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	<title>Comments on: Abortion underground in Indonesia, where the law is no guide</title>
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		<title>By: lauren blint</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauren blint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I withdraw my point it seems it was a glitch on my display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I withdraw my point it seems it was a glitch on my display.</p>
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		<title>By: lauren blint</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauren blint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so sad, the women Are just stuck in a crappy cycle! I&#039;d like to know why the word rape, is not written properly, it makes it seem like a dirty word. The act is,but treating the discussion of it as taboo, makes it seem like women who have suffered rape should not talk about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so sad, the women Are just stuck in a crappy cycle! I&#8217;d like to know why the word rape, is not written properly, it makes it seem like a dirty word. The act is,but treating the discussion of it as taboo, makes it seem like women who have suffered rape should not talk about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz45</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sauron256 - Where have you been? Haven&#039;t you heard of the Inquiries in several States re young unmarried women who were forced to give up their babies for adoption? Haven&#039;t you heard about the Stolen Generations? 

&lt;i&gt; &#039;It is an aw inspiring force, the iron determination of a woman who refuses to gear a child that she knows she cannot mother&#039;. &lt;/i&gt;

Nobody else has the right to judge or question her decision. My first response was to wonder why she had to proceed with the pregnancy to that stage; why it wasn&#039;t carried out in a hospital much earlier and if so, why she wasn&#039;t kept there until the procedure was over? 

Every 11 minutes, somewhere in the world, a woman dies from either a complicated pregnancy and/or birth; an abortion or some other gynecological/obstetric problem.  That&#039;s an awful statistic. I&#039;ve been at my computer for over an hour - that&#039;s at least 6 women who&#039;ve died! A child dies every 30 seconds or so - we should be moved by that disgraceful statistic also! It&#039;s not that there&#039;s not enough money, it&#039;s all part of the attitude to women - as opposed to that by decision makers re weapons that kill heaps of them in one go!

In my opinion, we should be advocating the right of women to have autonomy over their fertility and have safe health systems in place to care for them, including abortions. There should also be more money on contraception; education to both males and females about sexual responsibility and most important, education for young people about respectful relationships! 

There&#039;s a book entitled &#039;Lost&#039; which includes the stories of women in the past (in Australia)who were forced to backyard abortionists. I was shocked, sickened by the lack of responsibility of too many men, medical people etc, and filled with sad awe for the lengths women went to when confronting an unwanted pregnancy! I suggest you read it!It has broadened my knowledge, and given me insight into this awful dilemma that too many women have to face.

I also ask you to reflect on the fact, that men are always &#039;let off the hook&#039; in these matters. This should discontinue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sauron256 - Where have you been? Haven&#8217;t you heard of the Inquiries in several States re young unmarried women who were forced to give up their babies for adoption? Haven&#8217;t you heard about the Stolen Generations? </p>
<p><i> <span class="quo">&#8216;</span>It is an aw inspiring force, the iron determination of a woman who refuses to gear a child that she knows she cannot mother&#8217;. </i></p>
<p>Nobody else has the right to judge or question her decision. My first response was to wonder why she had to proceed with the pregnancy to that stage; why it wasn&#8217;t carried out in a hospital much earlier and if so, why she wasn&#8217;t kept there until the procedure was over? </p>
<p>Every 11 minutes, somewhere in the world, a woman dies from either a complicated pregnancy and/or birth; an abortion or some other gynecological/obstetric problem.  That&#8217;s an awful statistic. I&#8217;ve been at my computer for over an hour - that&#8217;s at least 6 women who&#8217;ve died! A child dies every 30 seconds or so - we should be moved by that disgraceful statistic also! It&#8217;s not that there&#8217;s not enough money, it&#8217;s all part of the attitude to women - as opposed to that by decision makers re weapons that kill heaps of them in one go!</p>
<p>In my opinion, we should be advocating the right of women to have autonomy over their fertility and have safe health systems in place to care for them, including abortions. There should also be more money on contraception; education to both males and females about sexual responsibility and most important, education for young people about respectful relationships! </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a book entitled &#8216;Lost&#8217; which includes the stories of women in the past (in Australia)who were forced to backyard abortionists. I was shocked, sickened by the lack of responsibility of too many men, medical people etc, and filled with sad awe for the lengths women went to when confronting an unwanted pregnancy! I suggest you read it!It has broadened my knowledge, and given me insight into this awful dilemma that too many women have to face.</p>
<p>I also ask you to reflect on the fact, that men are always &#8216;let off the hook&#8217; in these matters. This should discontinue!</p>
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		<title>By: sauron256</title>
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		<dc:creator>sauron256</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no happy ending to an unwanted pregnancy.&quot;

What a curious statement. Is there no chance that the parents might come to love the child once it is born? Or that adoption can never lead to happiness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>There is no happy ending to an unwanted pregnancy.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a curious statement. Is there no chance that the parents might come to love the child once it is born? Or that adoption can never lead to happiness?</p>
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		<title>By: sauron256</title>
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		<dc:creator>sauron256</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the account of the death of a baby girl, the last few moments of its life struggling to breathe, is horribly upsetting. Is the author of this article advocating that this practice is increased? Or advocating that the child is killed first so the mother doesn&#039;t have to watch the death (and would that make it OK)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the account of the death of a baby girl, the last few moments of its life struggling to breathe, is horribly upsetting. Is the author of this article advocating that this practice is increased? Or advocating that the child is killed first so the mother doesn&#8217;t have to watch the death (and would that make it OK)?</p>
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		<title>By: Clytie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clytie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no happy ending to an unwanted pregnancy. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no happy ending to an unwanted pregnancy. <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-sad.png' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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