Comments on: How the internet rewires the circuits of our public space — and you http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/ now with extra source Sat, 25 May 2013 23:29:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Williams Patricia http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233282 Williams Patricia Sat, 05 Jan 2013 04:14:37 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233282 Oh, I liked that, makes me glad I joined Crikey! Oh, I liked that, makes me glad I joined Crikey!

]]> By: Robert Brown http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233233 Robert Brown Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:46:38 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233233 Print it, frame it and put it on the wall! An excellent state-of-the-nation write up. Thanks! Print it, frame it and put it on the wall! An excellent state-of-the-nation write up. Thanks!

]]> By: Luke Sinclair http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233226 Luke Sinclair Tue, 01 Jan 2013 09:55:41 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233226 This was my first Crikey read and it is a great refreshment. I think I will stay on board if this is the level of article that I can expect. Fantastic! This was my first Crikey read and it is a great refreshment. I think I will stay on board if this is the level of article that I can expect. Fantastic!

]]> By: Kevin Herbert http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233219 Kevin Herbert Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:38:41 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233219 Bernard: Your line "... the rage of the prostatetariat".is the best of 2012. Late but a clear winner Bernard:

Your line “… the rage of the prostatetariat”.is the best of 2012.

Late but a clear winner

]]> By: james morrison http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233201 james morrison Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:54:28 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233201 It's been an interesting year and your analysis and perspective give me hope about the survival of political journalism beyond the demise of the mainstream media. Looking forward to your thoughts in 2013. It’s been an interesting year and your analysis and perspective give me hope about the survival of political journalism beyond the demise of the mainstream media. Looking forward to your thoughts in 2013.

]]> By: Hamis Hill http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233191 Hamis Hill Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:17:28 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233191 2012, when the world of the old media came to an end. And the echoes of whimpering will bounce around for a while. But don't be deceived, the Old Media are dead. There may be a few diseased remnants, former employees, who linger for a while, but they carry within them the poisoned seeds of their own destruction. Good riddance! The internets direct source of knowledge will "educate" democracy with no need for "mediation" by the palace eunuchs of the press revealed in 2012 to be just politicians in hiding. To paraphrase Thomas Carlyle, who coined the term "The Fourth Estate" let a million editors bloom, unmediated by mediocracry mocked up as as excellence. We do not need the muse Clio to write the doings of the gods, such gods as there may be can write for themselves on the internet, while the worms who may wish to worship them can continue to crawl in the dirt. Oh, well done Bernard! 2012, when the world of the old media came to an end.
And the echoes of whimpering will bounce around for a while. But don’t be deceived, the Old Media are dead.
There may be a few diseased remnants, former employees, who linger for a while, but they carry within them the poisoned seeds of their own destruction. Good riddance!
The internets direct source of knowledge will “educate” democracy with no need for “mediation” by the palace eunuchs of the press revealed in 2012 to be just politicians in hiding.
To paraphrase Thomas Carlyle, who coined the term “The Fourth Estate” let a million editors bloom, unmediated by mediocracry mocked up as as excellence.
We do not need the muse Clio to write the doings of the gods, such gods as there may be can write for themselves on the internet, while the worms who may wish to worship them can continue to crawl in the dirt.
Oh, well done Bernard!

]]> By: Karen http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233188 Karen Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:49:25 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233188 An erudite essay to end the year, Bernard. Well done! An erudite essay to end the year, Bernard. Well done!

]]> By: Kevin Tyerman http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233187 Kevin Tyerman Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:54:44 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233187 A few days into my first employment in 1980, a much older colleague told me that knowledge is not just what you know, but also knowing where and how to access the information that you need.... So long as you can determine accuracy in the information that you are accessing, I guess that the internet has made that concept much more poignant (and accessable) to the general population. A few days into my first employment in 1980, a much older colleague told me that knowledge is not just what you know, but also knowing where and how to access the information that you need…. So long as you can determine accuracy in the information that you are accessing, I guess that the internet has made that concept much more poignant (and accessable) to the general population.

