Comments on: Abstention sends a strong message to both sides http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/29/abstention-sends-a-strong-message-to-both-sides/ now with extra source Sat, 18 May 2013 09:24:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kevin Herbert http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/29/abstention-sends-a-strong-message-to-both-sides/comment-page-1/#comment-232561 Kevin Herbert Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:36:58 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=334658#comment-232561 Judy Bamberger: well said. Judy Bamberger:

well said.

]]> By: Malcolm Street http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/29/abstention-sends-a-strong-message-to-both-sides/comment-page-1/#comment-230220 Malcolm Street Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:32:31 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=334658#comment-230220 Judy - what I think was missing from a lot of commentary (including Crikey's) and probably deliberately ignored by the Opposition is that in *diplomatic* circles abstention has a very distinct meaning. It's a bit like a Scots jury coming down with a verdict of "Not Proven". Judy - what I think was missing from a lot of commentary (including Crikey’s) and probably deliberately ignored by the Opposition is that in *diplomatic* circles abstention has a very distinct meaning. It’s a bit like a Scots jury coming down with a verdict of “Not Proven”.

]]> By: rodholesgrove http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/29/abstention-sends-a-strong-message-to-both-sides/comment-page-1/#comment-230118 rodholesgrove Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:41:06 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=334658#comment-230118 Whats this stuff about the many incompetencies of the PM in Criikey intro of 29 November?. Give me strength!. In time she will be recognised as an excellent PM, given the number of legislative outcomes achieved in a hung Parliament. Some of these reforms could be classed as sub-optimal, but still it is an impressive list of reforms - just consider carbon pricing legislation. Gonski. NDIS, Pokies reform,mineral resource tax, Murray Darling and the list goes on. Lets look at the record of the Lib's great John Howard. It hard to remember what he achieved. He did preside over a benign economic climate, but as far as PM incompetencies go it is hard to go past his 'achievement' of taking Australia into the illegal and highly disasterous, Iraq war. Whats this stuff about the many incompetencies of the PM in Criikey intro of 29 November?. Give me strength!. In time she will be recognised as an excellent PM, given the number of legislative outcomes achieved in a hung Parliament. Some of these reforms could be classed as sub-optimal, but still it is an impressive list of reforms - just consider carbon pricing legislation. Gonski. NDIS, Pokies reform,mineral resource tax, Murray Darling and the list goes on. Lets look at the record of the Lib’s great John Howard. It hard to remember what he achieved. He did preside over a benign economic climate, but as far as PM incompetencies go it is hard to go past his ‘achievement’ of taking Australia into the illegal and highly disasterous, Iraq war.

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