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Pencil in September for the federal election

The big one — the federal election — will occur later this year, and Western Australia will also head to the polls. Crikey’s elections guru outlines the year ahead and makes some guesses on the big date.

I begin 2013 as I did 2011 and 2012: with a review of this year’s electoral calendar. On the two previous occasions I engaged with the possibility that a federal election might be brought on ahead of time due to parliamentary defections and/or byelection defeats. Having proved more than a few detractors wrong in avoiding such mishaps, the situation for the Gillard government is definitive this time — it will face the polls this year, by no later than November 30.

Should the government push the election date out as far as it can go, it will have extended its “three-year term” to three years and three months, the date of the 2010 election having been August 21. This is because the clock on the three-year term does not start ticking until the first sitting of parliament, which was on September 28, 2010. Once the parliamentary term expires, there can be a 10-day gap before the writs are issued, as many as 27 days for the ensuing nominations period, and a further campaign period of up to 31 days until polling day.

The minority government agreement reached with Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott after the 2010 election stipulated the “full term” to be served should continue until September or October. The Howard government provided handy precedents in this respect, having held out for at least an extra month in 2001 and 2007 without incurring too much opprobrium.

The other end of the equation is how soon the election can be held. In theory, an election for the House of Representatives only can be held at any time, so long as one dispenses with the assumption that it will be held concurrently with a half-Senate election (the time where a double dissolution might have been a theoretical possibility having already passed). A House-only election would put election timing for the two houses out of sync, something governments have been determined in avoiding since the last such election was held in 1972.

There were theories abroad that the government might nonetheless have just such an election in mind, either to seize advantage of an upswing in the polls or to spare itself the embarrassment of failing to bring down a budget surplus. However, the government’s pre-Christmas withdrawal from the surplus commitment — together with the Prime Minister’s recent insistence the election date will be “around three years since the last one” — make it a safe bet the House’s election timetable will indeed be tied to the Senate’s.

The next half-Senate election will be held to replace senators who were elected when Kevin Rudd came to power in 2007. They began their terms in mid-2008 and will end their terms in mid-2014. The election process must begin in the final year of the six-year term, namely from the middle of this year. Since the process involves a campaign period of at least 33 days, the earliest plausible date is August 3 — less than three weeks before the third anniversary of the 2010 election.

The best bets therefore seem to be the first three Saturdays in September (the 7th, 14th and 21st) and the last three in October (the 12th, 19th and 26th) …”

School holidays in various states between September 21 and October 12 offer a complication for part of the period nominated by Windsor and Oakeshott, although Howard’s decision to hold the 2004 election on October 9 showed that only the consecutive AFL and NRL grand final weekends were (in Howard’s own words) “sacrosanct”.

The best bets therefore seem to be the first three Saturdays in September (the 7th, 14th and 21st) and the last three in October (the 12th, 19th and 26th), with the proximity of the three-year election anniversary strengthening the case for September over October.

Considerably less ambiguity surrounds the second biggest electoral event of the year: the state election in Western Australia, where the Barnett government’s introduction of fixed terms has set the date for March 9.

The government has further taken the opportunity to return the election date to its traditional position early in the year, which had been upset by Alan Carpenter’s unsuccessful gamble in bringing the previous election forward to September in 2008.

The introduction of the fixed term regime has thus granted the Barnett government a six-month extension on its four-year term, which as far as I can tell makes this the second longest term served by an Australian parliament since federation — the first being a short-lived experiment with five-year terms in South Australia in the late 1930s.

Surprise early elections in other states are always a technical possibility, but fixed terms and bumper majorities make this very hard to envision in any case but one. The exception is Victoria, where Ted Baillieu’s government holds the slenderest of majorities, trails in the opinion polls, and has ongoing problems with the accident-prone member for a marginal seat. Were Baillieu’s government to fail where Gillard’s has succeeded — and lose a seat through a parliamentary defection or byelection — the result would be a parliamentary gridlock that would almost certainly require an election to resolve.

A step lower on the electoral food chain are byelections, which are hard to foresee in advance but almost certain to occur at least somewhere at state if not federal level. One intriguing possibility emerges from Bob Katter’s promising idea to lead the Katter’s Australian Party Senate ticket in Queensland and bequeath his existing seat of Kennedy to his son Rob Katter. That would require a byelection for Katter Jr’s existing state seat of Mt Isa, which would provide Katter’s Australian Party with a further opportunity to land a punch on the nose of the Liberal National Party.

