they released a statement in effect calling bullshit on the head of the NSA’s claim that “dozens” of terror attacks had been stopped by mass surveillance programs).

At least the fact that Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper (whom Roger Wegener pointed out on Twitter has an Order of Australia award) blatantly perjured himself when he lied to Congress under oath about the non-existence of mass surveillance by the NSA appears to have upset US politicians.

So much for Carr’s encomium of a country that takes the rights of its citizens more seriously than any other. Perhaps he should ask Foggy Bottom for some less hokey-sounding talking points.

Then there was our Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus’ response to proposals to require greater accountability for law enforcement requests for telecommunications data, which they can currently access without a warrant (this is related to the data retention issue: the fact that companies are increasingly not keeping such data is of concern to law enforcement and intelligence agencies, which want to require companies to keep that data so they can access it).

“Apparently it’s possible to be a US ally and not do the equivalent of sticking one’s fingers in one’s ears and yelling until the subject goes away.”

While others have come late to the issue, Greens Senator Scott Ludlam has been tirelessly pursuing this issue for a couple of years, drawing attention to the extraordinary number of data accesses by law enforcement bodies — 293,000 times by law enforcement bodies only in 2011-12. This week he proposed that law enforcement bodies be required to obtain a warrant based on a threshold that a serious offence (punishable by three years jail or more) is suspected, the same test as required to read emails, for example.

Dreyfus dismissed the proposal in a 7.30 report, saying that “law enforcement in Australia would grind to a halt”. Dreyfus may have made more expansive argument that was edited by 7.30, but it hasn’t appeared elsewhere. And there is a significant debate to be had about the impact on law enforcement of requiring a warrant for something that is currently done hundreds of thousands of times a year just by filling in a form. But Dreyfus appears unwilling to have such a debate, possibly because his department is currently engaged in trying to dramatically expand surveillance and law enforcement powers, not provide more accountability for them.

Dreyfus of course also declined to reveal the extent to which Australian intelligence and law enforcement agencies use data obtained by the NSA, although given the close cooperation between Anglophone intelligence agencies, the answer is almost certainly that Australian agencies make extensive use of it.

And yesterday there was, arguably, the worst moment: the response of the Privacy Commissioner, Timothy Pilgrim, to concern about US spying on Australians. There were two aspects to Pilgrim’s statement. He correctly pointed out that the circumstances in which the Privacy Act covers practices outside Australia were limited and didn’t extend to “the acts and practices of overseas government agencies”. This reflects the simple reality of legislation: the privacy commissioner is charged with undertaking functions identified in the Privacy Act, and has no authority to act beyond these. But Pilgrim also made this observation:

“the right to privacy is not absolute — it must be balanced against other important rights and ideals, such as freedom of expression and national security. In Australia, the federal Privacy Act and telecommunications laws recognise this and include a number of exemptions and exceptions for intelligence and law enforcement agencies and their activities.”

It was a bizarre statement, the addition of what seemed to be personal opinion to what would otherwise have been an uncontestable, if not particularly popular, fact about his legislative remit. Here was the man charged with ensuring the legislated privacy protections Australians are supposed to enjoy are upheld explaining why national security should trump privacy.

If indeed Pilgrim holds the opinion that privacy ranks so low in the order of government priorities, then he’s evidently a poor fit for his current job and should consider a shift to Attorney-General’s, or an intelligence or law enforcement agency where his priorities would be more welcome.

While the Australian government was collectively shrugging its shoulders and insisting there was nothing to see in the Snowden revelations, other governments were less sanguine. The UK equivalent of the Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security is travelling to the US on pre-arranged business and will be raising the matter with their counterparts. The European Commission’s vice-president has written to US Attorney-General Eric Holder demanding answers ahead of an EU-US meeting today. Pilgrim’s Canadian counterpart has launched an investigation of Canadian use of PRISM surveillance data and possibly the US program’s impact on Canadians as well. Germany’s Justice Minister attacked the program.

