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Swedish Q&A: do Assange’s claims on extradition stack up?

There’s been plenty of commentary in Australia and the UK about the likelihood and legality of Sweden extraditing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the US, should it secure his extradition from the UK for questioning on s-xual misconduct allegations. So what do the Swedes say? Crikey puts some questions to Mark Klamberg, doctor in public international law at Stockholm University …

Why can’t Swedish authorities go to London to question Assange?

Swedish authorities can ask for legal assistance from the UK, which would mean they could go to London to ask questions, subject to UK law. However, it is under the discretion of the prosecutor responsible for the case to determine whether she should ask for such assistance, or ask for surrender under the European Arrest Warrant Procedure.

The Swedish prosecutor is arguing they need to have the interview in Sweden because they may need to do several interviews and cross-check with the victims. It is not generally the case that Swedish prosecutors travel to the preferred place of the suspect, i.e. it is not up to the suspect to dictate how an investigation should be carried out. Moreover, as indicated above, if Assange was in the custody of British authorities he could be subject to coercive measures (under UK law), but that is more difficult/impossible when he is in the embassy, i.e. the prosecution will not be able to control the interview to the same extent as they normally do.

Would it be easier for the US to extradite Assange from Sweden than from the UK?

No, for several reasons. First, Sweden and the UK both have bilateral extradition treaties vis-à-vis the US. The UK is able to extradite people to the US under similar conditions as Sweden, and has done so.

Second, the UK as well as Sweden are parties to the European Convention of Human Rights. Following the landmark judgment called Soering from 1989, both Sweden and UK are prohibited to extradite somebody who can be put on death row and/or be subjected to torture (which includes inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment).

Third, the Swedish extradition agreement with the US (you can read the 1961 agreement in Swedish or English here, and read the 1984 supplementary convention here) does not allow extradition when the offence is purely military or if the offence is a political offence. For example, espionage is a political crime and no extradition is possible for such charges. Fourth and finally, if Assange were to be extradited to Sweden and if the US then requested extradition from Sweden, such a request would have to be approved by Sweden as well as by the UK. This would require an approval by the Swedish Supreme Court and government. The government cannot approve extradition if it’s denied by the Supreme Court.

Pursuant to the rule of speciality and the regulations concerning a European Arrest Warrant, the decision to extradite Assange to Sweden for allegations concerning r-pe and s-xual misconduct is not enough, the UK Home Secretary has to make a second decision concerning the US charges (for example espionage), subject to UK law.

As I understand it, Ecuador has granted Assange political asylum, i.e. Ecuador is arguing that the US is seeking Assange for a political offence (espionage). Moreover, they fear that Assange will be subject to the death penalty and/or torture. As explained above, extradition from Sweden would for several reasons not be granted in such a case.

It is theoretically possible that i) the US might charge Assange for an other (non-political) crime than espionage and that ii) the US would be willing to issue a guarantee that the death penalty will not be issued. The latter has happened before — see for example the aftermath of the Soering case. Could Sweden extradite Assange in such a case? The answer is yes provided that the UK also approves, but I have great difficulties to see what kind of non-political crime that would be.

Is Sweden “US-friendly”, and would it be more likely to do the US’ wishes than the UK?

In the diplomatic cables made available by WikiLeaks, the US embassy in Stockholm describes the current Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs Carl Bildt as a “medium size dog with big dog attitude”, meaning someone who thinks he has more power and influence than he really has. Sweden has good relations to the US, probably close to or equivalent to US relations to the UK and Australia. However, Sweden as a country has a  history of opposing some of the US military interventions abroad, for example the Iraq war in 2003 and the Vietnam war (our prime minister compared the 1972 bombing of Hanoi with the extermination of Jews at Treblinka, which was probably the low point of Swedish-US relations).