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  • 1
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think the election will be in September, more then likely it will be Mid October.
    The reason for this thinking is that Abbott is going to try to run a campaign where he will offer very little detail in policy - I know this because as his news year editorail outlined his current policies are completely contradictory and just plain bad - therefore should the ALP go to an electtion in the middle of Football finals they will help Abbott’s cause because the public’s focus wil be elsewhere.
    If they go in Mid to late October they will expose Abbott to a lt more scrutiny.

    Also the later date will allow more time for the MRRT and Carbon tax to operate smoothly and increase the questions about why we need them scrapped.

  • 2
    Sam
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m tipping a November 2 election - give people a week to get over the footy, then have a good four weeks of policy scrutiny and hold the election before there’s any chance of interest rate hysteria from any Cup Day RBA decision.

  • 3
    outside left
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Pretty good reasoning, Jimmy. Also the NBN looms larger as time moves on.

  • 4
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Hang on. Can’t we hope we the people will still be able to force a by election by questioning the honesty and integrity of Jenny Macklin? Have we missed the time where she stepped in and corrected the spin in the official transcript published by her staffer, under the Federal Coat of Arms. Informing readers of what was said about living on the dole? Truth or fiction. Edward James

  • 5
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Quite possible and good reasoning Sam. That would be the latest I think the would go though as once you get into November the opposition will run a variation of the “illegitimate govt” spiel and start saying they are holding on to power undemocraticall y by not allowing the public to vote them out.

  • 6
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - “Can’t we hope we the people will still be able to force a by election by questioning the honesty and integrity of Jenny Macklin?” If you aren’t going to be serious then stop posting on this site!!

  • 7
    Mike Flanagan
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Edward James….Edward James.
    I note there is nothing of substance between both the above names, nor comedy for that matter.

  • 8
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    hay jimmy let us know if Labor Minister Jenny Macklin had the spin removed from the public record! Until that happens I will not change my published position, she is not fit to represent anyone even you! Edward James

  • 9
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Mike flanagan it seems you are a person of very limited views Edward James

  • 10
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    This paragraph of information lifted from the SMH work product of Kate McClymont May in fact support my often published concerns in our Central coast papers that some dodgy political activity is ignored, because it suits both sides of politics, to leave it alone. Most of us have not forgotten the Terrigals grew up on the central coast Chris
    Apart from Mr Skehan’s private company holding shares, another shareholder in Anconna is Tennille Koelma, whose husband Tim Koelma is a former aide to the Resources Minister, Chris Hartcher. Mr Koelma was suspended on full pay in late March for allegedly overseeing a slush fund that took donations to support the minister’s favoured candidates on the central coast. He has since resigned.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/obeid-link-to-tigers-under-the-spotlight-20130106-2cb6k.html#ixzz2HF7zKnu0
    Edward James who says there is nothing funny about systemic corruption when your the one suffering

  • 11
    Mike Flanagan
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Edward James…Edward James;
    Yes limited to substance and logic and not filled in with repetitive self, christening and promotion.

  • 12
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Edward James Mike Flanagan Edward James there you Mike some comedy between! Edward James 0243419140

  • 13
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - SO until I tell you that something you already believe happened you won’t change your position? And supposedly if I do tell you what you already believe you will change your position?

    As for the Macklin matter nobody has heard the tape that the transcript was transcribed from so it is possible (although not probable) that section in question was inaudible and from memory I don’t think it was the only sections of the transcript deemed inaudible. But even if she did fudge the transcript it is hardly a hanging offence, she didn’t change what was said just claimed it couldn’t be heard and the public has been able to see what was said through various other mediums, and I think the transcript has been amended for posterity.

    I think you should spend more time a matters of substance and less time on the trivial - or at least be consistent and hold the conservative side to account for their ” honesty and integrity”

  • 14
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Crikey readers should consider, as should Mike Flanagan. I am not at liberty to promulgate what I publish in my local papers, Peninsula News and other local papers. All Crikey readers have, courtesy of Crikey access to my phone number. Last year people attacked me on Crikey based on what News Limited Richard Noone published in the Telegraph. I was surprised because I had accepted free range activist like me knew main stream media could not be trusted. It seems weak people select tools of connivence. Edward James

  • 15
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy are you conservative? Should Crikey readers hold you responsible for your honesty and integrity? So do you know if Labor Minister Macklin had the dodgy transcript corrected? Jimmy while you may be ignorant. The fact is the recording of the interview has been all over the media with pictures of JM. Where do you want to go Jimmy? Has the Minister withdrawn the garbage transcript published by her staffer under the Federal Coat of Arms. Or is it Labor business as usual Edward James

  • 16
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - “It seems weak people select tools of connivence.” And the feeble minded make no sense!!!

