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	<title>Comments on: On the Newfoundland rock, where federation didn&#8217;t go smoothly</title>
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		<title>By: Bob the builder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob the builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon, part of France, lie 20km off the Newfoundland coast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon, part of France, lie 20km off the Newfoundland coast!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the builder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob the builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a nice nostalgic trip back to Newfoundland.  In the late &#039;90s I hitched up from Montreal to North Sydney and got the ferry to Port aux Basques and hitched around to Argentia, past St. Johns over a fortnight.
Time didn&#039;t permit more lingering, but I&#039;ve always wanted to go back and spend more time.  A place that was the first European contact with North America, modern-day Saint Anthony, still has significant parts accessible only by boat and has a beguiling mix of west country and Irish linguistic influences.  A place without fences, with houses placed higgledy-piggledy, a kind of friendly frozen exception to Canada - but in its uniqueness, a place that epitomises Canadian diversity, a diversity so different to Austalia&#039;s grudging celebration of multiculturalism as a bringer of good restaurants, where English, French and Scottish co-exist within a few hundred kilometres, where Irish was still spoken a few decades ago.
Perhaps that&#039;s all a bit florid, but it was nice to reminisce about a special place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a nice nostalgic trip back to Newfoundland.  In the late &#8217;90s I hitched up from Montreal to North Sydney and got the ferry to Port aux Basques and hitched around to Argentia, past St. Johns over a fortnight.<br />
Time didn&#8217;t permit more lingering, but I&#8217;ve always wanted to go back and spend more time.  A place that was the first European contact with North America, modern-day Saint Anthony, still has significant parts accessible only by boat and has a beguiling mix of west country and Irish linguistic influences.  A place without fences, with houses placed higgledy-piggledy, a kind of friendly frozen exception to Canada - but in its uniqueness, a place that epitomises Canadian diversity, a diversity so different to Austalia&#8217;s grudging celebration of multiculturalism as a bringer of good restaurants, where English, French and Scottish co-exist within a few hundred kilometres, where Irish was still spoken a few decades ago.<br />
Perhaps that&#8217;s all a bit florid, but it was nice to reminisce about a special place!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.

Small quibble:
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The sheer length of the process, the confusing first result — no one cause got a plurality of the vote...
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It&#039;s almost impossible to not &quot;get a plurality of the vote&quot; - presumably you meant majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.</p>
<p>Small quibble:</p>
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The sheer length of the process, the confusing first result — no one cause got a plurality of the vote&#8230;
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<p>It&#8217;s almost impossible to not &#8220;get a plurality of the vote&#8221; - presumably you meant majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Migraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Migraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another lovely piece. I can understand why the place called to you, to answer that mystery of national or regional identity and how it can be used, abused, transformed - in this case with the twist of a nation negating itself. This is what I find fascinating about meeting and talking to people from the old eastern bloc, from the once-upon-a-time Czechoslovakia and the former Yugoslavia: trying to understand not only what it was like groeing up in an occupied state, under a monolithic government, but also how it felt to wake up one day in a different country, with everything changed and not necesarily a good idea of how all of this happened ... Alien thoughts in Australia, which has never known a real threat to its singleness. Not even from the crazy seccessionist bastards up north and out west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another lovely piece. I can understand why the place called to you, to answer that mystery of national or regional identity and how it can be used, abused, transformed - in this case with the twist of a nation negating itself. This is what I find fascinating about meeting and talking to people from the old eastern bloc, from the once-upon-a-time Czechoslovakia and the former Yugoslavia: trying to understand not only what it was like groeing up in an occupied state, under a monolithic government, but also how it felt to wake up one day in a different country, with everything changed and not necesarily a good idea of how all of this happened &#8230; Alien thoughts in Australia, which has never known a real threat to its singleness. Not even from the crazy seccessionist bastards up north and out west.</p>
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		<title>By: Moving to Paraguay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving to Paraguay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going up to Canada? This is seems a characteristic of the vertically assertive Newfoundlanders. According to Melvin Baker and Robert H. Cuff (&#039;&quot;Down North&quot;: A Historiographical Overview of Newfoundland Labrador&#039; Newfoundland Quarterly, vol. LXXXVIII, no. 2, Summer/Fall 1993, pp. 2-12), locals talk about &#039;going down north to Labrador&#039;, never wanting to look up to their neighbours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going up to Canada? This is seems a characteristic of the vertically assertive Newfoundlanders. According to Melvin Baker and Robert H. Cuff (&#8216;&#8220;Down North&#8221;: A Historiographical Overview of Newfoundland Labrador&#8217; Newfoundland Quarterly, vol. LXXXVIII, no. 2, Summer/Fall 1993, pp. 2-12), locals talk about &#8216;going down north to Labrador&#8217;, never wanting to look up to their neighbours.</p>
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		<title>By: paddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating stuff. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating stuff. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Rundle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes yes i do damn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes yes i do damn</p>
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		<title>By: billie</title>
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		<dc:creator>billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 02:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean Mayflower, 1620,  not Mayfair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean Mayflower, 1620,  not Mayfair?</p>
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