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	<title>Comments on: Why it has to be Hillary (but it shouldn&#8217;t be)</title>
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		<title>By: Chapman Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229518</link>
		<dc:creator>Chapman Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like it or not, the fund raising laws mean that whoever gets nominated will ahve to be either 1) very rich or 2)capale of raising lots of money from corporate interests. I&#039;m wondering if someone like Michael Bloomberg may be attractive to either side (if they can convince him to join their side).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, the fund raising laws mean that whoever gets nominated will ahve to be either 1) very rich or 2)capale of raising lots of money from corporate interests. I&#8217;m wondering if someone like Michael Bloomberg may be attractive to either side (if they can convince him to join their side).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229304</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you think the Democrats should move to putting up &#039;candidates by turn&#039;, that has served the Republicans so well?  She wasn&#039;t good enough to beat Obama in the last run for Democrat preselection, give someone else a chance, rather than go for this pathetic calling in of favours.  (dare I say it, someone less than retirement age)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think the Democrats should move to putting up &#8216;candidates by turn&#8217;, that has served the Republicans so well?  She wasn&#8217;t good enough to beat Obama in the last run for Democrat preselection, give someone else a chance, rather than go for this pathetic calling in of favours.  (dare I say it, someone less than retirement age)</p>
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		<title>By: Salamander</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229204</link>
		<dc:creator>Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Guy you agree that Hillary would make a great President, and your headline that she shouldn&#039;t be elected is just the Ed&#039;s misreading of your article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Guy you agree that Hillary would make a great President, and your headline that she shouldn&#8217;t be elected is just the Ed&#8217;s misreading of your article?</p>
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		<title>By: owlcode</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229146</link>
		<dc:creator>owlcode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside, if you want to find people/persons more out there than the birther, Tea Party, Donald Trump, unskewedpolls people, have a look at the hillaryis44 site (use Google).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, if you want to find people/persons more out there than the birther, Tea Party, Donald Trump, unskewedpolls people, have a look at the hillaryis44 site (use Google).</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229141</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take your point, but I agree with others who have pointed out that familial connections aren&#039;t unprecedented in presidential (or congressional or state, etc.) politics in the US. There are surely other connections that are less obvious than shared names. So...if the option is to select someone competent and educated in her own right, who knows her way around US politics at all relevant levels (remembering Bill Clinton&#039;s time as a governor), I&#039;m not bothered by the fact she is married to a former president. In fact, it may give her unique qualifications for the position of president, as First Lady is surely as close to the role of president as is the Vice-President, who is officialy destined to be a replacement if necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take your point, but I agree with others who have pointed out that familial connections aren&#8217;t unprecedented in presidential (or congressional or state, etc.) politics in the US. There are surely other connections that are less obvious than shared names. So&#8230;if the option is to select someone competent and educated in her own right, who knows her way around US politics at all relevant levels (remembering Bill Clinton&#8217;s time as a governor), I&#8217;m not bothered by the fact she is married to a former president. In fact, it may give her unique qualifications for the position of president, as First Lady is surely as close to the role of president as is the Vice-President, who is officialy destined to be a replacement if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Rundle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didnt say Hillary wouldnt be great, Salamander (?). In fact I said that if she had won in 08 against Obama, Hillary would have made a more succesful President if less adventurous. Do read the article before commenting.

As regards &#039;16, I said she would face some problematic attitudes towards ageing, one deep-seated, and one more recent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i didnt say Hillary wouldnt be great, Salamander (?). In fact I said that if she had won in 08 against Obama, Hillary would have made a more succesful President if less adventurous. Do read the article before commenting.</p>
<p>As regards &#8216;16, I said she would face some problematic attitudes towards ageing, one deep-seated, and one more recent.</p>
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		<title>By: Salamander</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229115</link>
		<dc:creator>Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Clinton would be about 2 years younger than Reagan for what it&#039;s worth. In any case, why not break two records at once. Especially if you&#039;re as smart as she is and showing no sign of brain fade (unlike Reagan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Clinton would be about 2 years younger than Reagan for what it&#8217;s worth. In any case, why not break two records at once. Especially if you&#8217;re as smart as she is and showing no sign of brain fade (unlike Reagan).</p>
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		<title>By: owlcode</title>
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		<dc:creator>owlcode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my math is right HC would be sworn in older than Reagan was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my math is right HC would be sworn in older than Reagan was.</p>
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		<title>By: Salamander</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229109</link>
		<dc:creator>Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, spelling - Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, spelling - Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Salamander</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229108</link>
		<dc:creator>Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a log of baloney, Guy. Hilary would be great.  A novice President takes the first term to understand the game. Hilary would be off to a gallop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a log of baloney, Guy. Hilary would be great.  A novice President takes the first term to understand the game. Hilary would be off to a gallop.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian English</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229106</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian English</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misogyny is very good. Thanks bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misogyny is very good. Thanks bro.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Spot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229077</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha..that&#039;s good, very good!.. but wil someone please go to the fridge for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha..that&#8217;s good, very good!.. but wil someone please go to the fridge for me?</p>
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		<title>By: michael r james</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229074</link>
		<dc:creator>michael r james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EJ, floorer &amp; BlackSpot and assorted Crikey reprobates.

