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Come in Spinner: is there anything original in politics?

It seems many anecdotes are just recycled versions of stories about pollies from other generations rather than authentic memories. Do all pollies just plagiarise from their predecessors? And is that OK?

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Politicians are often better remembered for anecdotes about them or their nicknames than their policy achievements.

It seems many anecdotes are just recycled versions of stories about pollies from other generations rather than authentic memories — as illustrated by the recent discussion on Crikey about the origin of the comment about the opposition being in front of you and the enemy behind.

For instance, Ferdinand Mount’s memoir Cold Cream puts Tony Abbott’s “Mad Monk” nickname in some context. Mount worked as head of Margaret Thatcher’s Policy Unit, edited the Times Literary Supplement, and has written a number of books — fiction and non-fiction. Cold Cream is intensely interesting, in places as vicious as Patrick White’s Flaws in the Glass and tells you as much about culture in the UK in the second half of the twentieth century as it does about politics.

Now the “Mad Monk” concept probably stems from genuinely mad monks in long-gone times although it arrested public attention in English-speaking countries with the eighteenth century Gothic novel genre, particularly Matthew Lewis’ 1796 work The Monk. In Russia the “Mad Monk” was, of course, Rasputin.

In the UK, the “Mad Monk” nickname was first bestowed on Sir Keith Joseph by Chris Patten, then director of the Conservative Research Department. Joseph (an unlikely monk, being Jewish) was probably the intellectual progenitor of Thatcherism and when appointed minister gave his public servants reading lists of books which would introduce them to his philosophic and intellectual approach to issues.

Love or hate Joseph you have to admire the fact that he had a reading list to distribute. In Australian politics Barry Jones would be a rare similar example. Bob Carr could probably provide a substantial reading list but it might be skewed more to one field (the US Civil War) than any Jones list would.

Patten was, of course, trying to capture the difference between the Thatcherites and the “wets”, but when Abbott got the same nickname it was probably more to do with the religious background and the fact that many people thought he was mad in a non-clinical sense.

As far as the Crikey correspondence about who made the comment about enemies and opposition, I think I have heard it ascribed to a variety of people from Yes Minister’s Jim Hacker to Fred Daly. Presumably the writer Antony Jay got it from someone in British politics and we now have our local Fred Daly version.

Similarly many of the Menzies witticisms came originally from Churchill with the anecdote about this piece of repartee — “If you were my husband I would give you poison. Madam, if you were my wife I would take it” — having been told about both Churchill and Menzies. There is good evidence that Churchill did say it in a specific context but the Menzies version may be apocryphal.

Equally many of Churchill’s witticisms and some of his repartee were first mouthed by F.E. Smith, one of Churchill’s circle. F.E. Smith, having the misfortune to die first, gets little of the credit although he was apparently first responsible for the comment that Winston spent the best years of his life rehearsing his impromptu remarks.

Today, in an era of gotcha journalism and Google, recycling anecdotes is harder mainly because people are quick to condemn politicians for plagiarism — although whether retelling old jokes and anecdotes is the same as plagiarising a thesis is a moot point. Equally politicians can be easily seduced into believing that they were part of something they weren’t  — witness Ronald Reagan’s conviction that he filmed at Buchenwald and any number of Reagan anecdotes which were just plain wrong and misleading.

Of course, thinking you were at some historic event happens in many fields — the final day attendance at the 1960-61 tied Brisbane Australia-West Indies Test was actually quite small but for many years after it seemed everyone in Brisbane claimed to have been there.

The 2010 tied parliament post-election events are unlikely to resonate as long and as memorably as the tied Test, but perhaps in 50 years Julia Gillard’s misogyny speech will be recalled by those who weren’t there just as the tied Test does.

Whether it does or not we can be sure that by then there will be anecdotes which will demonstrate conclusively that the politicians of today were witty and incisive giants compared to the political hacks of 2062.

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    Steve777
    Posted Monday, 26 November 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    I remember Gerard Henderson once condemning Tony Abbott’s nickname of ‘the Mad Monk’ as a disgraceful sectarian jibe. I think it much more likely that the appellation is a typical Aussie play on Mr Abbott’s surname i.e. Abbot = head of a monastery, together with a comment on his often volatile temperament in the years before he became Leader of the Opposition.

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    Peter Fuller
    Posted Monday, 26 November 2012 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Noel,
    I was disappointed to learn (quite recently) that a Fred Daly remark at the height of the 1975 political crisis was not original.
    When Gough W. was enduring a torrid time at the hands of the media, Fred observed that if Gough was to walk across Lake Burley Griffin to Civic, it would be reported with a breathless headline “Whitlam can’t swim.”
    Almost 40 years later, it was drawn to my attention that Richard Nixon had made an equivalent complaint about the nature of reporting about him - after news of Watergate broke.

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    Bill Hilliger
    Posted Monday, 26 November 2012 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    @steve777 you have high expectations of some that work for the Australian, Gerard Henderson wouldn’t have the intellect to join the dots of mad monk thingy: Abbott = head of a monastery.

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    Andybob
    Posted Tuesday, 27 November 2012 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    I don’t recall the poison anecdote being attributed to Menzies. There was a rather good one in a similar vein, of Menzies at a rally. A woman yelled out: ‘I wouldn’t vote for ya if you were the Archangel Gabriel’. He responded: ‘Madam, if I were the Archangel Gabriel, you wouldn’t be in my electorate’. No idea if it was original.

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    db
    Posted Tuesday, 27 November 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    For some reason I gained the impression that Tony Abbott’s “Mad Monk” nickname was from his student politics days. I’d heard it was due to a combination of referring to his time in the seminary and his Rasputin-like pursuit of several young ladies. Unfortunately I can’t remember where I heard that from so it may have even been a joke.

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