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	<title>Comments on: Rise Up to &#8216;keep Australia Australian&#8217; (unless you&#8217;re mentally ill)</title>
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		<title>By: kathy heyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy heyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is section 93, Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918, as amended. It defines the disenfranchised.
Clause (a) only
A person who:
(a) by reason of being of unsound mind, is incapable of understanding the nature and significance of enrolment and voting.

The mentally ill were constitutionally disenfranchised on Federation, 1902. So were the intellectually impaired. People with physical disability can&#039;t access the polling booths and the visually impaired are stuck with assisted voting.

As blunt and ugly as Rise Up Australia&#039;s voting restrictions is, it&#039;s entirely Constitutional.

I can remember a referendum asking the Australian people to vote for changes. They said no. Pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is section 93, Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918, as amended. It defines the disenfranchised.<br />
Clause (a) only<br />
A person who:<br />
(a) by reason of being of unsound mind, is incapable of understanding the nature and significance of enrolment and voting.</p>
<p>The mentally ill were constitutionally disenfranchised on Federation, 1902. So were the intellectually impaired. People with physical disability can&#8217;t access the polling booths and the visually impaired are stuck with assisted voting.</p>
<p>As blunt and ugly as Rise Up Australia&#8217;s voting restrictions is, it&#8217;s entirely Constitutional.</p>
<p>I can remember a referendum asking the Australian people to vote for changes. They said no. Pity.</p>
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		<title>By: dailyfloss</title>
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		<dc:creator>dailyfloss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t seem to find on his Catch the Fire Ministries website  the 2007 prophesy which was emailed prior to the 2007 election predicting Howard&#039;s win. Funny that. Being a young earth creationist I&#039;m sure he&#039;s familiar with the Old Testament punishment for false prophets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t seem to find on his Catch the Fire Ministries website  the 2007 prophesy which was emailed prior to the 2007 election predicting Howard&#8217;s win. Funny that. Being a young earth creationist I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s familiar with the Old Testament punishment for false prophets.</p>
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		<title>By: mattsui</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238645</link>
		<dc:creator>mattsui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we can’t..... say no to abortions and then come out with abortions.”
Talk about coming out with an abortion! This is not the statement of a politically aware person. Clearly the whole thing is a front or put on of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>we can’t&#8230;.. say no to abortions and then come out with abortions.”<br />
Talk about coming out with an abortion! This is not the statement of a politically aware person. Clearly the whole thing is a front or put on of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve777</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238621</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One suggestion for ALP advertising this election year if the group seems to gain traction: make an ad to remind would-be voters of his comments regarding the Black Saturday fires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One suggestion for ALP advertising this election year if the group seems to gain traction: make an ad to remind would-be voters of his comments regarding the Black Saturday fires.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve777</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238620</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might this be an &#039;astroturf&#039; group? Is there anyone else behind it? Does someone like &quot;Lord&quot; Monckton show up to the launch of a fringe group like this appears to be at first glance? The group seems to have a lot in common with the Tea Party in the US, sponsored by the billionaire Koch brothers. Its aims also seem to be very much in line with what our local plutocrats would like to see. Is the purpose of this group to &#039;harvest&#039; the votes of blue collar works who traditionally vote Labor but who would be attracted to a Christian fundamentalist, socially conservative and anti-multicultural agenda and direct them to the Coalition, especially to give them a bigger chance at winning additional Senate seats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might this be an &#8216;astroturf&#8217; group? Is there anyone else behind it? Does someone like &#8220;Lord&#8221; Monckton show up to the launch of a fringe group like this appears to be at first glance? The group seems to have a lot in common with the Tea Party in the US, sponsored by the billionaire Koch brothers. Its aims also seem to be very much in line with what our local plutocrats would like to see. Is the purpose of this group to &#8216;harvest&#8217; the votes of blue collar works who traditionally vote Labor but who would be attracted to a Christian fundamentalist, socially conservative and anti-multicultural agenda and direct them to the Coalition, especially to give them a bigger chance at winning additional Senate seats?</p>
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		<title>By: Andybob</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238500</link>
		<dc:creator>Andybob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No mention of Galipolli or mateship then  ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of Galipolli or mateship then  ?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh (Charlie) McColl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh (Charlie) McColl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like every other Australian political party, the executive will do with it whatever they like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like every other Australian political party, the executive will do with it whatever they like.</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Lardyland</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238455</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Lardyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since their leader, Danny Nalliah, has claimed to have resurrected the dead, surely he is of unsound mind, and therefore, should be unable to vote in his own party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since their leader, Danny Nalliah, has claimed to have resurrected the dead, surely he is of unsound mind, and therefore, should be unable to vote in his own party.</p>
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		<title>By: Holden Back</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238445</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 05:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Recalcitrant Rick - they&#039;re not excluded from the party, they&#039;re just not allowed to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Recalcitrant Rick - they&#8217;re not excluded from the party, they&#8217;re just not allowed to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Recalcitrant.Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238442</link>
		<dc:creator>Recalcitrant.Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 05:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man is a con artist, not satisfied with making money from religion, he&#039;s moved on to politics. As to not allowing the mentally ill into the party??? The leader himself thinks that natural catastrophes are caused by &quot;sin&quot; so surely he should be excluded? I&#039;d vote for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man is a con artist, not satisfied with making money from religion, he&#8217;s moved on to politics. As to not allowing the mentally ill into the party??? The leader himself thinks that natural catastrophes are caused by &#8220;sin&#8221; so surely he should be excluded? I&#8217;d vote for that!</p>
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		<title>By: Holden Back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holden Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hence the single quotes around &#039;charismatic&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hence the single quotes around &#8216;charismatic&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ianjohnno</title>
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		<dc:creator>ianjohnno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 05:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking in tongues simply meant being able to evangelize in other languages. American-style nitwits go all googly and start jabbering incoherent noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking in tongues simply meant being able to evangelize in other languages. American-style nitwits go all googly and start jabbering incoherent noise.</p>
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		<title>By: klewso</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238415</link>
		<dc:creator>klewso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 04:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Talking in tongues&quot; - is that like when God whispers in your ear and no one else can hear him? It tickles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Talking in tongues&#8221; - is that like when God whispers in your ear and no one else can hear him? It tickles.</p>
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		<title>By: Holden Back</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238405</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 04:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, do other political parties have similar provisions?  Maybe they should.

It is an interesting acceptance of the attraction of certain kinds of &#039;charismatic&#039; Christian sects which encourage talking in tongues and communing directly with god for people with serious treat-it-with-drugs mental illness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, do other political parties have similar provisions?  Maybe they should.</p>
<p>It is an interesting acceptance of the attraction of certain kinds of &#8216;charismatic&#8217; Christian sects which encourage talking in tongues and communing directly with god for people with serious treat-it-with-drugs mental illness.</p>
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		<title>By: klewso</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/20/rise-up-to-keep-australia-australian-unless-youre-mentally-ill/comment-page-1/#comment-238395</link>
		<dc:creator>klewso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unsound mind&quot;? There&#039;s an interesting future?
Where&#039;s my brown shirt....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Unsound mind&#8221;? There&#8217;s an interesting future?<br />
Where&#8217;s my brown shirt&#8230;.?</p>
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