Dec 18, 2012

No schools crusade, kids just prefer a Christ-less Xmas

The media likes to claim Christmas is under attack in state schools. But Melbourne secondary teacher Chris Fotinopoulos found that most parents and pupils are fine with a Christ-less Christmas. Pop stars and circus routines, anyone?

“Christmas without God is essentially how kids understand Christmas these days. And we’re far more comfortable with [our daughter] participating in Christmas activities without religious education instructors meddling.”


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22 thoughts on “No schools crusade, kids just prefer a Christ-less Xmas

  1. shanghai

    Given that we prefer a ‘Christless Christmas” we obviously don’t wish to continue with the tradition – hence – let’s not screw around and play games.
    Drop Christmas as a holiday, save lots of money, and more importantly, keep business going thru the holiday season and improve productivity.

  2. wilful

    Merry Christmyth everyone. Our boy learnt last week (indirectly, he’s not enrolled in CRE) that candy canes have red stripes on them to symbolise the blood of Jesus. This follows up the earlier claim that easter eggs are hollow to symbolise the cave of the resurrection.

  3. mikeb

    Candy canes = blood of Jesus? That’s a new one for me……and since when do state primary schools teach creationism? Even the nuns at my Catholic school didn’t teach creationism. Maybe 100 yrs ago but certainly not in recent memory. Bring back the nativity plays and all the trimmings I say. No-one is forcing you to participate (& if they do then they should be stopped). Christmas is too much of a $$fest as it is. Next McD or KFC will be sponsoring it – or even worse.

  4. zut alors

    ‘As one of my 15-year-old students put it: “By the time we’ve reached secondary college, we’re totally over classroom Christmas activities.” “Christmas,” another said, “is for little kids.”’

    Fine, in that case presents for little kids only – anybody over 10 years of age enters a No Gift Zone, let’s prune this commercial travesty known as Christmas. Perfect.

    However, one suspects the dismissive 15 year-old will have his/her hand out for something on 25th. The latest i-phone perhaps…

  5. secondsoprano

    Congratulations for entirely missing the point shanghai.

    The secular celebration IS Christmas for most Australians. Sure it used to be a christian festival (for some it still is). Before that, it used to be a pagan festival.

    Now, it’s a time to rest, reflect, spend time with family & friends, stop working, go to the beach, eat a lot, give presents, share a meal, celebrate family, friends and life. Importantly, it’s an opportunity to do that at the same time everyone else is doing it, because despite Thatcher’s dire predictions there is still a thing called society.

    If you are so inclined, you can go to church at Christmas. Most people don’t. So what? The rest of the tradition still has substantial meaning and value. Babies and bathwater spring to mind at this point … that or “bah humbug”. Either way, I think you’re wrong.

  6. secondsoprano

    @mikeb “since when do state primary schools teach creationism?”

    Since we let publicly funded untrained indoctrinators, aka “scripture teachers” and “school chaplains” loose on our unsuspecting progengy.

  7. zut alors

    Candy cane red stripes as the blood of Jesus? Classic!

    Just when you think they can’t concoct any more weirdo stuff (eg: virgin birth) they produce fresh material. In the northern hemisphere snow must symbolise the dandruff of Jesus.

  8. Frank

    Go jingle jangle on a sunny morning

  9. Hugh (Charlie) McColl

    mikeb, if you want a nativity play, or better still a diorama, go to your local McDonalds. Have the fries and little toys with it.

  10. mikeb

    @seconsoprano – evidence that’s what they are doing (teaching creationism) or I call troll.
    @hugh – insulting me doesn’t further your argument. Just shows a lack of imagination or intelligence – troll.

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