In the context of the Assange case, many point to the rendition in 2001 of two Egyptians from Sweden to Egypt, apparently following a request from the CIA. The transport was also carried out by the same agency. It is perceived as one of the largest scandals in modern Swedish history. The UN Committee Against Torture issued a decision where it established that Sweden as a state had violated its obligations under the torture convention. The constitution committee of the parliament (Konstitutionsutskottet) found the government had violated Swedish law. The Swedish state compensated both of the men with 3 million krona (€350,000) each. At least one of them was granted permanent residence in Sweden (which he has applied for).I would argue the Assange case is different because the two Egyptians were subject to an entirely extra-judicial procedure, while Assange has been given several legal remedies and guarantees in Sweden and the UK, which he has used. There are also examples where persons sought by US authorities have been granted protection in Sweden.

During the Vietnam War, many US military servicemen who had deserted sought refuge in Sweden; this was granted even though US authorities sought prosecution for these servicemen. The reason the US has not sought or been granted extradition for these servicemen is that the Swedish-US extradition treaty does not allow extradition when the offence is purely military (or political), as indicated above.

What is the nature of the Swedish-US extradition treaty?

See answers above. One may add that several persons have raised concerns in relation to the “temporary surrender” procedure in the Swedish-US extradition treaty. “Temporary surrender” should not be interpreted as “immediate surrender without legal protection”, as some people appear to do. The purpose of “temporary surrender”, which exists in the Swedish as well as in the British agreements with the US, is to temporarily surrender a person to another state and, after the proceedings in the requesting state has been finished, the person will return to the requested state (Sweden or the UK).

The difference between “temporary surrender” and “normal surrender” is that with the latter procedure, the person will not return to the requested state (Sweden or UK). In all other regards, the same conditions apply, i.e. no extradition for political crime and no extradition if there is a risk for torture/death penalty.

*For more information and to see some of the debate in Sweden, read this blog post from Klamberg. If your Swedish is up to it, there’s an interesting blog post from fellow Stockholm University academic Pal Wrange. Assange ater igen, indeed.

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  • 1
    Liz45
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    I still wouldn’t like to take the risk if I was Julian Assange! His legal team who are more in tune with things? than I am obviously think so too! Geoffrey Robertson is a Human Rights Lawyer, where I’m not even a lawyer of any kind. The Spanish barrister is also more experienced too. I’d go with their advice. The past history of the US re renditions etc is pretty strong. They seem to get their way too often! They could again! Wouldn’t be the first time they’ve ‘leaned’ on people from other governments. Why stop now?

  • 2
    zut alors
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    A most informative piece. More of this type of journalism please, Crikey.

  • 3
    muruk
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    If what Mark Klamberg says is true, then Julian Assange has nothing to fear from the US, via Sweden, and my faith in Swedish justice has been restored. But it could well be pro-government spin designed to fool and then entrap Julian Assange. I doubt there is anywhere on this earth today where any government deserves to be trusted, even one with a prior history of excellence in human rights. On balance, regardless of what Mark Klamberg has said and the truth of it, Julian Assange is better off treating it as a ploy to entrap him.

  • 4
    Guy Rundle
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    A pretty establishment view of the issue, presented there, by an impeccably credentialled member of the Swedish establishment. A few issues:

    1) No-one has suggested that it would be easier for the US to extradite Assange from Sweden than from the UK, per se. But if Assange had not been pinged with an arrest warrant by the Swedes, he would be free to move around the world to a place of greater safety from the US. Since Sweden tends to hold those being questioned for felonies - with a view to indictment - on remand, the combination of that, and the ‘temporary surrender’ provisions, make for a pretty effective trap.

    2) Klamberg’s portrayal of the reaction to rendition of Swedish citizens in 2001 is a bit of Swedish self-flattery. But if he’s going to raise it, why not mention that the justice minister who authorised it, Tomas Bodstrom, is now the law partner of Claes Borgstrom, who is now representing the two women on whose behalf the prosecutors are pursuing Assange. Is it not also worth mentioning that Borgstrom (and Bodstrom) only became involved when the case was thrown out by Stockholm prosecutor Eva Finne, and was appealed to another prosecutor?

