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Dec 6, 2010

The Canberra Cables

This will not be end of Kevin Rudd’s starring role in the WikiLeaks Canberra cables, writes Luke Miller.

This will not be the end of Kevin Rudd’s starring role in the WikiLeaks Canberra cables.

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  1. John Bennetts

    Re the heading… “and the first shall be last and the last shall be first”.

    ‘Twould make more sense if written as “Not the LAST time Rudd will feature.”

    It’s not too late to fix the on-line version.

  2. Amber Jamieson

    Thanks John. The heading has been updated on the website. Cheers.

  3. Astro

    Kevin may just have rat f***** himself!!! unwittingly

  4. shepherdmarilyn

    As if the mutterings of Rudd or anyone here mean much – now if only there are some about AWB, David Hicks and so on.

    As for the whining government threatening Assange, a pox on them and Rabbott.

  5. John

    I appreciate the point that Rudd is trying to make.

    However when I contrast that with the secrecy that surrounds most of the actions of all governments and the fact that it is our interests that they are supposedly representing then I am delighted that this material is being made public. In answer to the interviewer’s question I would say that all citizens of the countries discussed in the leaks have profitted because they know what positions their governments have been maintaining in their discussions with the US. They can then compare these with the stated positions and hold their government to account for what they have been saying (and commiting us to) when talking to the Americans. That’s a good thing.

    Three cheers for wikileaks.

  6. SusieQ

    I can appreciate Rudd’s point too, but also concur with John – and lets face it, have we, yet, seen anything we didn’t know or had suspected? Russia is run by the mafia – well, doh!

    As for the posturings and whining of Gillard and McClelland, well, it has been a disgrace – apparently the basic tenet of ‘innocent til proven guilty’ is not applicable to someone who upsets the Americans? Threatening to withdraw his passport? Why? What has he done? Not one country has come up with any charges against Wikileaks yet. As for all this nonsense that lives are at risk – when wikileaks is responsible for killing as many people as have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by the US and its allies (soldiers and civilians included) then there might be a case, but I can’t see it happening, can anyone?

    In the meantime, what is the US government doing about making sure these sorts of communications cannot be downloaded so easily?

  7. Noocat

    What wikileaks can do is make it harder for governments and corporations to cheat, lie, and abuse their power just to protect those who are already rich and powerful. This is why there is such an outrage. These people don’t want to engage in ethical, honest behaviour. But maybe we’re about to see the endgame. If wikileaks or other wikileak-type organisations continue exposing the truth, these people may be forced to think about the consequences of their actions. Maybe they will be less eager to wage wars that destroy millions of people’s lives on the basis of lies. Maybe they will be less inclined to exploit vulnerable people or actually start considering the planet’s wellbeing rather than raping and pillaging the environment for a quick buck.

    This is the ultimate effect of something like wikileaks, not the specifics of what is leaked today, but the fear of what might be exposed tomorrow.

    No wonder governments and corporations are feeling very jittery right now, rushing to paint wikileaks as the evildoer for exposing the truth. And our own government virtually saying that whistleblowing, or telling the truth, is illegal! What twisted, desperate logic!

  8. whoknows

    So ‘stare me down’ Julie Bishop is using the illegal. unverified, illegal WikiLeaks document regarding Rudd and his cable to Hilary Clinton about China to posture to the Gillard Government if in fact the labor Party still holds this position.

    Let’s disown Julian Assange, threaten to remove his passport, agree with the US that he is responsible for placing allied troops and civilians in danger, probably death or worse, but gee can I get some political points using these yet to be proven leaks to throw dirt at the Government…

    It is becoming more and more apparent that the actions of the Australian and US presence in Afghanistan is the greatest threat to life on both sides and all for what? Not really the good of Afghanistan, but more for the few to gain economic gain at the expense of whatever it takes, including lives.

    Both Governments use words like ‘transparency’ ‘open dialogue’, ‘freedom of speech’ – we’re just starting to understand their meaning of these words.

    Hilary Clinton spoke clearly of this: http://tinyurl.com/ydrnzxc

    Bit lengthy, but worth a read.

  9. whoknows

    Just in case you misunderstand my position regarding “yet to be proven documents of Wikieaks” – I support Assange and his crusade to hold governments to their word, but it is interesting that if a government thinks they can get cheap mileage these “unverified”, they will.

    The people are changing faster than their government and it will expose the rubbish soon enough.

  10. Rena Zurawel

    I have a problem with the very term ‘classified information’. Who actually decides whether the info or event is ‘classified’ or not. In which category would Monica Lewinsky affair fall into? What about AWB? Or some foreign no -bid contracts. How does it relate to a ‘transparent’ government? Are there any non-classified guidelines?

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