Jun 30, 2009

Refugees, asylum seekers and Australia: some cold hard facts

There is no full solution to asylum seekers, short of world peace and an end to poverty globally. But the least we could do is stop pretending we can just block them all out.

The website of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) contains all the statistical data anyone could want on refugees, asylum seekers, returned refugees, internally displaced and stateless people around the world.


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14 thoughts on “Refugees, asylum seekers and Australia: some cold hard facts

  1. Jenny Morris

    Bravo, Andrew. An excellent piece.
    The media has a significant responsibility to put the recent arrivals in some context, to inform, rather than spread panic. If the government won’t lead on this, the media has to.
    Your article is an excellent start.

  2. pedro

    What a defeatist article by Bartlett, showing us all how the Democrats went the way of the dodo.

    With more time I would happily debunk those myths which he has written (no doubt for the sole purpose of enhancing his own ego in his own mind). If Bartlett wanted to really do some work, he may have pointed out that the real solution to illegal immigrants did not lie in an open-shore policy, but in finding solutions in the homelands of those illegals.

    What a great privelege Bartlett must enjoy to be able to write populist article espousing populists policies, without ever having the responsibility of having to implement it.

    In the mean time he gets all the plaudits and pats on the back from fellow minor party aspirants, those who one day hope to fill that role of minor party vacuum.

    They know they will never have to do any work except be the left wing populist voice of infinite youthful anarchy. Thank god the democrats are now extinct.

    The true

  3. Daniel Ashdown

    Interesting article, Andrew. Thanks for the read.

  4. regteren

    Populism: type of politics that claim to represent the interest of ordinairy people [source: Oxford Dictonary]

    Now, Pedro, tell me which parties and policies really are the populist ones..

  5. pedro

    Regteren, you learned to look up a word. Quick, world leaders – take note, you are debating a 16 year old and he is armed with a dictionary!

  6. Frank v R

    Pedro, I sincerly think someone needed to explain to you what populism means..

    Who’s the 16 year old in this case?

  7. Pamela

    Thankyou Andrew- a whiff of common sense instead of POPULIST scare mongering.

    Is it not time we grew up in this country and realised that we are all here because of people movements for all sorts of reasons.

    We have to move on from an infantile STOP THE BOATS policy to considering how to respect both the human rights of the asylum seekers and our own interests.

    We can do both.

    Warehousing people in Indonesia is both immoral and storing up trouble for the future.

    Give them a break and process their claims fairly and then resettle them here to join the Australian family.

  8. Andrew Bartlett

    You should try arming yourself with a dictionary, Pedro – it might stop you using words when you clearly don’t understand what they mean.

    Apart from obviously not knowing what ‘populist’ means, you also incorrectly use the term ‘illegals’ to describe people who are not.

    You’re understand of the ‘myth’ is obviously faulty, seeing all I have done is outlined (and linked to) many well-established and documented facts, and given some assessments of what this means.

    You also clearly don’t know what an ‘open-shore policy’ is, seeing I haven’t advocated anything of the sort.

    Presumably you are also not aware that I have often had the responsibility of having to make decisions which have influenced the implementation of immigration policy. Some of these decisions are difficult, because this is often an area with no easy answers (although you seem to think you have them).

    Finding solutions in the homelands of displaced people so they are able to return safely is always the best option whenever it is possible. But as I said, unless we can deliver world peace and an end to poverty, then there will be many times when such an option is not possible. If you are saying you have the solutions to bring about world peace and end to poverty (or even just one of them), I’m sure everyone would love to hear them.

  9. coreena

    I’d like that Australia take refugees but, as an ignoramus, I do wonder why so many Muslims want to come here. I’d love to see more women & children taken from the sex trade in SE Asia & be able to settle here. The Vietnamese fitted in well because they are mainly Buddhist so religion was never an issue. Many Vietnamese were also christian from its years as a French colony. As an atheist I think all religions have the potential to create divisiveness. The Muslim school in Sydney is the most recent example. Sure there are Catholic schools but they’re Christian so fit into Australia’s judeo-christian history. There is a real fear of Muslim men in our society & it’s because of the Taliban & the gang rapists in Sydney. The white Australia policy & Australia’s geography put it out of reach of post-WW2 refugees but we’re close to Asia & easier for refugees to reach. I just wish I knew why so many are Muslim men.

  10. Jillian Blackall

    Left wing populism definitely does exist. Sydney’s Lord Mayor Clover Moore comes to mind.

    However, I do agree with Andrew that a change in this area is needed.

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