]]> By: Gavin Moodie http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233171 Gavin Moodie Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:06:03 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233171 Presumably 30 years ago pollies held media conferences to meet the deadlines of the morning or afternoon papers; 20 years ago to meet the deadline of the morning papers; and from 15 years ago to meet the deadline of evening tv news. We'll know that online media have become more important than the traditional media when pollies time media conferences to suit the online media, ie, at any time of the day (or nite). Presumably 30 years ago pollies held media conferences to meet the deadlines of the morning or afternoon papers; 20 years ago to meet the deadline of the morning papers; and from 15 years ago to meet the deadline of evening tv news. We’ll know that online media have become more important than the traditional media when pollies time media conferences to suit the online media, ie, at any time of the day (or nite).

]]> By: Bernard Keane http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233169 Bernard Keane Wed, 26 Dec 2012 05:50:29 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233169 my say, I go to press conferences when it doesn't conflict with deadlines, which is a big hindrance. the Press Club has an "identify yourself" requirement but those questions are doled out. media events are usually free-for-alls. my say, I go to press conferences when it doesn’t conflict with deadlines, which is a big hindrance. the Press Club has an “identify yourself” requirement but those questions are doled out. media events are usually free-for-alls.

]]> By: dale ross http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233145 dale ross Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:12:58 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233145 Nothing more demonstrates the irrelevancy of the Canberra Press Gallery than how they mis-read Julia Gillard's Misogyny speech. That's amplified by their failure to investigate Slippergate and the attempts to spin it any other way than a disaster for Tony Abbott. There could be no more fascinating Good Story than Slippergate and where the MSM fails, the net will provide. Print newspapers are determined to dictate what their readers shall have despite those readers fleeing in the 1000s. Even the rise of the parasitical parts of the net : Google, Facebook, Twitter etc that are sucking up all advertising revenue , basing themselves in tax havens and allowing the ordinary punter to subsidize them while retuning little to the community, were actively promoted by the MSM, unable to perceive that simultaneously they were shooting themselves in the foot and promoting without question for investors, the Mother of All Rip-Offs. Today's print journalists will be tomorrow taxi drivers. Nothing more demonstrates the irrelevancy of the Canberra Press Gallery than how they mis-read Julia Gillard’s Misogyny speech.
That’s amplified by their failure to investigate Slippergate and the attempts to spin it any other way than a disaster for Tony Abbott.

There could be no more fascinating Good Story than Slippergate and where the MSM fails, the net will provide.

Print newspapers are determined to dictate what their readers shall have despite those readers fleeing in the 1000s.

Even the rise of the parasitical parts of the net : Google, Facebook, Twitter etc that are sucking up all advertising revenue , basing themselves in tax havens and allowing the ordinary punter to subsidize them while retuning little to the community, were actively promoted by the MSM, unable to perceive that simultaneously they were shooting themselves in the foot and promoting without question for investors, the Mother of All Rip-Offs.

Today’s print journalists will be tomorrow taxi drivers.

]]> By: zac48 http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233144 zac48 Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:52:09 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233144 What are computer dependents and addicts going to do when the electricity goes off, for good? They don't even know how to write or spell. Brownouts are common in many country's around the world and we are already seeing groups in the Australian community who have been forced to disconnect their electricity because they can't afford it. What are computer dependents and addicts going to do when the electricity goes off, for good? They don’t even know how to write or spell. Brownouts are common in many country’s around the world and we are already seeing groups in the Australian community who have been forced to disconnect their electricity because they can’t afford it.

]]> By: my say http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233109 my say Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:48:27 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233109 bernard one question if i may do you go to news conferences with the PM and the loto i have often thought it would be good to say who one is when asking a question, good publcity for the site and good to hear a voice from modern media. have a nice christmas and break bernard one question if i may
do you go to news conferences with the PM and the loto

i have often thought it would be good to say who one is when asking a question, good publcity for the site and good to hear a voice from modern media.
have a nice christmas and break

]]> By: my say http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233108 my say Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:43:56 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233108 great Bernard really enjoyed, reminds me years ago when my oh was talking about this new the the computer and the Internet. mentioned to some staff they should learn up on the new technology. the person above him at the time, said why would you its only fad. surffice to say the older boss was quickly left behind. so this reminds me of old media great Bernard really enjoyed,
reminds me years ago when my oh was talking about this new the the computer and the Internet.
mentioned to some staff they should learn up on the new technology.
the person above him at the time, said why would you
its only fad.

surffice to say the older boss was quickly left behind.

so this reminds me of old media

]]> By: helen browne http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233102 helen browne Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:01:37 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233102 Excellent What more can I say.Keep up the good work Bernard. Excellent What more can I say.Keep up the good work Bernard.

