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	<title>Comments on: News Ltd paywall rethink: Courier-Mail flags metered model</title>
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		<title>By: klewso</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236898</link>
		<dc:creator>klewso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fagan has a couple of good journos working for him - they&#039;ve retained binocular vision and can be as critical of one side as the other - his &quot;balance&quot;. 
But the lumpy majority in  his &quot;undies&quot; are no more than conservative political time-share salespeople. Who can see no wrong in conservative politics - because to see that and draw punter attention to it, in print, could have a negative affect on voter perception of their ability to govern better than Labor/the Left.

As for Murdoch FWISM (free-marketeer - when it suits Murdoch) - champion of &quot;market forces&quot; - he wants a two party state/political system - where he can play one side off against the other for his media PR favour, fun and profit - without having to face the greater electorate (it&#039;s easier when you own &quot;the system&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fagan has a couple of good journos working for him - they&#8217;ve retained binocular vision and can be as critical of one side as the other - his &#8220;balance&#8221;.<br />
But the lumpy majority in  his &#8220;undies&#8221; are no more than conservative political time-share salespeople. Who can see no wrong in conservative politics - because to see that and draw punter attention to it, in print, could have a negative affect on voter perception of their ability to govern better than Labor/the Left.</p>
<p>As for Murdoch FWISM (free-marketeer - when it suits Murdoch) - champion of &#8220;market forces&#8221; - he wants a two party state/political system - where he can play one side off against the other for his media PR favour, fun and profit - without having to face the greater electorate (it&#8217;s easier when you own &#8220;the system&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: klewso</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236720</link>
		<dc:creator>klewso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again how could they have any respect for a government that expects a company (managing/editting most of the news that we get to see, like they do), to abide by and adhere to a voluntary set of standards for self-regulation, like PCP&#039;s and other mission statements, like those they hide their partisan political activism behind? Howard didn&#039;t - he was in on their joke - and benefited from their sort of positive conservative PR - so&#039;s Abbott.
No wonder they see Labor/Gillard as a giggle and object for public derision?
A speed-bump to their sort of unelected governance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again how could they have any respect for a government that expects a company (managing/editting most of the news that we get to see, like they do), to abide by and adhere to a voluntary set of standards for self-regulation, like PCP&#8217;s and other mission statements, like those they hide their partisan political activism behind? Howard didn&#8217;t - he was in on their joke - and benefited from their sort of positive conservative PR - so&#8217;s Abbott.<br />
No wonder they see Labor/Gillard as a giggle and object for public derision?<br />
A speed-bump to their sort of unelected governance.</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Lardyland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Electric Lardyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, be fair, klewso.  News Ltd must be still suffering greatly, from the withdrawal of all those taxpayers dollars, that the Howard government used to shower on them for &#039;advertising&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, be fair, klewso.  News Ltd must be still suffering greatly, from the withdrawal of all those taxpayers dollars, that the Howard government used to shower on them for &#8216;advertising&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Lardyland</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236699</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Lardyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paying to read an online edition of a Murdoch tabloid?  Hmmm. I think I&#039;d rather attack my scrotum with a cheese grater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying to read an online edition of a Murdoch tabloid?  Hmmm. I think I&#8217;d rather attack my scrotum with a cheese grater.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve777</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236694</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the role of &quot;News Producer&quot; already existed at News Limited tabloids, charged with making stuff up to further the proprietor&#039;s agenda. Like this story for instance:

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/how-the-carbon-tax-rebate-is-going-up-in-smoke/story-e6freuy9-1226429497098</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the role of &#8220;News Producer&#8221; already existed at News Limited tabloids, charged with making stuff up to further the proprietor&#8217;s agenda. Like this story for instance:</p>
<p><a href="http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/how-the-carbon-tax-rebate-is-going-up-in-smoke/story-e6freuy9-1226429497098" rel="nofollow">http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/how-the-carbon-tax-rebate-is-going-up-in-smoke/story-e6freuy9-1226429497098</a></p>
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		<title>By: zut alors</title>
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		<dc:creator>zut alors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it was a reverse paywall - and Murdoch paid us to read it- I wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it was a reverse paywall - and Murdoch paid us to read it- I wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hilliger</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236689</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hilliger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would I subscribe to a sh*tty Noos Ltd product?  Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would I subscribe to a sh*tty Noos Ltd product?  Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hilliger</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236687</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hilliger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fagan also launched a &quot;big spray&quot; at the Gillard government, saying it has been the worst ever for the media industry.  Let me guess - the carbon tax!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fagan also launched a &#8220;big spray&#8221; at the Gillard government, saying it has been the worst ever for the media industry.  Let me guess - the carbon tax!</p>
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		<title>By: Andybob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andybob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paying to read The Australian is about as attractive as subscribing to Bob Katter&#039;s newsletter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying to read The Australian is about as attractive as subscribing to Bob Katter&#8217;s newsletter.</p>
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		<title>By: klewso</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236678</link>
		<dc:creator>klewso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it&#039;s the worst government for the media industry :- 
they won&#039;t get out of their way and let Limited News run the country and them do whatever they want. And they won&#039;t take advice from a company owned by a foreigner - with it&#039;s/their &quot;idiosynchratic&quot; shares : voting power policy - telling them how to run our democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it&#8217;s the worst government for the media industry :-<br />
they won&#8217;t get out of their way and let Limited News run the country and them do whatever they want. And they won&#8217;t take advice from a company owned by a foreigner - with it&#8217;s/their &#8220;idiosynchratic&#8221; shares : voting power policy - telling them how to run our democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: klewso</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/06/news-ltd-paywall-rethink-courier-mail-flags-metered-model/comment-page-1/#comment-236676</link>
		<dc:creator>klewso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s Fagan/that &quot;spokesman&quot; on - and which planet, as well? He&#039;s only got one eye? 
Otherwise, you can&#039;t blame him for not reading his own viewspaper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s Fagan/that &#8220;spokesman&#8221; on - and which planet, as well? He&#8217;s only got one eye?<br />
Otherwise, you can&#8217;t blame him for not reading his own viewspaper?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 05:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is remarkable that these companies have such little faith in their products. Given the evident sanctity with which they hold to the value of journalism it is somewhat surprising that none of them seem to think that anyone will pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is remarkable that these companies have such little faith in their products. Given the evident sanctity with which they hold to the value of journalism it is somewhat surprising that none of them seem to think that anyone will pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: paddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really looking forward to the AFR ditching it&#039;s paywall. 
I won&#039;t even abuse the privilege. 
I&#039;ll only read the articles by Laura Tingle....Promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really looking forward to the AFR ditching it&#8217;s paywall.<br />
I won&#8217;t even abuse the privilege.<br />
I&#8217;ll only read the articles by Laura Tingle&#8230;.Promise.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve777</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 01:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He was emphasising the importance of accurate reporting and journalistic professionalism. &quot;

I nearly choked on my sandwich. Since when did accurate reporting and journalistic professionalism ever have any role in the Murdoch tabloids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>He was emphasising the importance of accurate reporting and journalistic professionalism. &#8220;</p>
<p>I nearly choked on my sandwich. Since when did accurate reporting and journalistic professionalism ever have any role in the Murdoch tabloids.</p>
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