Nov 8, 2010

Fairfax’s hypocritical web ‘spying devices’ beat-up

"Politicians are letting foreign-owned companies covertly gather information about voters" screamed Fairfax today. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Stilgherrian — Technology writer and broadcaster


Technology writer and broadcaster

“Politicians are letting foreign-owned companies covertly gather information about voters” screeched the  Nicky Phillips “EXCLUSIVE” in Fairfaxland today. “The websites of Barry O’Farrell, Kristina Keneally, Tony Abbott and the Greens plant spying devices on visitors’ computers, which can track them as they browse the internet.”

Pot. Kettle. Black.

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35 thoughts on “Fairfax’s hypocritical web ‘spying devices’ beat-up

  1. Shermozle is Atlas, Microsoft’s advertising network/software.

    PS: IMR Worldwide == Nielsen. You mentioned this when describing Fairfax’s cookies, but not at the bottom of the article when talking about Crikey’s use.

  2. Shermozle

    There is, of course, a story in the privacy implications of all this stuff. For those of us who work in the field, it’s sometimes downright scary how much personal data is sprayed around. (The astute will note I don’t have a Facebook account.)

    But that story is probably a bit complicated for the Smage’s broadloid target audience.

  3. The Pav

    I’m a bit of a computer duffer ( actually a complete Bozo)

    For example on the Crikey Comment section there’s this line “Some HTML is OK”

    I’ve always wondered what ius HTML & why is some OK but since I don’t really care I’ve never bothered to find out.

    I’ve heard of cookies but didn’t realise they were so widespread and sneaky.

    You said you identified 21 cookies from one visit. How did you do this & how do I blow them up on my system or whatever you do to stuff them

  4. Meski

    @Pav: Stopping cookies depends on the browser you use. Some sites you’ll have to allow, if you want to use them (eg net banking), and some browsers will let you ban all sites but those that you set exceptions for. (Chrome for instance[1])

    [1] Well, possibly, I’m using the dev version of Chrome, not sure if this feature is on release. The much handier script blocker for instance, is not.

  5. Stilgherrian

    @Shermozle: Well, I figured mentioning the IMR Worldwide / Nielsen link once was enough, given I was already over length. There is indeed a wider story about the privacy implications of tracking cookies, and of the massively detailed profiles being constructed by the advertising networks. Another tale for another time, perhaps.

    @The Pav: HTML is the “hypertext markup language”, the codes out of which web pages are built. You can use a limited subset of them in the comment form to add formatting, such as the one to make text in italics like this. You’re only allowed to use the ones that won’t have security implications, for example embedding piece of another website or malicious stuff into the comments.

    You can see what cookies you’ve collected in the privacy controls of your web browser. The exact technique difference for each browser, but it’s often under “preferences” and drill down to privacy. You’d be able to delete them there, but they come straight back the next time you visit the website.

    Third-party cookies can be blocked by selecting the right privacy settings. You can get more control using some of the third-party security software. All of the major security software vendors have something that can help, usually sold as privacy protection.

    Alas the details get a bit complicated for here, but whoever you normally turn to for help with computer stuff should be able to help.

  6. The Pav

    Thanks for the info people.

    Much obliged

  7. amy c

    This article is a beat-up itself. Nicky Phillips has previously done a whole feature on cookies in the SMH in which she explained fairfax uses them.

  8. David Sanderson

    I was amazed the SMH ran this as their front page story and bylined it as an “EXCLUSIVE” from their technology reporter. It then continued to say that “BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING”.

    If there is much more of this sort of stuff then readers will have to conclude that the dumbing down of the stately old dame has accelerated alarmingly. It is the sort of thing you might find in the commuter MX throwaway. It is certainly not something you would pay for.

  9. Shermozle

    Amy C, you mean the non-beat up “Inside the cookie monster – trading your online data for profits” where the “number of tracking devices” table conflated all the cookies across the, and ninemsn networks, but Fairfax only got “ No beat up there.

  10. Stilgherrian

    @Amy C: Will you be disclosing in your comments here the fact that you’re Amy Corderoy, a journalist at the Sydney Morning Herald? And where in today’s story was the link to this previous feature? Or do you imagine that readers will search every previous story by a journalist to see if it’ll help them understand the current one?

    Sorry, but criticising someone else for something you do yourself is hypocrisy, no ifs or buts.

    Nice to see you coming to the defence of your fellow employees, though. Even if the excuse is, in my opinion, thoroughly lame.

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