Environment

Sep 2, 2010

The dirty topic of peak oil: get ready to reduce your reliance

Wouldn’t it be funny if we spent so long arguing about what to do about climate change that we ran out of cheap oil first? It is not beyond the realms of possibility, writes Dr David Ingles.

Wouldn’t it be funny if we spent so long arguing about what to do about climate change that we ran out of cheap oil first? No, it wouldn’t really, it would be catastrophic.

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9 thoughts on “The dirty topic of peak oil: get ready to reduce your reliance

  1. Alex H

    An interesting take on the relationship between peak oil policy and climate policy. But as I understand it, more greenhouse gas is produced by coal power stations and coal use isn’t predicted to peak until well after oil.

    So while policy to minimise the impact of peak oil on the economy may curtail the use of oil which will reduce greenhouse gas emissions, I suspect that the reduction won’t be significant in light of the ongoing emissions from coal.

    Of course, a general price on carbon covering all fossil fuels as you suggest above would help in both areas. The question is, would governments legislate a general carbon tax on all fossil fuels if they were only motivated by peak oil? Unlikely, they would probably just focus on policies specific to oil, such as excise.

  2. Roger Clifton

    Technically there is no problem. If we consider “hydrocarbons” instead of “oil”, a whole raft of solutions appear.

    In particular, if we separately source carbon and hydrogen, the peak vanishes and resources become effectively limitless.

    Carbon can be supplied from bitumen, tar shales, coal, biomass, limestone or even atmospheric CO2, depending on the carbon tax. Hydrogen can be supplied electrolytically from sun, wind, hydro, and nuclear.

    However, changing the culture of the oil industry is likely to be a lot harder than changing the pipework in their refineries.

  3. lindsayb

    Various credible organisations have advised the UK government to plan for oil at >$200 per barrel by 2015, and rising steadily from there. Advice also included statements about civil unrest, as transport and food become much more expensive. This is at at time when many in the western world are up to their eyeballs in debt due to the housing/bailout bubble, and governments have gone into massive debt to bail out the bad actors that caused it.
    Our collective governments’ massive spending on road infrastructure might start to look foolish and short-sighted quite soon, and their decades-long policies of designing cities around car use could lead to more social problems too. That said, bicycles are cheap and effective for mass-transit.
    However, the biggest problem with our oil dependence is that it is integral to our food production and distribution, and this at a time where the world needs to increase its food supply by 50% over the next 40 years. The Greens have started taking this seriously (only party so far), but with climate change, peak oil and population growth, we really need to have a look at how and what we are farming if we are not going to have serious problems with famine inside the next decade or two. The problems can be solved, but not by continuing to do the same things we have been doing for the past 50 years.

  4. wbddrss

    In regard to:
    “The extraction of oil from tar sands, for example, or its processing from coal and natural gas generates enormous amounts of greenhouse gasses. This poses a potential dilemma for policy, but the answer is actually quite simple — a price on carbon.”

    I do not fully appreciate the connection between price on carbon & consequences of peak oil. I would like the author to reassess the above informative discussion in the light of:

    1) Repercussions of running an ETS in shadow of Global Financial Crisis where there is still much negativity to those financial intangible assets which nobody understands except lawyers & courts only after period of implementation;
    2) It takes energy to create infrastructure, new energy sources & energy itself. This makes energy ratio critical for the future. Hydrocarbons have excellent energy ratios, all others do not.
    3) there is hypothesised a net energy cliff which if the energy ratio on average for an economy falls below there is serious ramifications for all the economy which just treads water and then there are no solutions to peak oil at all;
    4) Greens with all their vision fail to appreciate there is an absolute skill shortage across the face of the earth and new projects conjoined with appropriate risk management need skills in the general population to implement the desired solutions.

    In conclusion I fail to see how a price of carbon can mitigate by itself the above conditions which are more akin to scientific laws ( 2nd law of thermodynamics), principles & values & worldviews ( family values, structure & function in society in general). I now hint that with above systemic problems, global warming when conjoined with peak oil may be more difficult to mitigate with a price of carbon alone.

    By the way there is an alternative point of view that we are all going to be saved by horizontal drilling with simultaneous fracturing of rocks releasing hydrocarbons from oil shale etc. I am skeptical of this being a solution as well.

  5. Flower

    Wouldn’t it be funny if we spent so long arguing about what to do about climate change that our desecrated ecosystems collapsed first? No, it wouldn’t really, it would be catastrophic.

    Well there’s an ecosystem near you which is laden with industrial fallout – hydrocarbons, organochlorine pesticides, nutrients, heavy metals etc etc. There’s an ecosystem near you where biodiversity is threatened by industrial pollution ie. soils, rivers, oceans and air – salinity, mass fish mortalities, mass bird mortalities and mass mortalities of terrestrial critters (millions of them annually) – all in an island dubbed ‘down under.’

    Will it soon be every nation for itself while the greed barons continue bludging off the environment with impunity?

  6. jeebus

    If there was ever a reason to accelerate the transition to natural gas and hybrid electric cars, this is it. With our reserves of gas, abundance of sun, coal, wind, and uranium, we are an energy super power.

    Should be a relatively painless transition for Australia if our government is smart enough to act on the issue now.

  7. Roger Clifton

    @jeebus: “we are an energy super power”…

    Imagine a nuclear powered refinery at Gladstone, converting coal to light oil. Just as today Gladstone exports coal, it could be exporting transport fuel as well. If ever the export of coal is stopped, a livelihood for the people of the town and hinterland would be maintained. They may even welcome the honourable transition.

    If ever the extraction of coal in Queensland is stopped, the same hinterland could be producing biomass to feed the same refinery.

  8. Termoil

    @Roger Clifton

    The neo-classical economic assumption of infinite substitutability is a completely falwed way to approach peak oil. Firstly, The light sweet crude that we have hitherto planned our economies around is high quality and low cost in energy, engineering and effort terms. In terms of Gross World Product spent extracting oil, it is currently negligble but after peak oil, this becomes a much higher percentage and will continue to rise. Already the marginal cost to produce a new barrel of oil is $65-80 which is why the price of oil has rebounded so quickly after the GFC that is still clobbering economies around the world.

    I would expect that your plan to build a nuclear coal-to liquids facility wopuld require a much higher marginal cost of oil to be economic before anyone is going to committ the kind of capital needed if you can get it at all in this environment. The bio-mass idea is just plain ignorance of the process involved.

    At any rate alternatives need to scale up at a similar rate of oil decline plus growth demand which is a huge engineering project for which the world does not have the capital or human skills to do. We have spent the last thirty years producing lawyers and business graduates who have no idea of the basic laws of physics but ahve been mesmerised into believing the religion of endless growth economics and do not have the capacity to consider an alternaitve view.

  9. Roger Clifton

    As @Termoil implies, transport fuel would have to be one heck of a lot more expensive before we can replace traditional oil feedstocks with processes such as nuclear coal-to-liquids. That is the job of the carbon tax, so that they compete on the basis of their (fossil) carbon efficiency.

    In chemical terms, it is actually a simpler process to hydrogenate biomass than to hydrogenate coal. In terms of virtue, it would release even less fossil CO2 in the atmosphere. However the scale of transport fuels required is probably greater than the capacity of the land to fix carbon as biomass. That is, as well as food and fibre.

    What is absurd is the idea of today’s oil industry tolerating the idea of replacing oil as a source of energy with nuclear. We fear, and obey.

    Pres Eisenhower tried to warn his public about the excessive power of another industry. Pres Obama could speak similarly of the oil industry.

    Ref: http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=old&doc=90

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