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	<title>Comments on: How your taxes bailed out insolvent timber giant Gunns</title>
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		<title>By: Edward James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunns might have been trading insolvent when it took $23 million from the federal government for its non-existent pulp mill, Are you serious Mr John Lawrence ? Why is it this has not blown up in our Federal Parliament? Are our elected representatives so tiny minded issues like this make no never mind to them? Edward James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunns might have been trading insolvent when it took $23 million from the federal government for its non-existent pulp mill, Are you serious Mr John Lawrence ? Why is it this has not blown up in our Federal Parliament? Are our elected representatives so tiny minded issues like this make no never mind to them? Edward James</p>
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		<title>By: MJPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, as with so many corporate failures the losses are only counted in the dollars lost, not the environmental degradation that goes hand in hand with poor management decisions.
The only think to be thankful in this whole debacle was no pulp mill was created to destroy the environment its operations would have seen. Of course if the LNP get in who knows what examples of environmental bastardry will entail.
Do we ever learn though...the CSG wells are the future pulp mills and who is counting the future costs of destruction of groundwater?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, as with so many corporate failures the losses are only counted in the dollars lost, not the environmental degradation that goes hand in hand with poor management decisions.<br />
The only think to be thankful in this whole debacle was no pulp mill was created to destroy the environment its operations would have seen. Of course if the LNP get in who knows what examples of environmental bastardry will entail.<br />
Do we ever learn though&#8230;the CSG wells are the future pulp mills and who is counting the future costs of destruction of groundwater?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing will ever pay back the sheer industrial destruction of the landscape for near-worthless euk plantations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing will ever pay back the sheer industrial destruction of the landscape for near-worthless euk plantations.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithee</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/03/05/how-your-taxes-bailed-out-insolvent-timber-giant-gunns/comment-page-1/#comment-239708</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cronyism and institutionalised corruption is so entrenched in Tasmania that some of the paricpants don&#039;t even realise they&#039;re part of the stench. There is not a single politician or top public service figure that I trust to either tell the truth or not be so leaned upon that they are scared to tell the truth. The pond down here is too small.

Change must come from without.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cronyism and institutionalised corruption is so entrenched in Tasmania that some of the paricpants don&#8217;t even realise they&#8217;re part of the stench. There is not a single politician or top public service figure that I trust to either tell the truth or not be so leaned upon that they are scared to tell the truth. The pond down here is too small.</p>
<p>Change must come from without.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Baxter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/03/05/how-your-taxes-bailed-out-insolvent-timber-giant-gunns/comment-page-1/#comment-239662</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed Gavin Moodie. It is well to remember that Gunns was been backed to the hilt by successive Federal and State Governments, including with millions in taxpayers&#039; funds. Those who authorised those payments should now account for them. And of course, Gunns&#039; liquidation also demands tough questions of those who oversaw its fall from power (sadly a case study in corporate governance failure). Particularly given the legal concerns raised by the administrator, now liquidator (eg possible insolvent trading), tbc.... tombaxter.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Gavin Moodie. It is well to remember that Gunns was been backed to the hilt by successive Federal and State Governments, including with millions in taxpayers&#8217; funds. Those who authorised those payments should now account for them. And of course, Gunns&#8217; liquidation also demands tough questions of those who oversaw its fall from power (sadly a case study in corporate governance failure). Particularly given the legal concerns raised by the administrator, now liquidator (eg possible insolvent trading), tbc&#8230;. tombaxter.org</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Moodie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/03/05/how-your-taxes-bailed-out-insolvent-timber-giant-gunns/comment-page-1/#comment-239642</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Moodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Howard Government lost a lot of credibility by making irresponsible promises in its last year.  I hope the Gillard Government doesn&#039;t sully its record by following Howard&#039;s example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Howard Government lost a lot of credibility by making irresponsible promises in its last year.  I hope the Gillard Government doesn&#8217;t sully its record by following Howard&#8217;s example.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo Gainsbourg</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/03/05/how-your-taxes-bailed-out-insolvent-timber-giant-gunns/comment-page-1/#comment-239638</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo Gainsbourg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a radical idea...why doesn&#039;t the tassie government just privatise Gunns and the timber industry?  Problem solved.  No more public money gravy for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a radical idea&#8230;why doesn&#8217;t the tassie government just privatise Gunns and the timber industry?  Problem solved.  No more public money gravy for them.</p>
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