If you&#039;re into salacious First Lady jokes I am old enough to remember this Nixon one--for which you need to know that his wife&#039;s name was Patricia, and this was also the era when this  famous movie mainstreamed p0rn.

&quot;Richard Nixon had to watch Deep Throat three times before he got it down pat.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EJ, floorer &amp; BlackSpot and assorted Crikey reprobates.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re into salacious First Lady jokes I am old enough to remember this Nixon one&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;for which you need to know that his wife&#8217;s name was Patricia, and this was also the era when this  famous movie mainstreamed p0rn.</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Richard Nixon had to watch Deep Throat three times before he got it down pat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rasta Masta</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229072</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasta Masta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phfffftt(((((....phfffuuurrr))))), ah, dat better mun.Listen up here Eddy my mun, you gotta chill out ordya gonna bust dat pooper dare. All da politicians are hidin on dat &quot;grassy knoll &quot; and all dem should be a suckin on da weed infstead of f da white mun trash dey are a dishin up evry day and a masqeradin as decent folk.I gotta go ders a white girl waitin for me over on da beech haw haw haw and she a wanna da soosage a sunk. By mun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phfffftt(((((&#8230;.phfffuuurrr))))), ah, dat better mun.Listen up here Eddy my mun, you gotta chill out ordya gonna bust dat pooper dare. All da politicians are hidin on dat &#8220;grassy knoll &#8221; and all dem should be a suckin on da weed infstead of f da white mun trash dey are a dishin up evry day and a masqeradin as decent folk.I gotta go ders a white girl waitin for me over on da beech haw haw haw and she a wanna da soosage a sunk. By mun.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229070</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out google and wasted my time.  Just as it may be a waste of time for anyone wondering who will live to vie for president of the united states in two years time. Edward James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out google and wasted my time.  Just as it may be a waste of time for anyone wondering who will live to vie for president of the united states in two years time. Edward James</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229065</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am aware and weary of those politicians and there supporters who populate the &quot;grassy knoll&quot; Edward James Yes sorry to the Kennedy family</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aware and weary of those politicians and there supporters who populate the &#8220;grassy knoll&#8221; Edward James Yes sorry to the Kennedy family</p>
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		<title>By: Black Spot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229064</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Hillary have crows feet around her eyes? it&#039;s a joke, come on, what&#039;s the answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Hillary have crows feet around her eyes? it&#8217;s a joke, come on, what&#8217;s the answer?</p>
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		<title>By: Black Spot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229063</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr James. There is a politically correct sniper behind every tree here on this discussion board. But my shoulders are broad and I will award you .5 for encouragement at your effort of humour, although it was bad...very bad!..extremely bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr James. There is a politically correct sniper behind every tree here on this discussion board. But my shoulders are broad and I will award you .5 for encouragement at your effort of humour, although it was bad&#8230;very bad!..extremely bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229062</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love that observation floorer. Edward James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that observation floorer. Edward James</p>
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		<title>By: floorer</title>
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		<dc:creator>floorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah EJ, Hillary was giving lip service while Monica wasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah EJ, Hillary was giving lip service while Monica wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229059</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of being offensive to wives everywhere. I must ask every time I see Hillary being promoted in MSM I think what was Monica giving that Hillary was not ? Edward James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being offensive to wives everywhere. I must ask every time I see Hillary being promoted in MSM I think what was Monica giving that Hillary was not ? Edward James</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229054</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course for those who can&#039;t tell the difference between other presidential wives and Hills, well maybe you weren&#039;t watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course for those who can&#8217;t tell the difference between other presidential wives and Hills, well maybe you weren&#8217;t watching.</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229053</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>an article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an article</p>
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		<title>By: Monash.edu</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229052</link>
		<dc:creator>Monash.edu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on, guys — it&#039;s quite possible that both presidential candidates in 2016 will be people that most commenters here have never even heard of. A lot can happen in four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on, guys — it&#8217;s quite possible that both presidential candidates in 2016 will be people that most commenters here have never even heard of. A lot can happen in four years.</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/21/rundle-why-it-has-to-be-hillary-and-why-it-shouldnt-be/comment-page-1/#comment-229050</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya gotta love the way in the 21st century a article on the possibility of the USA&#039;s first female president is discounted because of whom she married.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya gotta love the way in the 21st century a article on the possibility of the USA&#8217;s first female president is discounted because of whom she married.</p>
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