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	<title>Comments on: Stubbed out: why Australia is alone on cigarette plain packs</title>
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		<title>By: alistairj</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/30/stubbed-out-why-australia-is-alone-on-cigarette-plain-packs/comment-page-1/#comment-236432</link>
		<dc:creator>alistairj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wassamatta RH? Cat got your little troll tongue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wassamatta RH? Cat got your little troll tongue?</p>
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		<title>By: alistairj</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistairj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 22:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr Anders for your informative and perceptive comments (on the other blog)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr Anders for your informative and perceptive comments (on the other blog)</p>
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		<title>By: John Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone interested in the twisted, 400+ year history of antismoking, refer to my comments at:
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/theurbanist/2013/02/02/should-smoking-in-the-streets-be-banned/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested in the twisted, 400+ year history of antismoking, refer to my comments at:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/theurbanist/2013/02/02/should-smoking-in-the-streets-be-banned/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.crikey.com.au/theurbanist/2013/02/02/should-smoking-in-the-streets-be-banned/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Anders</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/30/stubbed-out-why-australia-is-alone-on-cigarette-plain-packs/comment-page-1/#comment-236243</link>
		<dc:creator>John Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rhwombat

Just interested. Could you tell us what nonsmokers die of; what you will die of? Do nonsmokers die “wonderful” deaths attended by a choir singing their praises for never having smoked. Or, maybe they don’t die at all, ever, as some antismokers seem to believe. Please inform us.

rhwombat, you are obviously not familiar with the idea of karma. You should be very careful of what you think is due to others. You might end up inviting it for yourself.</description>
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<p>Just interested. Could you tell us what nonsmokers die of; what you will die of? Do nonsmokers die “wonderful” deaths attended by a choir singing their praises for never having smoked. Or, maybe they don’t die at all, ever, as some antismokers seem to believe. Please inform us.</p>
<p>rhwombat, you are obviously not familiar with the idea of karma. You should be very careful of what you think is due to others. You might end up inviting it for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: rhwombat</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhwombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep looking at the pictures of your future, you pathetic prat. Let me know when you start coughing blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep looking at the pictures of your future, you pathetic prat. Let me know when you start coughing blood.</p>
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		<title>By: alistairj</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistairj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RHwombat-  (Rigtheous Highlystrung holedigging mange ridden half-blind marsupial)...I can feel your elevated blood pressure from here- I&#039;ll see you out matey - couldnt take myself that seriously- bad for my health-keep the tone of the conversation belongs to the circle of your unfortunate intimates that no doubt are the long suffers of your opinionated demeaning rants...I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RHwombat-  (Rigtheous Highlystrung holedigging mange ridden half-blind marsupial)&#8230;I can feel your elevated blood pressure from here- I&#8217;ll see you out matey - couldnt take myself that seriously- bad for my health-keep the tone of the conversation belongs to the circle of your unfortunate intimates that no doubt are the long suffers of your opinionated demeaning rants&#8230;I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rhwombat</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhwombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alistairj: &quot;sanctimonious putdowns&quot; &amp; &quot;Reactionary responses like yours evidence cowardice of spirit and paucity of independent thought&quot;. Project much?  

You pathetic, sneering, self-deluding addict of the the most evil product since slavery was outlawed. I work with the same disadvantaged men (generally victims of the &#039;alcohol and other drugs&#039; culture which somehow manages to rationalise the most addictive substance as OK, at least when in the pub or prison) that you use to as an excuse to rant about the &quot;affront to human dignity&quot;, only when I see them, it is to try and do something about their presentation with one of the diseases imaged. That would be in the public hospitals in which I have worked for 30 years, looking after the victims of your &quot;habit&quot;, far from the private and corporate largesse that you try to tar me with. Bugger off, you posturing dilettante.