    As for the actual matter of if Macklin could actually live on the dole I would suggest that she is correct in saying that she could. She may not live the same lifestyle but people do live on the dole so why couldn’t she?

    And the argument pushed by the suddenly pro dole bludger News Ltd papers last week that it isn’t living on the dole it’s just existing is exactly the point of the dole, it isn’t supposed to easy, it’s a safety net.

    And I would also query the $38 a day figure being bandied about, that figure doesn’t include rent assistance, the various benefits of the health care card (ie cheaper electricity, rego etc) and Family tax benefit payments.

  • 17
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - “Jimmy are you conservative?” I used to vote vote the Libs but I moved slightly to the left as I matured and they moved a long way to the right so I would say No,

    Should Crikey readers hold you responsible for your honesty and integrity?” Yes.

    So do you know if Labor Minister Macklin had the dodgy transcript corrected?” I thought it was announced that it was corrected last week when her press officer took responsibility for the “error”, however it still appears as inaudible on her webiste so perhaps it hasn’t - I would point out that there are 5 other inaudibles on the transcript - so what other things is she hiding?

    The fact is the recording of the interview has been all over the media with pictures of JM” Yes Edward hence the public saw what was said, but it wasn’t that recording that the transcript was taken from, the press officer had her own recording so unless you have heard that one how do you know it wasn’t inaudible.

    Where do you want to go Jimmy?” I would love to drive from Rome up thourgh the italian Lakes int Germany and across to PAris - how about you?

  • 18
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy. Labor Minister Jenny Macklin is the responsible Minister for her staffer who published an official federal government transcript which tried to remove a question and and an answer which any number of other media have also recorded. Macklin could live on the dole in Asia So what Jimmy Minister Macklin he is responsible for the edited transcript which we all know is dishonest. edward james

  • 19
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - “So what Jimmy Minister Macklin he is responsible for the edited transcript which we all know is dishonest.” How do you know Edward have you heard the tape - do you know it wasn’t inaudible like 5 other secttions of the transcript?

    And was Tony Abbott dishonest when he called climate change crap or when he says it is real? Or was Greg Hunt dishonest when he wrote a thesis on the benefits of Carbon trading or when he vehemently attacks it, or was Joe Hockey dishonest when he calls for the end of the age of entitlement or when he opposes any means testing the govt tries to introduce and supports the libs parental leave policy?

    In short Edward you can focus all your attention of the sideshow of politics or the main event of policy - I know which one effects my life more.

  • 20
    Hamis Hill
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Ed et al, it would make tactical sense for Labor to indicate a September election, allow Abbott to coast up to that date with no policies, then instead go for the November date and eight weeks of public scrutiny of the coalition cranial and policy vacuum.
    Close enough to the famous 24 November destruction of Howard and to finally destroy the Howard Hangovers.
    The worst Opposition in the nation’s history must be utterly extinguished and a new, viable Opposition built in its place.
    Australia’s proud history of democracy demands nothing less than a complete extinction of the Abbotteers.
    Much as the Murdoch press has vowed to destroy The Greens Party, surely the extinction of the present federal coaltion is not too extreme???

  • 21
    Suzanne Blake
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    The campaign has already started in our marginal seat. Signs up everywhere and have been for 3 months.

    Sorry to say Jimmy, Labor will loose this seat by a wide margin. The local member has also gone into hibernation.

    Telling. With ICAC to reveal more in 2013, they will loose 10 seats in NSW at least.

    People have had enough

  • 22
    Suzanne Blake
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Happy New Year Jimmy,

    what happened to the incompetent Swan surplus? Did you have a $100 wager with another Crickey reader? Payment time.

  • 23
    Suzanne Blake
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Hi Jimmy

    I have heard the Macklin taoe and see the interview on TV. He staffer was next to her, she heard it clear as day and was told not to publish it.

