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Gillard supporters rewarded, public servants shuffled

Julia Gillard has announced a ministerial reshuffle that rewards her supporters and makes some significant machinery-of-government change in Canberra.

The key changes are:

This is a mixed reshuffle. There is sense in ending the indulgence of having Regional Development as a separate portfolio and returning it to the Transport portfolio, and in moving Climate Change into Combet’s portfolio now that its core work of developing and implementing a carbon pricing scheme is completed. The resources sector, too, will be delighted to have replaced one industry spruiker, Martin Ferguson, with another, and the promotion of Leigh will lift the frontbench’s average IQ.

But the Arts sub-portfolio continues its peripatetic history; the combination of Higher Education and Trade for Craig Emerson — what used to be two full-time ministerial jobs — is bizarre and the shameless promotion of pro-Gillard powerbroker Don Farrell illustrates this is ultimately about ensuring those who did the right thing by the Prime Minister last week are rewarded.

Meanwhile, in Rudd, Bowen, Carr, Ferguson, Crean and Ed Husic, Labor will take one of its most talented-ever backbenches to the coming election.

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  1. Jan McLucas, a truly nice person, now gets to shepherd the NDIS, which she worked on with Bill Shorten.

    by C@tmomma on Mar 25, 2013 at 1:19 pm

  2. Bernard, Gillard is not shuffling cards, she has reassigned deck chairs on the Titanic. Lets face it, the ship is going down. Nothing can and will save it. Humphrey B Bear with a blindfold could beat Labor

    by Suzanne Blake on Mar 25, 2013 at 1:29 pm

  3. Talented maybe, but also treacherous, and without a doubt a major reason why caucus is dysfunctional and policy prosecution and implementation woeful.

    by michael in melbourne on Mar 25, 2013 at 1:30 pm

  4. Where’s Conroy going - creator of such memorable events as “Senator Fielding” and “Media Reformation”?
    ……… He is going isn’t he?

    by klewso on Mar 25, 2013 at 1:31 pm

  5. Well, at least promoting Gary Gray should appease the business mining lobby and thereby muffle predictable whinges that JG has “rewarded” loyalists to some extent.

    The angle of the story here and in the MSM should have been that JG was forced to clear the decks after another abortive toxic Rudd coup attempt and that she had made the best appointments she could have made with the deck she was given.

    It wasn’t as if she hadnt had a history of appointing Rudd or his supporters to the highest levels of government,despite Rudd’s leaking sabotage of the Government in 2010.

    If I was in her shoes, I would have scorched earthed the toxicity of this man and his supporters from the get-go straight after the election and saved myself a whole lot of paranoia and trouble with cabinet leakings and the like. In the end JG proved to be too nice.

    by Karen on Mar 25, 2013 at 2:06 pm

  6. Such a relief to know exactly how the deckchairs are being arranged on the Titanic.

    by Andybob on Mar 25, 2013 at 2:09 pm

  7. I wouldn’t have let Crean and Ferguson go….

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm

  8. She’s basically sacked all her critics, and surrounded herself with “Yes Men”. The Victorian Right must be rubbing their hands with glee at how things are turning out.

    Gillard has probably put off leadership speculation for another month, at best… but at what cost to the Federal Party? The “brain drain” of senior talent has continued. There has been such a loss of top-shelf talent in cabinet since 2010.

    With the polling headed in only one direction as long as Gillard is in charge, the only questions are: how long until the next challenge, who will it come from, and how many seats can Labor salvage at the election?

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm

  9. Klewso: it is truly unbelievable that Conroy remains in the position he’s in, despite multiple demonstrations of his lack of ministerial talent.

    by littlemaths on Mar 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm

  10. I’m over all this leadership debate.

    I want to see a discussion around policies and see the costings of those policies.

    If Abbott wins the election purely on the rant of “Labor bad - Liberal good” without Abbott showing the substance of his policies then democracy would have been down an injustice

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 2:52 pm

  11. @littlemaths

    Do you have any idea of Conroy’s position in Victoria’s Labor Unity? He and Shorten basically run the faction.

    There is no way he is ever getting replaced.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm

  12. @Achmed

    Julia Gillard is so disliked personally, that there can’t be any sort of sensible debate about policy during the campaign. Voters have an instinctive, visceral reaction against her whenever she appears.