Guess what alistair? those pictures are real people, suffering real affronts to their dignity for the benefit of the corporate slavers. You and the &quot;disadvantaged men&quot; whom you patronisingly co-opt to your  public squeamishness are not the target. For you and your mates, it&#039;s already too late: your smoking has already lit the fuse on your malignancies and vascular disease. The images are to try to stop your corporate slave masters from recruiting new smokers for profit and to dilute out the guilt that you try to suppress. So suck it up sweetheart, and I&#039;ll see you in a few years time. Think of this when you light up one of your &quot;disadvantaged&quot; clients cigarettes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alistairj: &#8220;sanctimonious putdowns&#8221; &amp; &#8220;Reactionary responses like yours evidence cowardice of spirit and paucity of independent thought&#8221;. Project much?  </p>
<p>You pathetic, sneering, self-deluding addict of the the most evil product since slavery was outlawed. I work with the same disadvantaged men (generally victims of the &#8216;alcohol and other drugs&#8217; culture which somehow manages to rationalise the most addictive substance as OK, at least when in the pub or prison) that you use to as an excuse to rant about the &#8220;affront to human dignity&#8221;, only when I see them, it is to try and do something about their presentation with one of the diseases imaged. That would be in the public hospitals in which I have worked for 30 years, looking after the victims of your &#8220;habit&#8221;, far from the private and corporate largesse that you try to tar me with. Bugger off, you posturing dilettante.</p>
<p>Guess what alistair? those pictures are real people, suffering real affronts to their dignity for the benefit of the corporate slavers. You and the &#8220;disadvantaged men&#8221; whom you patronisingly co-opt to your  public squeamishness are not the target. For you and your mates, it&#8217;s already too late: your smoking has already lit the fuse on your malignancies and vascular disease. The images are to try to stop your corporate slave masters from recruiting new smokers for profit and to dilute out the guilt that you try to suppress. So suck it up sweetheart, and I&#8217;ll see you in a few years time. Think of this when you light up one of your &#8220;disadvantaged&#8221; clients cigarettes.</p>
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		<title>By: alistairj</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/30/stubbed-out-why-australia-is-alone-on-cigarette-plain-packs/comment-page-1/#comment-235852</link>
		<dc:creator>alistairj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant leave rhwombat&#039;s shrill sanctimonious putdowns lie- you seem to have missed the distinction between plain packaging which I would agree with and offensive imagery- no matter, I can smell an idealogue a mile away- corporate shill indeed, I work in the community sector with disadvantaged men who smoke dissproportionatly to the populace and thus am faced with the graphic images of fleshy decay on  cigarette packages images daily as a result.  If you have medical ears then perhaps you are a beneficiary of the sickness management beaurocracy laughingly described as a health system, where policy is largly  and research totally, dictated by the big pharma  lobby and medico&#039;s wages are inflated by the shop-steward mentality of the AMA- what is most disturbing about your reaction is the willingness to aggresively polarise immediately a viewpoint different to your own or the official paradigm. Reactionary responses like yours evidence cowardice of spirit and paucity of independent thought. Yes by all means discourage smoking, but the images are an affront to human dignity and are simply over the top- that is not plain packaging that is pornography and smacks of paternalism and coercion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant leave rhwombat&#8217;s shrill sanctimonious putdowns lie- you seem to have missed the distinction between plain packaging which I would agree with and offensive imagery- no matter, I can smell an idealogue a mile away- corporate shill indeed, I work in the community sector with disadvantaged men who smoke dissproportionatly to the populace and thus am faced with the graphic images of fleshy decay on  cigarette packages images daily as a result.  If you have medical ears then perhaps you are a beneficiary of the sickness management beaurocracy laughingly described as a health system, where policy is largly  and research totally, dictated by the big pharma  lobby and medico&#8217;s wages are inflated by the shop-steward mentality of the AMA- what is most disturbing about your reaction is the willingness to aggresively polarise immediately a viewpoint different to your own or the official paradigm. Reactionary responses like yours evidence cowardice of spirit and paucity of independent thought. Yes by all means discourage smoking, but the images are an affront to human dignity and are simply over the top- that is not plain packaging that is pornography and smacks of paternalism and coercion.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve777</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Control of tobacco and other potentially harmful products is a difficult judgement call. I think the difference between tobacco and alcohol or fast food is that the latter two are harmless in moderation, whereas no level of tobacco consumption is safe. Most smokers are addicts while only a relatively small proportion of drinkers are alcoholics. In the case of alcohol we legislate to outlaw harmful and irresponsible use, e.g. drinking and driving. But a glass of wine with dinner or one or two beers after work (but not six or eight) is not a problem. People who drink alcohol don&#039;t raise the blood alcohol of those nearby and those who eat hamburgers don&#039;t raise the cholesterol level of strangers, while if someone smokes, everyone nearby has to breath their exhaust. Basically, we want smoking to eventually to become a thing of the past, while the use of alcohol and fast food in moderation is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Control of tobacco and other potentially harmful products is a difficult judgement call. I think the difference between tobacco and alcohol or fast food is that the latter two are harmless in moderation, whereas no level of tobacco consumption is safe. Most smokers are addicts while only a relatively small proportion of drinkers are alcoholics. In the case of alcohol we legislate to outlaw harmful and irresponsible use, e.g. drinking and driving. But a glass of wine with dinner or one or two beers after work (but not six or eight) is not a problem. People who drink alcohol don&#8217;t raise the blood alcohol of those nearby and those who eat hamburgers don&#8217;t raise the cholesterol level of strangers, while if someone smokes, everyone nearby has to breath their exhaust. Basically, we want smoking to eventually to become a thing of the past, while the use of alcohol and fast food in moderation is OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Arty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have tried freedom - letting people destroy their lives with the help of nicotine.