]]> By: Charles Kerr http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233097 Charles Kerr Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:57:39 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233097 Gold! Thanks for the Christmas present, Bernard. Look forward to more in the new year. Gold! Thanks for the Christmas present, Bernard.

Look forward to more in the new year.

]]> By: Rossleigh Brisbane http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233094 Rossleigh Brisbane Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:18:09 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233094 There's a great bit in "Amusing Ourselves to Death" where the writer relates how Lincoln when campaigning for president suggests that everyone goes home and has dinner and comes back because they've just listened to a two hour speech from his opportunity and he doesn't want them to be hungry as he intends to speak for that amount of time also. Of course, our brains have been re-wired, but the guff the papers talk about the internet rotting our brains - which, when analysed, is often just someone's opinion without any evidence - is absurd when compared to the tripe they serve up as news! There’s a great bit in “Amusing Ourselves to Death” where the writer relates how Lincoln when campaigning for president suggests that everyone goes home and has dinner and comes back because they’ve just listened to a two hour speech from his opportunity and he doesn’t want them to be hungry as he intends to speak for that amount of time also. Of course, our brains have been re-wired, but the guff the papers talk about the internet rotting our brains - which, when analysed, is often just someone’s opinion without any evidence - is absurd when compared to the tripe they serve up as news!

]]> By: Lano http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233092 Lano Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:03:00 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233092 Couldn't help but think of Paul Kelly and how he is rolled out to to analyse, explain and propogate the middle aged white mans view. He's become one of the shrillest to survive but can't see it. More insight in your work than I've seen in the Australian for years. Watch out, they'll be after you next. Couldn’t help but think of Paul Kelly and how he is rolled out to to analyse, explain and propogate the middle aged white mans view. He’s become one of the shrillest to survive but can’t see it. More insight in your work than I’ve seen in the Australian for years. Watch out, they’ll be after you next.

]]> By: zut alors http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233087 zut alors Mon, 24 Dec 2012 05:10:26 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233087 You're going off for the Christmas break on a high, Bernard, a most interesting read. 'Prostatetariat' deserves the gong for Word of the Year 2012 - wish I'd coined it. You’re going off for the Christmas break on a high, Bernard, a most interesting read.

‘Prostatetariat’ deserves the gong for Word of the Year 2012 - wish I’d coined it.

]]> By: andrew doyle http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233084 andrew doyle Mon, 24 Dec 2012 04:55:01 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233084 Fantastic. Fantastic.

]]> By: CHRISTOPHER DUNNE http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233083 CHRISTOPHER DUNNE Mon, 24 Dec 2012 04:48:06 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233083 And no zombie trolls either Wexford...must be the Xmas spirit they've imbibed. And no zombie trolls either Wexford…must be the Xmas spirit they’ve imbibed.

]]> By: Wexford http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233080 Wexford Mon, 24 Dec 2012 04:37:54 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233080 Quite possibly Bernard's best work this year, and summing said year up while he's at it. It's not lost on us that this commentary is published in the new medium. No raging prostatetariat to be seen here! Quite possibly Bernard’s best work this year, and summing said year up while he’s at it.

It’s not lost on us that this commentary is published in the new medium. No raging prostatetariat to be seen here!

]]> By: susan winstanley http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233074 susan winstanley Mon, 24 Dec 2012 03:54:45 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233074 Excellent Bernard. Excellent Bernard.

]]> By: joe2 http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233073 joe2 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 03:48:39 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233073 [Fascinating ‘rings-true’ piece.] Bernard has moved beyond the groupthink that infected him a while back. It's good.

Fascinating ‘rings-true’ piece.

Bernard has moved beyond the groupthink that infected him a while back. It’s good.

]]> By: Daly http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/24/how-the-internet-rewires-the-circuits-of-our-public-space-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-233067 Daly Mon, 24 Dec 2012 03:33:48 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=340106#comment-233067 Thanks Bernard for a good year of informed comment. That's not readily available elsewhere. Thanks Bernard for a good year of informed comment. That’s not readily available elsewhere.

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