    Come the campaign proper, she will need to keep a low-profile for Labor to have any chance of keeping a decent rump of seats. Abbott will, of course, keep to his current small target strategy as well.

    It has all the makings of a “stealth” election, where neither of the leaders is popular enough to win by force of personality. In fact, both are so unpopular that they could lose by being in public too frequently.

    The battle will almost certainly be fought via negative advertising, low-key media appearances, and trying to pick holes in policy announcements. As a result, both parties will try to keep their policies as substance-free as possible. Substance is much easier to attack than hot air.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 3:12 pm

  13. Gary Gray, ex alp national secretary, is the worst possible choice to replace the fawning martin ferguson, as he is associated with one of the mining mafia famiglia. There will be no let up in the destructive mining juggernaut if he has anything to do with, and, as an aside, they certainly wont be paying tax anytime soon.

    by michael crook on Mar 25, 2013 at 3:33 pm

  14. The Liberal state Govts of Queensland and Victoria have not had a good time of it.
    Quensland - 3 x Ministers sacked. 3 x MP’s defected to the Katter Party. Ministers under investigation.
    Victoria - 2 x Premiers 3 x Chief Ministers MP’s under investigation 1 x MP became an Independent

    Then there’s the CLP in NT - mmmm stab leader in the back while overseas

    And in WA the Liberals support a bra snapping chair sniffer as Treasurer and MP’s under investigation

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 3:39 pm

  15. MC - So Gary Gray will be doing stuff that the Liberals would support???

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm

  16. The PM has not lost ALP talent to the back bench!
    These people most certainly have proven by past behaviour the they are quislings working with the MSM/LNP feed of rubbish, to mislead the public perception of an effective government.
    The ALP Gillard government has proven, costed, effective policy in place. We Australians Have benefitted by these policies since 2007. Some policies have had their problems with implementation. Media Reform for one. I personally believe that some of those bills were always to be a no go zone, hence the Media baron’s kicking the kimbies around the sandpit, using fear and intimidation to ensure this was the case. We may well wish ALL our politician’s could show the same courage as PM Gillard and not to caved to the blackmail of the would be emperors of Australia, deciding public policy for all of the people. All hail the Murdoch, Reinhardt, Forrest, Palmer and LNP/MSM dictatorship.
    There is a concerted attack on Democracy, human rights and decency and the Rule of Law
    Media censorship already exists: the censor is a blanket ban on truth, fair and fearless reporting policed by the owners of the MSM.

    by GF50 on Mar 25, 2013 at 3:54 pm

  17. Beakie — you always manage to stretch the facts to suit your outcome. The only “negative” move you list is Don Farrell’s but you conclude that “illustrates this is ultimately about ensuring those who did the right thing by the Prime Minister last week are rewarded.”

    by Mark from Melbourne on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:09 pm

  18. Gillard thinks that the ALP is a dictatorship.

    And Karen, Rudd did not spill anything. He told Crean in no uncertain terms that he was not standing. So Crean talked to Bowen and Kim Carr who were also told by Rudd to shut up because he was not interested.

    Why do morons blame the man for keeping his word? Do you want liars and immoral clowns in power?

    Rudd was one of the only ones with any honour last week, Patricia Large confirmed that on the World today and the Drum last Friday.

    by shepherdmarilyn on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:13 pm

  19. AJH: sadly, these facts have not escaped my attention.

    by littlemaths on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm

  20. Hear! Hear! GF50.

    by C@tmomma on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:21 pm

  21. @GF50

    Gillard has been poll-driven and inconsistent from the start. She’s had no clear narrative. Her politics are tactics-driven, to the detriment of long-term political strategy.

    She just chooses a target demographic each week, and makes announcements to appease them. There is no need for any coherent strategy, and it’s immaterial if the claims she is making are true (witness the shambles around the grossly inaccurate 457 visa nonsense).

    The main achievement of her Government has been to continue with Rudd’s policies. It’s like a caretaker administration with a case of ADHD.