    3) Klamberg’s portrayal of Swedish-US relations is also disingenuous. Yes, Sweden was a major moral voice in many circumstances up to the 1980s. But that was under left social democratic governments. A thoroughly pro-american right wing government is now in power, and the right within the opposition social democratic party is now eager to end Sweden’s official neutrality. Sweden is part of the coalition of forces in Afghanistan, and has a great desire for intelligence sharing with the US - which gthe US has previously threatened to withdraw if Assange and Wikileaks were granted journalistic protection in the country.

    4) the fact that extradition from a Swedish cell to a US one would require the permission of the UK home secretary is irrelevant. It is clear that this would be easily given by home secretaries of the both major parties.

    5) Philip Dorling’s recent report on the Australian government’s knowledge of US intent to get Assange shows that the US is considering charges of computer fraud - which would satisfy the conditions of a non-political crime. Other charges could be added. The death penalty may well be taken off the table but a) a federal government can never guarantee a court sentence - three Mexican citizens have been executed so far despite govt guarantees that no execution would take place, and b) the threat of a forty year jail sentence in a ‘supermax’ prison with permanent solitary confinement is akin to a death sentence as a strategy to terrify.

    In general, if you want to know how Sweden works, the last person to ask is a Swede, especially someone at the centre of the duckpond…..

  • 5
    wmmbb
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    The Swedes might consider acting in the interest of justice. Both “victims” and “suspect” are entitled to a speedy trial. The “suspect” could have been prevented in September 2010 from leaving Sweden.It is not clear why “coercive measures” would be required in questioning the suspect, or indeed if such questioning is a precondition to charging the suspect, as it might be, then why it would be necessary to cross check with the victims before laying charges. Furthermore, since extradition is a decision to be made by the government, given the context created by the grant of political asylum, why a guarantee can not be given in this instance to serve the greater purposes. The fact that this has no happened inclines toward the conspiracy theory as the more cogent explanation.

  • 6
    Liz45
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    @GUY - I’ve read similar information to what you’ve posted here Guy. As I said earlier, if I was Julian Assange I wouldn’t take the risk?

    Perhaps you know why other media outlets who also printed or shown Wikileaks information/videos etc haven’t even been mentioned? Is it because they have too much power? Or being in the US they’d plead freedom of speech etc? What’s different about this situation and that of Daniel Elsberg for instance? I’m intrigued why the Australian Govt hasn’t even ‘slapped’ Australian media outlets for printing said information?

  • 7
    Michael Fink
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Great article, and a fascinating response from Rundle. Journalism and discussion like this is why I recently subscribed for another two years.

  • 8
    Mike Smith
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    It sounds reasonable. But were I Sweden’s legal team, I’d take the pragmatic approach, do the interviews in the Ecuador embassy in the UK and take it from there. Given the publicity, don’t even try doing it in-camera.

    Very good interview/article, by the way.

  • 9
    puddleduck
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Interesting piece - and thanks Crikey for Guy’s response. I was hoping for it, even as I read through.

    Unlike Muruk, my “faith in Swedish justice” has not been restored. First, because as Guy says, it’s a very establishment view, based on everyone behaving well and politics having little sway, when we know this is a very political case. Second, the piece says nothing about the operation of the Swedish domestic legal system, pursuant to which Assange would be imprisoned for questioning.

    The writers state that “Assange has been given several legal remedies and guarantees in Sweden and the UK, which he has used.” What legal remedies and guarantees has Assange had access to in Sweden? As far as I know, he’s been treated very shabbily in Sweden, for example when his name was leaked to the press. He’s been cooperative to a fault.

    Nice try, Sweden, but we ain’t buying.

  • 10
    kennethrobinson2
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    The most dangerous country for Assange, would be Australia, our mob would even “DELIVER” him

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    puddleduck
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    It’s not the first time this song has come to mind…

    Abba - On and On

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyxBYbfu6k8

    See, Abba were really subversives in their later career. Have you ever seen Agneta and Assange in the same place at the same time? No!

  • 12
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Thanx Guy.

  • 13
    paddy
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Dog bless the Internet. Where, at its best, the comments can sometimes be more informative than the original article.
    That’s two good pieces in a day GR.
    They should give you a raise. (Or at least pick up the bar tab in Tampa.)