    More Labor l i e s and deception, just like ICAC in NSW

  • 24
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Hamis first Australian voters must finish dismantling the Labor party at Federal, State and Local government levels. After that is done, we can consider what to do next. Consider the link at 10 where we readers may consider corruption knows no political boundaries. Edward James

  • 25
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - Again why do you only hold the ALP to account for corruption - in Victoria we have Geoff Shaw being investigated by the police, Qld have already had one minister resign, at a federal level we have Abbott, Bishop and Pyne plus Brough being investigated over their involvement in the Slipper affair - where is your outrage at those issues?

    And even worse than that “corruption” is that as Hamis claims (although it might be an overstatment but not by much) “he worst Opposition in the nation’s history” due to it’s absolutely terrible policy positions and desire to sound bite their way into power supported by a willing media pack.

  • 26
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy seriously one political thing at a time. Labor first! You and all Crikey readers and reporters’ know who I am and how to contact me . So many of you subscribers put $hit on me because I publish my phone number. Why is it only two readers have rang me? Are the rest of you broke, or are you all coward ? Edward James, the cowards among you know my phone number

  • 27
    tonyfunnywalker
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Oh not Edward James again - new beat up? I agree with Jimmy that mid October is most likely. For all those who hoped to get an early election by any means fair or foul ( and mostly foul, will get their wish on time.
    Abbott has played the early election card to death another failure Tony ” now we can hold you to account” . You will now have to come up with some ” hail Mary” policies as you vilification has failed but the you and the Liberals now have to be a creditable opposition that does not waste parliamentary time on beat- ups and vilification. There needs to be some reshuffles on the front bench and that should include Abbott.
    He will lose the election for the Liberals.

    The Crickey poll was enlightening as to Turnbull’s effectiveness and he does not need the image change, women love him rather than being made to love him by the News Ltd tabloids (the OZ included).

    With the current ” softening up of the ABC” by News Ltd ( standard practice for an election year” - the ABC should retaliate by not having any News Ltd commentators on their News Programs there are more balanced commentators around.
    Good to see Bernard on News 24 at least he knows what he was talking about.

  • 28
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - “Jimmy seriously one political thing at a time. Labor first!” So once you have voted Labor out then you will start to complain about the Liberals, ie after you put them in power. Seems to be the actions of a contrarian.

    And Edward why would anyone ring you, your posts rarely make sense and never engage in any serious issue, you focus on the politics and avoid the policy - if you want people to ring you try to be more engaging.

  • 29
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Oh not Edward James again…. Yep i am still here politically active on the Central Coast. So Luke skewalker tell crikey readers what you know about Lucy Wicks the candidate for Robertson

  • 30
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    SB - I don’t recall any wager but if someone would like to demonstrate otherwise I would gladly pay up.

    On what happened to the surplus well when revenues fall like they have a surplus is hard achieve and for what it is worth while I did think they would go for a surplus at any cost to satisfy a political goal and avoid the “broken promise” lines economically it is brilliant that they have finally decided to allow a small deficit. Anoterh sign of good economic management from Mr Swan.

    On Macklin, I don’t care where the Staffer was standing unless you have heard the tape you can’t say for certain that it was audible.

  • 31
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Engaging, are you serious anonymous Jimmy. I have changed the face of politics here on the Beautiful Central Coast. You on the other hand are at best a ghost! Edward James

  • 32
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    SB - “Telling. With ICAC to reveal more in 2013, they will loose 10 seats in NSW at least.” Given you track record on predictions I won’t put too much stock in this one, but even if you are right, on a state level the Libs are 10 points behind in Victoria (45-55) at the moment and they are plunging rapidly in Qld with more public sector cuts to frontline forces being announced all the time.

    With Tony being as unpopular as he is and the carbon tax becoming a non issue this election is a long way from over.

    By the way how many seats were the libs supposed to win in NSW last time around?

  • 33
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - “Engaging, are you serious anonymous Jimmy. I have changed the face of politics here on the Beautiful Central Coast. You on the other hand are at best a ghost!” I don’t suffer from the delusions of grandeur you obviously do - I only judge from what you post on here, no policy discussion, all ranting over corruption and minor political issues - not engaging or intelligent. And not all change is for the good you know.