    The real problem is that she’s losing her grasp of tactics, as witnessed by the media reform push. It never had a chance of getting off the ground.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:31 pm

  22. AJH - there was no 457 nonsence except that which was perpetuated by Abbott and the media.

    Stating that there will be a review to ensure that the 457 visas are not being abused or misued is in fact a function of Govt.

    It is not racist or ant-foreigner as Abbott and the media deceptively stated. The review was about the companies/employers applying for jobs to be given 457 status, not an attack on the workers on 457 visas.

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:39 pm

  23. AJH - Poll driven - how would describe one line rants like “turn the boats back” without any substantial policy if not as just simply popularist?
    Or the “repeal the carbon tax” without mentioning the Abbott plan to give taxpayer money to the polluters would be about the polls and not policy substance.
    There will be no new taxes under a Govt I lead - then announce a 2% business tax increase to pay for maternity leave. Remembering Abbott had said of maternity leave when a Minister under Howard - ‘over this governments dead body” - the backflip is about polls and popularist policy

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm

  24. I recall Julia Gillard saying she was “spoilt for choice” in her cabinet reshuffle…hmm

    by Em_E on Mar 25, 2013 at 4:52 pm

  25. AJH No facts! to support what you say. Yes they did implement policy ALP policy that former PM Rudd could not get around to.
    Policy has not been poll driven at all, Carbon price, that really caused a rise in the polls, NDIS, economy AAA, No point in going on with policy success that have no traction in the ridicule/mock/demean/hate/get Gillard LNP/MSM/ABC You obviously are not able to distinguish fact from fiction. Policy direction generalisations are urr umed, on the run by LOTO/LNP dirt unit. No “tactic” is able to get through for the above reasons.

    by GF50 on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:11 pm

  26. @Achmed

    Abbott is appalling, but that doesn’t make Gillard good.

    The Liberals have a reason for sticking with Abbott. He’s winning. On the other hand, Gillard hasn’t been ahead since the 2010 election, and she didn’t really “win” that one either.

    I may well vote for Gillard over Abbott, but I’m sure as hell not getting involved with the campaign this year. How are we meant to convince voters that Gillard is the right choice when most Labor members don’t actually believe in her themselves?

    She’s not quite as bad as Abbott” doesn’t make a great campaign slogan.

    Meanwhile, Abbott can keep making up fairytales, and nobody will call him on them, because Gillard has started doing the same anyway.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:13 pm

  27. @GF50

    No facts? There were no facts in the 457 visa announcement. The claims that the IT industry is the top abuser the system were nonsensical. We’re snapping up every qualified graduate we can find, and still can’t find enough, here or overseas. Nobody who has a decent qualification is being overlooked for a job.

    Meanwhile, the IT industry is well down on the list of industries using 457 visas anyway.

    I haven’t seen any evidence of the system being abused by other industries either. In fact, it’s the very model of a well-implemented, well-functioning immigration programme.

    The whole “crackdown” was another poll-driven announcement, targeted at Western Sydney, but with absolutely no factual basis at all.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:18 pm

  28. AJH - I agree that both are atrocious.

    I will not “defend” Labor but I will raise issue with Abbott’s policies.

    I suggest reading the Liberal manifesto - “Real Solutions for all Australians” and note the conflicting information.

    Remove the “income” of the carbon price - Reduce taxes to business and taxpayers and fund the $3billion+ Direct Action, increase business tax by 2%, support NDIS, keep asking Labor where they will get the money - where will Abbott get it?

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:31 pm

  29. @Achmed

    Abbott can’t deliver on most of his “policies”. He will just offer promises before the election, then when he gets in, say: “Oh, look, the finances are worse than we thought. Labor’s mismanagement means we can’t do anything we said we would”.

    He knows that, we all know that, but most people don’t care at this stage. The antipathy towards Gillard in regional Australia and Western Sydney is so strong that it will be the overriding thing on voters’ minds.

    The media has been doing an astonishingly good hatchet job on her, to the point that she’s seen as a pantomime villain now (“boo, she got Kevin”, “boo, she increased our electricity bills”). She’s helped them in that task by offering up no alternative narrative.

    Meanwhile, in the business world, she has made no friends. Nobody can stand her shambolic approach to policy development, her demonisation of “big business”, her “us vs them” old-school Labor attacks on wealth creators, and her nonsense on 457 visas.

