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Oct 21, 2010

Adam Bandt's speech on Afghanistan

While Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott were locked in "furious agreement" about Australia's involvement in Afghanistan, independent MP Andrew Wilkie and Greens

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While Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott were locked in “furious agreement” about Australia’s involvement in Afghanistan, independent MP Andrew Wilkie and Greens MP Adam Bandt provided — gasp! — a different opinion, calling for the withdrawal of Australian troops. Here is Bandt’s speech.

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16 thoughts on “Adam Bandt’s speech on Afghanistan

  1. Big Jimmy

    Heartening! Is that the wind of change I can feel?

  2. B.i.g. J.i.m.m.y.

    Hmmm…It’s a good beginning.

  3. richie ben

    I only watched part of this – the part I watched was very impressive. I note that it seems that in both this speech and the Wilkie speech as shown on TV the chamber appeared to be very sparsely populated. It may just be a matter of camera angles or something, but if I am right, the failure to attend and listen to the discussion belies any claim for principle on the part of either party. I suspect some members were watching the speech on the tv in their offices, but in my view that was not really appropriate.

  4. Colin Jacobs

    I look forward to reading about this eloquent speech in the Oz. “Won’t somebody save us from the lunatic Green fringe and their insane frothing!”

  5. Elan

    You did well son, you did well.

  6. Wobbly

    It makes me extremely proud to have supported the Greens for the last 9 years, running street stalls, marching with the green triangle placard, letterboxing, door knocking and campaigning in other way to finally hear my opinion and that of a million other Australians represented so elequently in our House.

    Thank you Adam for your great speech. I hope in years to come your speech will be regarded as a watershed for our parliament, our politics and ultimately a landmark moment that demonstrates the growing up of Australia.

  7. ninetenthsofthelaw

    Anyone got a link to Wilkie’s speech?

  8. nicolino

    Both Wilkie and Bandt have spoken eloquently on what the majority of Australians want and yet our elected political leaders don’t listen and we are not about to eat cake.
    Surely if we want respect we should speak our minds to the Americans and if they consider us as friends they shouldn’t be averse to some friendly advice. Mind you I doubt they would listen to anyone outside of the U.S. such is their arrogance.

  9. joanjett

    Greens all the way, yay!

  10. joanjett

    Sorry that was childish I know but I couldn’t help it. Makes me so happy to have joined a party with a conscience and a heart (and a brain).

  11. Greg Angelo

    As a strong campaigneragainst Australia’s intervention in Vietnam 45 years ago, I can only applaud Adam Bandt’s speech for its sincerity and clear logic. The Karzai government is a corrupt clique of self-interested criminals who are bleeding the country dry in transferring billions of dollars of US aid money to safe jurisdictions in relation to the eventual collapse of their corrupt empire.

    However I must disagree with Adam concerning the Taliban. Their ruthless suppression of any institution providing any support to women, be it schools or hospitals is absolutely appalling and to withdraw will be to abandon these poor women to appalling mistreatment and subjugation. Reform however must come from within and cannot be imposed. If the Afghan people want freedom they must fight for it themselves, and if they are unable, unwilling or incapable to do so then their children must suffer their fate.

    Accordingly we should establish a facilities for the freedom fighters who will fight the Taliban fundamentalists on their own terms. Because our troops are seen correctly as an occupation force, allied with a corrupt governing clique, they can do little or nothing other than to defend themselves. Provision of civil aid without a stable government is a futile waste of time.

    It has been ably demonstrated that fundamentalism will maintain iron grip on a society until enough of its members are prepared to fight for their own liberation. By any account we are failing in this process with the current strategy. And it is this failure of strategy that should dictate a withdrawal, in recognition that there is no alternative other than self-actualisation by the Afghan people.

  12. Greg Angelo

    As a further comment those with long memories will remember a detestable politician named Howard Holt who coined the absolutely appalling phrase “All the Way with LBJ”in committing Australian conscripts to theVietnam war. In that situation Holt’s tongue was firmly planted in Lyndon Baines Johnson’s fundamental orifice and Julia Gillard is an able successor concerning her grovelling undertaking to commit thousands of Australian troops to the risk of death and injury for the next 10 years for no other reason to stay to the right of Tony Abbott in a disgusting display of unbecoming wedge politics. Perhaps if she had conceived and bore a child she would be far less cavalierin her commitment of other women’s children to the risk of death of injury for political purposes.

  13. CHRISTOPHER DUNNE

    yeah, we all hate war, but the grim reality is that the majority of Afghans think life is better without the Taliban, and want democracy and rights for women, and if it’s tough for us to stay, it will be infinitely tougher on millions if we just walk away.

    No easy choices, and Bandt gives no indication other than ‘bring them safely home’ of how this can be done in practice without leaving a huge vacuum for the Islamic fascists to occupy. You know, gruesome public executions of men and women, vicious repressions of minorities, and harsher treatment of women than the domestic Sharia laws that we Westerners find repugnant.

    Look, if this was easy it would have been solved, but it’s incredibly c0mplex and the regional implications of just walking away could make the current war look like a picnic by comparison, so be careful what you wish for, as the saying goes.

    Noble sentiments, delivered to an empty chamber with no hope of being implemented politically, give cheer to two lots of people: those who just want to think we will be doing ‘good’ by leaving, and the Taliban, who are fighting to the death to make us cede the country to them.

  14. Elan

    “However I must disagree with Adam concerning the Taliban. Their ruthless suppression of any institution providing any support to women, be it schools or hospitals is absolutely appalling and to withdraw will be to abandon these poor women to appalling mistreatment and subjugation. Reform however must come from within and cannot be imposed. If the Afghan people want freedom they must fight for it themselves, and if they are unable, unwilling or incapable to do so then their children must suffer their fate. “

    I’ve indicated elsewhere my links with Afghanistan; not withstanding that I sadly have to agree with the second part of your comment GA.

    “yeah, we all hate war, but the grim reality is that the majority of Afghans think life is better without the Taliban, and want democracy and rights for women, and if it’s tough for us to stay, it will be infinitely tougher on millions if we just walk away.”

    Regrettably CD, this is true,-regrettably because it is now Hobsons Choice. The Muja are no longer the good guys. They are exploiters of the poor-and the culture of ‘pleasure boys’ is Muja not Tali.

    Muja and Tali; ALL now see the West as invaders…..; except for those who benefit from their presence…

    The flicker of light at the end of this particular ugly tunnel is people like Wilkie and Bandt. Wilkie in particular knows how ‘the system’ works.

    We HAVE to stop invading other countries for the most spurious of reasons-including the ‘Simon says’ attitude Australia has to the US.

  15. Meski

    Videos, bah. Got a link to a transcript? Life’s too short to sit through a politician spoon feeding text at the comprehension rate of the dumbest listener.

  16. Elan

    Who are you calling a dumbest listener??

    I went the full 18.9, because a politician finally said something worth listening to.

    No kidding. I spent the time because what he said held my attention.

    How sad is it that we can’t find 18 minutes? (I understand what you’re saying Meski, because I thought ‘awww 18 minutes..nah!’).

    18 minutes in a lifetime? What has happened to us all?

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