We could try outlawing tobacco, but we have used that model in our war against drugs and succeeded only in making millionaires of some very nasty people. 

The third way, plain packaging and TV advertising and other unfriendly policies just harass tobacco.

When will we use similar harassment against alcohol?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have tried freedom - letting people destroy their lives with the help of nicotine.</p>
<p>We could try outlawing tobacco, but we have used that model in our war against drugs and succeeded only in making millionaires of some very nasty people. </p>
<p>The third way, plain packaging and TV advertising and other unfriendly policies just harass tobacco.</p>
<p>When will we use similar harassment against alcohol?</p>
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		<title>By: Arty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have tried freedom - letting people destroy their lives with the help of nicotine.

We could try outlawing tobacco, but we have used that model in our war against drugs and succeeded only in making millionaires of some very nasty people.with other 

The third way, plain packaging and TV advertising and other unfriendly policies just harass tobacco.

When will we use similar harassment against alcohol?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have tried freedom - letting people destroy their lives with the help of nicotine.</p>
<p>We could try outlawing tobacco, but we have used that model in our war against drugs and succeeded only in making millionaires of some very nasty people.with other </p>
<p>The third way, plain packaging and TV advertising and other unfriendly policies just harass tobacco.</p>
<p>When will we use similar harassment against alcohol?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve777</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobacco Companies are rogue corporations that market addictive poison to minors. Children decide to take up smoking. Adults rarely do. It is not practical to prohibit tobacco - about 17% of the Australian population is addicted to what has been an acceptable drug for centuries. We are not trying to stop those now addicted from buying tobacco and smoking it in private among consenting adults. But we must ban all forms of promotion and marketing to save another generation from becoming hooked and also to make it easier for those who shake the habit to stay clean. Plain packaging will work. How do we know? Big Tobacco hates it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobacco Companies are rogue corporations that market addictive poison to minors. Children decide to take up smoking. Adults rarely do. It is not practical to prohibit tobacco - about 17% of the Australian population is addicted to what has been an acceptable drug for centuries. We are not trying to stop those now addicted from buying tobacco and smoking it in private among consenting adults. But we must ban all forms of promotion and marketing to save another generation from becoming hooked and also to make it easier for those who shake the habit to stay clean. Plain packaging will work. How do we know? Big Tobacco hates it.</p>
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		<title>By: erin benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>erin benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alistairj I&#039;m not pretending to know u or ur experience but I know mine. 9 months ago I lived through my father dying at the hands of tobacco addiction and it was not only a hideous death but something you SHOULD fear. Until my father was refused a lung transplant because his addiction was so strong that he was smoking whilst on oxygen with full blown emphaseama did I realise just how addictive tobacco was and how little &#039;choice&#039; he had in his smoking even after years of sickness. Sorry if your alfresco diners are put out, interested in seeing the study your friend did and see if it stacks up at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alistairj I&#8217;m not pretending to know u or ur experience but I know mine. 9 months ago I lived through my father dying at the hands of tobacco addiction and it was not only a hideous death but something you SHOULD fear. Until my father was refused a lung transplant because his addiction was so strong that he was smoking whilst on oxygen with full blown emphaseama did I realise just how addictive tobacco was and how little &#8216;choice&#8217; he had in his smoking even after years of sickness. Sorry if your alfresco diners are put out, interested in seeing the study your friend did and see if it stacks up at all.</p>
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		<title>By: rhwombat</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhwombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alistairj. Let&#039;s leave the false equivalence bullshit in the US where it (and you) belong, you corporate shill. Your squeals are music to my medical ears, since it means that we are winning. Make your blood money now, because I&#039;ll see you later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alistairj. Let&#8217;s leave the false equivalence bullshit in the US where it (and you) belong, you corporate shill. Your squeals are music to my medical ears, since it means that we are winning. Make your blood money now, because I&#8217;ll see you later.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambling Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambling Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not alone. Chile has recently passed or will pass strict anti-tobacco laws. While passing through Santiago airport in Chile recently I saw that all cigarettes were in plain packaging.  

