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Aug 21, 2014

Why Australians can fight for the IDF, but not the Islamic State: ASIO chief explains

ASIO boss David Irvine has tried to explain how and why Australians join foreign armies, and allay concerns about the Coalition's proposed anti-terrorism laws. But given its murky past, ASIO's reassurances should be taken with a grain of salt, writes freelance journalist Andrea Glioti

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  1. David Vaile

    Essential reading, recent serious and competent explanation of metadata, reveals source of the confusion:

    Geoff Huston APNIC chief scientist
    What is Metadata, and Why Should I Care?
    http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2013-05/cgns.html
    http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2014-08/metadata.html (the Queen and metadata)

    TL;DR: Even basic online identification by your Internet source IP address now technically and unavoidably requires your destination IP too, 33,000 times per user per day. There is no longer a distinction collecting between basic source IP and logging every site and element you touch, even if “browser history” is not intended.

    Carrier-Grade NAT (CGN) is how mobile Internet survives after IP address exhaustion in 2011. CGN shares your public IP with many other people at once, changing constantly, so the envelope analogy is dead: you share the envelope 1,000 times per hour with lots of other people, so even just to identify you once, your ISP needs to all log those 1,000 destination IPs you each touch per hour, down to the millisecond. 17,000,000 bytes per day each person (where your address on an envelope might take 800). 425 Terabytes per day for a big ISP, fills a new 1T disk every 3 minutes.

    This also apparently negates the misleading claim that destinations are content, and need a warrant. You are your destination, under CGN.

  2. GideonPolya

    Australian Intelligence has an appalling record of disservice to Australia in the interests of nuclear terrorist foreign powers like the US, UK and Apartheid Israel (see Gideon Polya, “50 ways Australian Intelligence spies on Australia and the World for UK , Israeli and US State Terrorism”, Countercurrents, 11 December 2013: http://www.countercurrents.org/polya111213.htm ) and is being disingenuous about Australian Israelis being able to serve with the war criminal IDF because such Australian Israeli traitors and war criminals are also complicit in war crimes against AUSTRALIANS as set out the comment below that was submitted by me in response to a Guardian article about the Australian anti-terror laws and CENSORED by The Guardian Australia which has an appalling record, like other Western Mainstream media, of censorship of views critical of US state terrorism and of nuclear terrorist, serial war criminal, democracy-by-genocide, genocidally racist Zionist-run Apartheid Israel (see “Censorship by The Guardian Australia” : https://sites.google.com/site/mainstreammediacensorship/home/censorship-by-the-guardian-a ).

    START CENSORED COMMENT. “The proposed new anti-terror laws of the pro-war, pro-Zionist, US lackey, human rights-abusing Coalition should be opposed because they are unfairly aimed at Muslims, ignore the massive threat of state terrorism to Australia and the world, and:
    (1) include the dangerous Orwellian absurdity of the need for Australians to prove that they are not terrorism supporters (from a philosophy perspective, it is usually very difficult and sometimes impossible to prove a negative e.g. “that Tony Abbott is not an alien from outer space”);
    (2) are clearly aimed at Australian Africans, Asians, Arabs and Muslims (unacceptable community-wide defamation, racism and bigotry);
    (3) grossly invade Australian privacy;
    (4) totally ignore the serious problem of US state terrorism, UK state terrorism, French state terrorism , Israeli state terrorism and indeed Australian state terrorism linked to 12 million Muslim deaths from violence or war-imposed deprivation since 1990 and over 20 million Muslim refugees in the Zionist-backed US War on Muslims (Google “Muslim Holocaust Muslim Genocide”) versus 2,000 Westerners killed by Muslim-origin non-state terrorists in the last half century (this ignoring 2,000 Zionist invaders killed in Palestine and 3,000 killed in the 9-11 atrocity that almost certainly involved the US Government; Google “Experts: US did 9-11”);
    (5) totally ignores non-Muslim Australians fighting for and committing war crimes and indeed war crimes against Australians for foreign states, notably Apartheid Israel that has tasered, bombed, shot, shelled, mangled, killed, kidnapped, tortured, falsely imprisoned and robbed Australians and their relatives as well as doing large-scale forging of Australian passports and subversion of Australian MPs, media and institutions (for a detailed and documented dossier sent to Australian MPs, media and the AFP Google “Racist Zionism and Israeli State Terrorism threats to Australia and Humanity” ).
    Decent, sensible, informed, patriotic Australians with a prime loyalty to Australia and no others will reject the lying terror hysteria of the pro-war, pro-Zionist, US lackey, state-terrorism-supporting Coalition, vote 1 Green and put the Coalition last.” END CENSORED COMMENT.

    For details and documentation of the above see “Experts: US did 9-11”: https://sites.google.com/site/expertsusdid911/ and “Racist Zionism and Israeli State Terrorism threats to Australia and Humanity” : https://sites.google.com/site/palestiniangenocide/racist-zionism-and-israeli .

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