Apparently it’s possible to be a US ally and not do the equivalent of sticking one’s fingers in one’s ears and yelling until the subject goes away. The Australian government should take note.


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19 thoughts on “Australia’s supine reaction to our surveillance planet

  1. Christopher Nagle

    I think you will find that the government’s reaction was simply a parsed response to the mainstream popular one, which is agreement with the system’s modus and intent, an acceptance of Obama’s defense of it and an appalled opprobrium at Snowden’s treasonous behavior.

  2. The_roth

    “Apparently it’s possible to be a US ally and not do the equivalent of sticking one’s fingers in one’s ears and yelling until the subject goes away. The Australian government should take note.”

    But that would mean taking our collective tongues out of the back of the Yanks trousers, as Mark Latham so similarly and elgantly put it a few years ago.

    Seriously Bernard do you really expect anything like independent thought about the US from our so called leaders?
    They are such a pathetic bunch on both sides of the house I expect very little and am pleasantly surprised when any one of them does anything vaguely appropriate.

  3. sabina lokic

    And the ALp wonder why they will get trashed at the next election.
    ALP stand for nothing and are just USA puppydogs.
    Bob Carr’s comments are a joke.

    Maybe if Gillard stood up for once and said to USa its not on she wouldnt be the butt of some many Murdoch/Abbot team jokes.


    While the MSM goes on the usual wild goose chase to track down very detail of Mr Snowden’s life (and that of his family, god help them) Crickey’s Keane has kept his eye on the real story: our big ‘friend’ treats our privacy with contempt, lies to cover this up, and finesses our politicians into just rolling over for them.

    Thanks Bernard, you might despair at just how useless and supine most Australians are, but some are very appreciative of your labours.

  5. Andrew McIntosh

    Of course, because of the worthless and craven colonial mentality our “leader”, and a lot of our population, have. Swapping England for the US as a super-power to look/suck up to, instead of making an effort to become an independent and globally contributing nation.

  6. Venise Alstergren

    The only reason I haven’t reacted to Bob Carr’s statement, is because I’ve always thought that anyone writing in to Crikey would be under surveillance.

    Australians are a servile bunch and our politicians reflect that-so what else is nooo?

  7. David D

    It’s getting harder and harder to defend the mighty US of A…

    Thanks America, says World sarcastically

  8. klewso

    Just lie there – and think of me as your Uncle Sam! This won’t hurt a bit, young man.

  9. klewso

    ….. “Roger the engineer”.

  10. Ronson Dalby

    How do you avoid surveillance these days? Close your social media accounts but then what about your mobile phone, police number plate recognition & motorway cameras, credit card & eftpos purchases, store loyalty cards and so on. Oh, and in NSW as in some other states we now have the Opal public transport card.

    It’s impossible to avoid most, if not all, your moves being recorded somewhere.

  11. zut alors

    When it comes to protecting Australians or their interests Bob Carr is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

    About the only credible remark Carr has made since becoming Minister was during Senate Estimates last week when admitting to neither reading nor writing his own blog. For once I didn’t doubt him.

  12. Dion Giles

    Predictably the media and tame commentariat’s focus shifts from a burst of faux outrage at the securocrat assault on private communication among the people to the standard excuse that the terrorists are the real target and the privacy rights of the people are collateral damage. So the main game is stopping the terrorists and tough bikkie if it means shredding the rights of the people.

    However the same governments (US and satellites) cosset the terrorists’ ideologo-religious base.

    How do they cosset the terrorists? Mass importation of religious haters of democracy and human rights (“Behead those who insult Islam”, “kill Salman Rushdie”, “non-Moslem girls are cats’ meat” etc), support and resourcing of actual terrorists (Libya, Syria, Soviet-era Afghanistan).