http://www.santiagotimes.cl/chile/politics/25556-chiles-congress-bans-smoking-in-bars-restaurants-and-nightclubs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not alone. Chile has recently passed or will pass strict anti-tobacco laws. While passing through Santiago airport in Chile recently I saw that all cigarettes were in plain packaging.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.santiagotimes.cl/chile/politics/25556-chiles-congress-bans-smoking-in-bars-restaurants-and-nightclubs" rel="nofollow">http://www.santiagotimes.cl/chile/politics/25556-chiles-congress-bans-smoking-in-bars-restaurants-and-nightclubs</a></p>
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		<title>By: zut alors</title>
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		<dc:creator>zut alors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1894 Oz set a precedent for the olde worlde when granting women the right to stand for parliament (at the same time granting equal voting rights which had already been legislated in NZ the previous year). We&#039;re used to being innovative.

Plain packaging is another example of us taking a bold step while other nations waver. The cigarette manufacturers know they are on borrowed time, they are merely delaying the inevitable decline of their business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1894 Oz set a precedent for the olde worlde when granting women the right to stand for parliament (at the same time granting equal voting rights which had already been legislated in NZ the previous year). We&#8217;re used to being innovative.</p>
<p>Plain packaging is another example of us taking a bold step while other nations waver. The cigarette manufacturers know they are on borrowed time, they are merely delaying the inevitable decline of their business.</p>
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		<title>By: CML</title>
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		<dc:creator>CML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with alistairj  -  the whole Australian effort smacks of &quot;nanny state&quot;.  And everyone I know who smokes transfers their cigarettes to another case anyway.

And NO, JB  -  the Europeans don&#039;t have a problem, WE DO!!  If the Aus government was fair dickum, it would have made tobacco illegal.  But no  -  it still likes to fleece the tobacco user with huge taxes.  Hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with alistairj  -  the whole Australian effort smacks of &#8220;nanny state&#8221;.  And everyone I know who smokes transfers their cigarettes to another case anyway.</p>
<p>And NO, JB  -  the Europeans don&#8217;t have a problem, WE DO!!  If the Aus government was fair dickum, it would have made tobacco illegal.  But no  -  it still likes to fleece the tobacco user with huge taxes.  Hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On this issue, I am proud to be an Australian.

The europeans appear to have a governance problem... so what&#039;s new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this issue, I am proud to be an Australian.</p>
<p>The europeans appear to have a governance problem&#8230; so what&#8217;s new?</p>
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		<title>By: alistairj</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/30/stubbed-out-why-australia-is-alone-on-cigarette-plain-packs/comment-page-1/#comment-235692</link>
		<dc:creator>alistairj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the outcome of the European stoush, I wonder at the wisdom of the Australian experiment- plain packaging is one thing but fear-porn decaying flesh pics are over the top and an affront to any decent human, smoking or non-smoking...the same logic would see dismembered limbs on new car ads and muffin tops and man-tits on fast food packaging. A smoker can not go within cooee of an alfresco venue in the ACT and Victoria while the diners happily sniff fumes from passing vehicles. A journo friend did a comparison of tobacco smoke and  typical auto exhaust fumes.Her conclusion, &#039;the auto lobby is very powerful&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the outcome of the European stoush, I wonder at the wisdom of the Australian experiment- plain packaging is one thing but fear-porn decaying flesh pics are over the top and an affront to any decent human, smoking or non-smoking&#8230;the same logic would see dismembered limbs on new car ads and muffin tops and man-tits on fast food packaging. A smoker can not go within cooee of an alfresco venue in the ACT and Victoria while the diners happily sniff fumes from passing vehicles. A journo friend did a comparison of tobacco smoke and  typical auto exhaust fumes.Her conclusion, &#8216;the auto lobby is very powerful&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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