  • 34
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 4:47 pm Jimmy. You are sulking. We the people of Australia all heard what was recorded by several Australian media people. I accept you Jimmy want to claim something else was recorded. I say Jimmy bring it to us the people or piss off. Anonymous Jimmy I think you are are a joke. Edward James 0243419140

  • 35
    geomac62
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Ed ” ring ring ” James
    It might be a new year but your as one eyed as ever . Give SB a call , might make your inane comments seem more reasonable .

  • 36
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Well suzanne blake you have my post office box number. will i receive something instructive ? Edward James

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    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    geomac 63 nothing from darwin new to offer.

  • 38
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - I a not sulking and I too heard what was recorded by a different recording advice, but that does not mean that the recording device used for the transcript wasn’t inaudible - as I said way back at 2.09 “it is possible (although not probable) that section in question was inaudible”.
    So I am not claiming something different was recorded, I am claiming it is possible the recording was inaudible and you and SB who claim that everyone “knows” the transcript was deliberately corrupted have no evidence. you bel ieve it was but as you haven’t heard the recording used you can not know.

    ” I say Jimmy bring it to us the people or piss off.” It is not for me to prove my assertion of a possibility, it is for you to prove your assertion of a certainty so I say Edward James Bring it to us the people or piss off.

    And being called a joke by you Edward is like being called fat by a Sumo.

  • 39
    iggy648
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Hi Edward. I live on the Central Coast, and I’d never head of you before I saw your name in Crikey. How have you changed the face of politics? Just curious.

  • 40
    iggy648
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    heard!

  • 41
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy the recording Minister Macklin is without question. Since then the recording of the woman staffers iphone has been kept confidential. We the peoples have heard and watched what was said. So for how much longer will you jimmy and Labor deny the truth? Edward James

  • 42
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    iggy648 ring 0243419140 perhaps it is a local call for youiggy

  • 43
    Jimmy
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Edward James - For F..k skae Edward read what I have said, “it is possible (although not probable) that section in question was inaudible” - Nothing there is denying that the recording could have been audible. What it is saying is that because you haven’t heard the recording you can not say definitively that the transcript was deliberately falsified and definitely can not say the recording is with out question, what Macklin said is without question but what was recorded on an iphone is a different story.

    And why don’t you put this much effort into any issue of substance - is it because you can’t understand them?

  • 44
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy sorry I cant help you . Good by Edward James

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    Mike Flanagan
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Edward James…Eddie- me- boy;
    Having been exposed to your religiosity and weird interpretation of politics for the past twelve months or more I can only ask that you close the door firmly but quietly behind you.

  • 46
    Edward James
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    You close the door first Mike. I have my own political work to do, none of which you would support. Cheers Edward james

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    John Hargrave
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    The election will be in Sept or Oct-perhaps Sept as it will tie in with Victoria’s AFL Grandfinal a strong state (relatively)for Gillard. Whenever it is held, Tony Abbott will be the new PM, and Labor will be in tatters.

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    Mike Flanagan
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    John Hargrave;
    Apart from the absence of policy I think he might have to remove those budgie snugglers to get there. That might prove more offensive than wearing them.

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    GeeWizz
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    2013 Election Highlights:

    Slippery Pete - Labor’s good mate who they claimed was setup in a grand conspiracy by the Lib Party now being investigated by the AFP for dodgy taxi cab rides this year

    Craig Tommo Thomson - The PM’s “Full Confidence in Craig” will become interesting as the FWA charged him with multi violations and will be seeking damages. Vic and NSW still looking into him and likely to make charges public shortly

    Michael Williamson - Ex National President of the Australian Labor Party, accussed of multi-million dollar rorts back at the HSU and allegedly busted with a bag of documents taken out of HSU headquarters in the carpark. Another thrilling drama for the upcoming 2013 election.

    Obeid/McDonald - NSW Labor sleeze continues to grow.. just in time for the 2013 Federal Election. Alleged of one of the greatest corruption scandals in Australia’s history.

    The level of sleeze in the Australian Labor Party is palpable and this year will be the Grand Final for the ALP.

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    taylormade
    Posted Monday, 7 January 2013 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy - is that the extent of your comments on the unlikely swan surplus is it ?. Considering your comments over the past 2 years was expecting more. No comment on the timing, no comment on Swans handling of the original mining tax and also the MRRT. No comment on the way he has treated his collegues?

    How are we supposed to believe any thing that comes out of Swans mouth in the lead up to the election ??

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