    Obligingly, the emboldened terrorists mount attacks like the Boston bombing, the Woolwich murder, the organised rape of non-Moslem women as in UK — building a head of steam for drastic build-up and empowerment of police-state apparatuses like PRISM, ASIO — based on the excuse of the “war on terror”. The target for this pincer movement is the people. Fury has been unleashed on whistle-blowers like Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden not for the very little the terrorists learn from their disclosures but the large amount the securocrats’ enemy learned. That enemy is us, the people, the real target of every police state. Terrorists are mere collateral damage.

  13. Confinda

    “the right to privacy is not absolute — it must be balanced against other important rights and ideals, such as freedom of expression and national security.”

    I would have thought our right to privacy was our freedom of expression. Anyway, nobody is astounded by these comments just more of an air of expectation at these glib sickening responses from our politicians.

    Is Bob ( The Skull ) Carr really alive or is he a zombie?.. can anyone tell me? Does he breathe and have red blood pumping through his heart? What’s his job description? Has anyone actually seen him move? I am very curious.

    Awesome piece Bernard Keane!!! It’s clockwork, as soon as you slam home one of your articles then even the MSM get on board. All the more the better.

  14. AR

    I especially lurved Lindsay Graham’s splenetic claim that revealiong the magnitude of NSA surveillance “..was taking the tools for keeping us safe out of the hands of the american people!” comedy gold, the ameikan people need to spy on themselves… is this the Septics’ version of maoist self criticism?

  15. Buddy

    ‘ Move along folks, nothing to see here …… .. ‘Look a squirrel ‘

  16. FelineCyclist

    “the right to privacy is not absolute — it must be balanced against other important rights and ideals, such as freedom of expression and national security. In Australia, the federal Privacy Act and telecommunications laws recognise this and include a number of exemptions and exceptions for intelligence and law enforcement agencies and their activities.”

    I didn’t read this as a personal opinion, but rather a statement of how privacy is dealt with under current legislation. Privacy is accepted as a right, the content of which is fact and circumstance specific and which must be balanced against other rights and interests. The Commissioner then illustrates the point with one of the interests that is often balanced against privacy (ie national security) and the fact that the Parliament has decided where that balance lies, ie in favour of law enforcement, which is why law enforcement agencies have such a big exemption under the Privacy Act.

  17. deano hall

    Alas we have been in this tangled web of deceit,denial & blatant US propaganda lies since our alliance with post WW2 “Super-America”. It was Australian intelligence that apparently found the aluminium “centrifuge” tubes for Iraqs nuclear program-another one of Bush/Blair/Howard’s weapons of mass concoction- every expert confirmed they were 81mm rocket containers. Pine Gap probably provided CIA(clandestine immoral assholes/americans) with satellite images to dupe the public all over western world & link al-qaeda to Suddam. Meanwhile Aus troops are dying. For what-War on terror?….War on drugs?….War on privacy?…War on free speech?…War on journalism?….War on the TRUTH? New targets- Assange,Wikileaks,Manning,Snowden,Rosen…you…me… a child waving a foreign flag,mother with a camera….

  18. Liamj

    So why did Oz/Gillard give an american obergruppenführer an OA? Anything to do with the rolling of Rudd, eg untraced leak of that embarrassing swearing video. I know, lets ask robot Carr, he’s always good for a gutless orwellian squib of an answer.

  19. paul holland

    Exemptions and exceptions- for whom?
    Sounds like we need to some serious checking here.
    Just hearing those words gives me the shivers.
    Right now it might seem as though having big brother looking over every Australian’s shoulder is okay but just wait till when those with the exemptions and exceptions aren’t satisfied with what they have got.
    Any person who wants to stand up and defend our rights will be in a position where they can be systematically followed, arrested and incarcerated just because they are a threat to the system.
    We need a bill of rights in our Constitution to more clearly state our rights and stop big brother walking all over us as he already is.
    Carr was a monotonous robot premier and is looking more and more like a moron of a Foreign Minister.


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