    That doesn’t leave much of a support base.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:44 pm

  30. poll-driven announcement”, “no factual basis” - these are the tactics writ large across the opposition front bench. The most disappointing aspect of Gillard’s 457 beat up was that she lowered herself to Abbott’s standard. Just as well I LIKE HER SOOOO MUCH, I may just forgive her.

    by mikehilliard on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:52 pm

  31. If you listen to Abbott and Hockey they would have people believe that Australia is an economic basket case like Greece, Italy etc.
    But we aren’t. Australia is recognised as one of the strongest economies in the world. Investors are flocking to Australia and it is that investment that is pushing our dollar so high.
    We are one of few countries that have a Triple A credit rating from all three agencies.
    Low unemployment at 5.4%, inflation around 2%, consistent economic growth of around 3%, low official interest rates and over 70,000 jobs created in the early months of 2013. One of the lowest GDP to debt ratios in the developed world, around 7% - Italy is 100%, Greece 105% and USA and UK are 70%

    But you can’t read this stuff in the right wing dominated media

    by Achmed on Mar 25, 2013 at 5:53 pm

  32. These new appointments look very rushed. Did they play a game of spin the bottle? (after shoving the talent off into the naughty corner). And I can’t believe the Minister for red underpants is still playing.
    There now seems to be a skills shortage within the party, perhaps Gillard should reconsider her opposition to 457 visa’s.

    by Clarke Steve on Mar 25, 2013 at 6:26 pm

  33. Most may not know of positive policy to the tune of twelve reforms legislated while the ALP Government was in chaos and dysfunctional during that week. Dare anyone to find these among the confected “white noise” of the LNP/MSM/ABC PM Gillard hate pages.
    AJH: 457 are a temporary work visa, a review looking at the veracity of the of the conditions under which they are issued, was already happening. No policy made on the run in the vain hope of fair and factual reporting for a lift in polls As I previously stated you have a great deal of trouble sorting fantasy from fact.

    by GF50 on Mar 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm

  34. Crean could try out for comedy. He now says he was sent a text by Rudd but didn’t read it so that is Rudd’s fault.

    by shepherdmarilyn on Mar 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm

  35. @GF50:

    Yes, 457 visas are used for attracting talent from overseas to Australian companies. I use them all the time. Many employees I’ve had come here on 457 visas end up staying, and transitioning to PR. Since last year, that is very easy to do, and is basically automatic after two years.

    There are reviews of the scheme all the time. The last one brought in the easier transition to PR. I don’t believe any systemic issues have been found in the scheme in recent reviews. In fact the last review was glowing in its praise for how the system was being used by industry. That’s why it was surprising that it suddenly became an issue while Gillard was in Western Sydney. The scapegoating of the IT industry in particular had no basis in fact.

    by AJH on Mar 25, 2013 at 6:52 pm

  36. Meanwhile, in Rudd, Bowen, Carr, Ferguson, Crean and Ed Husic, Labor will take one of its most talented-ever backbenches to the coming election.”

    Really Bernard! Is that Martin Ferguson you are including there, or did Laurie do the jump as well. Using Martin Ferguson and talent must have nearly broken the keyboard.

    Damn, now mine is smoking.

    Rudd is a bum, so is Carr, and sadly, Crean is well past it.

    Let’s face it, there wasn’t a lot of talent there to lose. Bowen is the only loss.

    Unless you compare them with the Coalition, in which case you have the riches of King Tut’s tomb there. :-)

    by Dogs breakfast on Mar 25, 2013 at 8:51 pm

  37. To those who are still supporting Gillard, I hate to say I told you so!
    Newspoll just out: Coalition 58% 2PP, Labor 42% 2PP.
    Primary vote: Coalition 50%, Labor 30%
    Preferred PM: Abbott 43%, Gillard 35%
    Worst figures for Labor in 12 months. Thanks to the present PM and the gutless wonders who support her.

