Joe Hockey: But, look, we're getting away from what is, I think, the substance of the debate.
Tony Jones: I'm gonna get there any moment.

Well, Jones never really did get to the substance of the debate while interviewing Joe Hockey last night. Shortly after, when Jones agreed to "go over some of this", that was merely a prelude to asking whether the term "Hockey-nomics" had been damaging to his credibility.

We went through all this during the election, didn't we? The complaints that the media focussed on trivia and personalities and ignored policy substance? We're seeing a perfect repeat with the reaction to Joe Hockey's efforts to put banking regulation onto the political agenda.