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May 14, 2012

Labor state bosses stare down PM on primaries

At least four state Labor branches have junked Julia Gillard's urgings to hold primary preselections before the 2013 federal election, with NSW general secretary Sam Dastyari failing to rule out a series of feared National Executive interventions to protect incumbent MPs.

Andrew Crook — Former <em>Crikey</em> Senior Journalist

Andrew Crook

Former Crikey Senior Journalist

At least four state Labor branches have junked Julia Gillard’s urgings to hold primary preselections before the 2013 federal election, with NSW general secretary Sam Dastyari failing to rule out a series of feared national executive interventions to protect incumbent MPs.

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  1. Peter Ormonde

    Geez… now there’s a surprise … incumbents say no to change!

    Democratic reform for the ALP will not happen from begging the incumbents – nor will it come from below (who cares what the dwindling rank and file actually think?) It’s like that old Irish joke – “Oh no you can’t get there from here”.

    It will only come when there are so few incumbents left that there is no option but to change. Or start afresh without them.

    Obviously from the look of the ALP in NSW the current skeleton crew of MPs and incumbents-in-waiting are still too many. Collapse is not yet complete. How sad. How trashed do they want to leave this once great organisation?

    If Gillard and others seeking reform are serious, they will – at the first opportunity – use the Craig Thomson affair to drive home a few hard lessons about how Labor treats careerists who rat on their party and on their union members. Not that I’d be prejudging the issue at all. Lay their own charges and offer full co-operation with his prosecutors.

    They should restore responsibility and accountability – even if democracy will be some way off. Or somewhere else entirely.

  2. Suzanne Blake

    The Union want people they can control and direct, not grass roots candidates they have no control over. Expect lots of landmines

  3. Jenny Haines

    Is Gillard (or her advisers more like it)mad? In the current context she is only going to get very conservative results from community preselections for Federal seats, not people who are likely to be loyal to her agenda. I’m with Dastyari. Lets see how the current City of Sydney community preselection goes.

  4. Matt

    I was a delegate to the 2011 State Conference which approved the community preselection trial and it was made quite clear at the time that it would only be used in the preselection for the City of Sydney Lord Mayor and 5 state seats and that federal preselections were specifically excluded.

    Hence it being called a “trial”.

    I am commenting on the merits of the proposal (I voted in favour of the trial), rather I submit the assertion that James Carleton “managed to extract a confession” from Sam Dastyari on RN this morning as though it was some shocking revelation is simply not true.

  5. Matt

    Typo: I meant to say “I am not commenting on the merits of the proposal etc.”

  6. Suzanne Blake

    @ Jenny Haines

    Thank you, you have just encapsulated everything that is wrong with the Labor Party

    “Is Gillard (or her advisers more like it)mad? In the current context she is only going to get very conservative results from community preselections for Federal seats, not people who are likely to be loyal to her agenda. I’m with Dastyari. Lets see how the current City of Sydney community preselection goes”

    Typical Green Left view point, do as I say or else

  7. michael crook

    The ALP, like the Liberal party, is incapable of changing from a system of warlord control to a democratic system. It just wont happen, these warlordsd are seriously flawed individuals who follow the Richo, “whatever it takes” mantra. Objectives and policies have no place in their world, the words inclusion and consultation are not in their dictionary. I suggest to the person who wants to get involved in a progressive and sustainable society, that they join the Greens or Socialist Alliance (who do do democracy) or start their own party. It is too late for Labor, they have morphed into Liberals.

  8. Suzanne Blake

    @ michael crook

    You have it the wrong way around

    The Labor nd Liberals are more democratic that the Socialists / Communists / Greens.

    Look at the totalitarian control in USSR, China, East Germany, North Korea etc? Two of which continue today.

  9. GeeWizz

    Craig “Thommo” Thomson shall be gone from the parliament shortly.

    Kathy Jackson, the NSW Government administrators who are going to take over HSU East and the members of the HSU want their money back Mr Thomson.

    I hope your bank account is large and well topped up because you will need the funds to pay your legal fee’s and settlement. A bankrupcy maybe on the cards and that means he can no longer serve in Parliament… unless of course the Red Light on the Hill Labor Party bail him out yet again.

  10. Suzanne Blake

    @ GeeWizz

    It will take over 18 months for that to pan out, so that wont be an election trigger

    Labor have done a great job, dragging this out and pleading for FWA and Police Union go slows

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