    @ Karen #4 - You might think that Rudd is “toxic”, and all the other names you called him. From the numbers quoted above, it is easy to see who is the real cause of Labor’s problems. And around 53% of the population agree with me that Rudd should be the PM (Poll taken last Friday). Pity those dead beats remaining in the caucus are such gutless wonders. Gary Gray, Minister for Resources? Give me a break! He should be in the Liberal Party, not pretending to represent those who vote Labor. And the remaining appointments are just as bad. September 14 is going to be a blood-bath that many of us will not forget, Julia.

    by CML on Mar 25, 2013 at 11:44 pm

  38. Gillard said a good government had lost its way under Rudd. Since taking over she’s steered a course straight down the crapper. What an absolutely pathetic woman. Her father surely did die of shame. She should do us all a favour and do likewise.

    by Patriot on Mar 26, 2013 at 1:34 am

  39. @CML - read my post at number #5 - I refer to ‘toxic’ Rudd - no other descriptor used. You don’t call his persistent efforts at leaking and spilling as toxic? However, if you want me to spell it out, I think the man’s behaviour is even more than toxic, its psychopathic. He, by his actions, is bent on revenge over his thwarted ambitions and blow to ego by Gillard. The behaviour of a typical passive aggressive narcissist. He couldn’t work with people, unnecessarily inconvenienced his senior bureaucrats who were forced to wait for hours to see this petty mandarin, and micromanaged his ministers over portfolios he was interested in, like foreign affairs.

    As someone who was close to advisors who worked under Rudd both in opposition and in government, Rudd was described as a ‘cold fish’ who kicked down, sucked up and ran government like a facs*st bunker. People hated his guts, right down to the advisors who worked for other ministers. If it weren’t for Rudds leakings in 2010, Gillard would have won the election easily instead of by a minority government.

    And Marilyn, the issue isn’t clear cut about who said what when. Crean admits a text was sent by Rudd but Rudd had his supporters holed up in his office all day crunching numbers, and then when Crean spoke to him just before the ballot, Crean said Rudd never once intimated that he wasn’t running. “It was never part of the discussion”, says Crean. A whole lot of road kill now, once again, associated with the little mandarin.

    by Karen on Mar 26, 2013 at 8:34 am

  40. @ Patriot - the only person who should die of shame is you.

    JG has achieved more social policy outcomes in her short tern in office than any other bloke before her. So what are you talking about?

    True, her electoral fortunes have faltered, thanks largely to a combination of hostile press and those appalling Rudd acolytes who have been gleefully feeding them. Talented ministers on the back bench, like Carr, Bowen, the architect of the punitive fasc*st asylum policy that is in breach of every international law and international human rights convention you care to think of? Geezus Xrist!

    by Karen on Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 am

  41. Labor staffers eat your hats. You come here crying about a biased right wing media yet on Media Watch last night it was reported that you have all the parliamentary TV channels tuned not to ABC News 24 but to the good ol mainstream Sky News. Hypocrisy or self masochism?

    by Savonrepus on Mar 26, 2013 at 9:59 am

  42. Karen, You are correct and the headlines still the say Government turmoil/chaos/ dysfunctional. That is belied by the facts 12x bills legislated in the “chaos” of last week, but you waste your time, you cannot debate the issue of obvious, irrational cognitive dissonance, with demonstrative facts. Therein lies the huge problem.
    ALP should, of course, appoint ministers, positive policy on the “warm and fuzzy” advice of the LNP/MSM/ABC who have only the “best” interests of Australia and ALP at heart. Demonstrated by the LOTO’s stunning, heartfelt, sincere apology to the shattered victims of forced adoption.

    by GF50 on Mar 26, 2013 at 10:20 am

  43. @Savonrepus - yeah, when you’re talking about 70% of media controlled by one media magnate who hates Gillard’s guts because he thinks she’s a pinko who stands to affect his interests as a result of NBN, cross media ownership rules, and now a proposed independent regulator as amounting to right wing bias against her, I think I’m right on the money. What’s the relevannce of parliamentary staffers tuning into ABC 24 with respect to this particular issue? Pap.

    by Karen on Mar 26, 2013 at 10:24 am

  44. Savonrepus: Masochism is by definition, of the self,
    So much for the rest of your irrational post.

    by GF50 on Mar 26, 2013 at 10:27 am

  45. Karen the relevance is this. In my house the person in government controls the remote. Clearly in parliament house the remote is tuned to the Main Stream Media as opposed to ABC News 24. This destroys all credibility to the argument so often put here that MSM is biased against Labor. If that is the case why haven’t they changed the channel?

