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Jul 8, 2010

Asylum seekers mathematics

The footage of the latest boatload of people to chug through our waters is currently on loop on Sky News. Images of our Prime Minister parading around on a patrol boat dominate the front pages today.

The footage of the latest boatload of people to chug through our waters is currently on loop on Sky News. Images of our prime minister parading around on a patrol boat dominate the front pages today.

Here’s a breakdown of the media mentions of boat people/asylum seekers since Monday across print, television and radio (care of Media Monitors):

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Lay those huge numbers against this neat graphic (care of Tim Bennett at Electron Soup):

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You could be forgiven for thinking the importance the prime minister is placing on this issue vastly outweighs the lonely little orange person on this chart.

There is one set of numbers we haven’t considered yet. That’d be the Labor government’s internal polling. We’re guessing that’s the maths that really explains all the fuss over this lone stick figure.

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  1. Scott

    This diagram understates the level of migration.
    If you check out the population flow statistics from the Department of immigrations report, you actually find that Net permanent migration makes up 64.6% of new Australians. Natural increase makes up 35.6% of new arrivals…very different to what is illistrated above. http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/statistics/popflows2008-09/pop-flows-appendix.pdf

  2. EngineeringReality

    I don’t like salmon coloured stick figures – gotta stop them getting in!!!!

    I don’t care how much money is spent – how many rights are trampled – just stop them before they get here!!!!

  3. shepherdmarilyn

    But do the media monitors ever tell us what the people are saying because no matter where I listen it is mostly to mock Gillard and Abbott.

  4. Malcolm

    Paint it how you like, its queue pushing, and its not fair to those who wait their turn.
    Surely we don’t believe they get in a boat in Sri lanka or Afghanistan and paddle here.
    I am astounded at the high percentage this portrays.

  5. Nearlythere

    Scott: perhaps the difference in the figures relates to the categories being used. The immigration department figures are for what it calls Net Overseas Migration (NOM) which it defines as: “a measure of the net addition (or loss) to Australia’s resident population from migration. NOM is net permanent and long-term overseas migration plus an adjustment for changes in travel intentions.”

    I suspect that Mr Bennett’s “Net Permanent Migration” figure is calculated on a different basis.

    I could be wrong, but!

  6. shepherdmarilyn

    There is no queue. God some people are deranged. Where is this queue and how come Australia is the only place in the world who knows about it.

    Jesus weeping people drive me frigging nuts.

    The only queue is in Canberra because that is the only place anyone can claim asylum in Australia.

    People cannot claim asylum here from any other country.

    An asylum seeker is the only person who has legal rights to come here, refugees already assessed in other countries have no such right.

    What frigging part of that is too difficult to understand?

  7. Meski

    @Scott: But you’re probably missing the point of the graph, which is to show that boat people make up a tiny percentage of our population increase. Even using your figures, it’s still tiny.

    @Malcolm: If you want to queue jump, it’s far easier to get on a plane, and just ignore the visa time limit. You avoid the whole messy ‘Pacific Solution'[1] camps that way.

    [1] What were they thinking to use such a negatively loaded phrase as ‘Pacific Solution’ connected with camps that they put people in?

  8. Informed Voter

    @Scott: Your figure is NOT Net Permanent Migration, your 64.6% (should read 64.4%) refers to Net Overseas Migration (which includes short-term migration) in Appendix A in your link.

    Tim Bennett’s graph uses Net Permanent Migration in Appendix B, equivalent to 77,000 people (as you will find his Net figure adds to).

    Please get your statistics correct first before blithely trying to denigrate other’s conclusions!

  9. Informed Voter

    Actually Net Overseas Migration includes long-term migration and permanent, not short-term… Checking my own facts!

  10. BarryR

    I’m not sure whether the migration figures include the emigration. This is from: http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/05emigration.htm#i
    A total of 81 018 people left Australia permanently in 2008-09.

    About 100 years ago, my grandparents had to make a decision: walk away from home or die.
    In 50 years time, someone will make the Afghanistan version of “Fiddler on the Roof”. The audience will cry and wonder why no one helped the people who are fleeing from their homes.
    No one likes to be forced to run away from their home. Would you?

    BarryR

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