    by Savonrepus on Mar 26, 2013 at 10:34 am

  46. @ Karen - As I have said elsewhere, Rudd has always denied that he leaked anything, so where is your PROOF! Every news report I have ever read describes Rudd’s leaks as “alleged”, or similar wording.
    I believe that currently the Labor Party is being controlled by the unrepresentative unions. As Nathan Reece , former Labor Premier of NSW),said on “The Drum” program last night (ABC TV), unions today have about 18% workforce membership, yet they have 50% of the voting power in the ALP. He appeared to be saying that their power should reflect their numbers. At the same time, the rank and file membership have virtually NO say. No wonder the membership numbers have gone down the toilet!
    People like Rudd, and others, have always wanted to equalize the power within the ALP. Because of this, the union heavies want to destroy Rudd at all cost. You have been sucked in by this disgraceful campaign, as have many others. If you can’t see that the unions are controlling Gillard, and keeping her in power, then you don’t know much about politics. Why do you think the older and wiser heads (Kelty, Crean, Ferguson, et al) have all said that Gillard and her minions must stop this divisive class warfare nonsense?
    I find it interesting that people like you, who continually try to destroy Rudd, only make him more popular. That tells me that most of the electorate are either not listening to the union line, or simply don’t believe you. It is inevitable that the Labor Party will have to restructure to survive, so you and others are not helping anyone with your anti-Rudd tirades. I have been associated with the Labor Party for around 60 years, but even I can’t stand to see what is happening to this once great party. Gillard is complicit in its destruction, and I will vote informal for the first time in my life, rather than assist her to do this.

    by CML on Mar 26, 2013 at 10:46 am

  47. GF50 thanks for the lesson on tautology but it is a long bow to extend it to rationality . Labor has a popularity problem and until it starts addressing the hypocrisies that contribute to that nothing is going to change. I am sure you could apply your language skills more productively to the cause.

    by Savonrepus on Mar 26, 2013 at 11:02 am

  48. Karen,

    JG has achieved more social policy outcomes in her short tern in office than any other bloke before her.”

    Arguably in this country, but her body of “social policy outcomes” is no match for those of Mao or Stalin. Tell me, why do you use such a metric to evaluate her success as a political leader?

    by Patriot on Mar 26, 2013 at 11:33 am

  49. Savonrepus;
    It is of little value to change channels when we experience the highest concentration of media ownership and proprietorial bias in the english speaking wrold and the alternative publicly owned media editorially clones them

    CML:
    The union influence on party policy through the TH and ACTU has been evident since the planting of the ‘tree of knowledge’, many decades ago.
    Considering where we are today, and the political and economic directions that the conservative forces have endeavoured to take us, their countervailing infliuence have served us well.

    Karen;
    Well said. 4/10

    by Mike Flanagan on Mar 26, 2013 at 11:39 am

  50. Was it The (other/original) Godfather”? “Keep your friends close - and keep your enemies closer!”?
    Why we spy on other(s) countries - “Forewarned is forearmed”?
    There’s no accounting for taste - and I suppose it’s always useful to know what your enemies are saying about you or “making you out” to sell/portray you as?

    It is interesting why more of us aren’t quoting Holmes more often? Jonathan - not Sherlock.
    Personally I admit to finding his reasoning on some matters a little more than bewildering.
    Take for instance his arguing of the correctness of their adjudication of “ABC impartiality” and it’s devotion to even handedness - when it comes to the handling of the Faine/Smith affair (“Smith the tabloid shock-jock - with their sort of substandards - using ABC standards to get even with Faine, for having the temerity to have called him what he is/was - being paid to do”?) - written and enforced in it’s code. Not like the limp lettuce laughs that are pissed off by msm as their PSP’s and “missionary statements”. How important that is, while the likes of Jones, Monckton and the rest of “Climate Change Deniers Club” circus aren’t given more time to give us the benefit of their expertise on their “special subject”?
    Then again, I may be speaking too early? Maybe they’ll be on one of their science shows? Maybe even, is it, “Katter-list(?)”?

    by klewso on Mar 26, 2013 at 12:30 pm

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