  • 14
    Warren Joffe
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Indeed well said Guy Rundle. Mention of “computer crime” as a way of getting him is a reminder that Australia has failed miserably to protect Australians from extradition where, if there is a crime, justice demands that it be tried in an Australian’s home country, especially if he has not allegedly committed the crime in the foreign country while physically there.

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    Mike Smith
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    @Warren: yes, I was thinking of this case whilst commenting on the other thread. This one is even more complex because there’s an alleged crime/misdemeanor committed in yet another country. In this case, the Wiki aspects certainly could be tried here. Assuming there’s a crime involved in them, which I doubt. (BTW, IANAL)

  • 16
    L Tony
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Good article and interesting comments by Guy.

    I believe that Mark has provided the readers with some interesting points and we will see who is right.

    There are also comments online by the “2 ladies” for example on twitter and did they believe it was going to come to this?

  • 17
    Bob the builder
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    FFS what’s this shite?
    This rubbish is everywhere, why did Crikey need to re-hash it?
    …I can’t even be bothered to…. yeah, can’t be bothered

  • 18
    Jeremy Dore
    Posted Friday, 24 August 2012 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Cathy and Guy - Crikey’s coverage of Assange has been outstanding.

  • 19
    achimova1
    Posted Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    Just watched Assange on democracynow.org. He’s certainly got b-lls, given the stress he has been under. The Brits are doing a great job of keeping the issue up front in the news. Thanks Guy and Crikey - our government continues to be predictably inert.

  • 20
    Schnooks
    Posted Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Does Rundle know Lamberg or is that just a generalised insult against anyone in the legal profession in Sweden? This piece is an important counter to Greenwald’s piece in the Guardian which used Lamberg’s blog article to contend the opposite conclusion to Lamberg’s own. But of course when people cite legal opinion that supports Assange’s demands to be put above the laws and constitution of Sweden, then they are no longer establishment mouthpieces but brave freedom fighters. Poor Lamberg went from being lauded to demonised overnight simply for examining the issues in law and publishing a legal opinion.

    It’s rubbish to say that no one has contended that extradition is more likely from Sweden, that has been a key platform of most pieces asserting that is totes fine for Assange to skip bail and demand he be given a blanket immunity from any extradition treaty. Rundle himself may not have used that argument but, strange to say, he isn’t the alpha and omega of left commentary on this matter.

    The important part of Lamberg’s blog piece was his conclusion that the Swedish government cannot issue a guarantee against any future extradition orders as it would be unconstitutional.

  • 21
    izatso?
    Posted Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    good o the Swedish Guv, and all who move the Goalposts to suit. on one leg. admirable. now fling me a jig ….!

  • 22
    izatso?
    Posted Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    ….. and the lyrics …… The Swedish media war on Assange:
    http://www.friatider.se/the-swedish-media-war-on-assange

  • 23
    Mack the Knife
    Posted Sunday, 26 August 2012 at 5:51 am | Permalink

    Love how the Yanks upgrade with “Serious Assault allegations”.

    Lost in the swill is the fact that Assange and others have been all interviewed previously and that the Swedish prosecution service found no case to answer for.

    Only the ex CIA Swedish prosecutor wants to (only) ask questions.

  • 24
    Liz45
    Posted Sunday, 26 August 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    The Assistant Secretary of State (US) was interviewed only a couple of days ago, and even though she was asked the question at least three times, she refused to give a NO, re the US’s intentions about Julian Assange? Read between the lines? “Not at this time” or other such responses doesn’t fill anyone with confidence - they’re just playing us as fools - again!

    Honestly,it gets pretty tiresome - we all know their MO, and it’s as blatant and glaring as udders on a cow! They insult our intelligence! I remember all the lies by the Howard govt re David Hicks and Mandouh Habib! And more recently, Dr Haneef? Even the federal Prosecutor allegedly went to court and lied? If not for his solicitor sending transcripts of his AFP interviews to the SMH, that young man would probably be in Goulburn Jail now, in maximum security - that’s if he hadn’t done himself an awful injury??? They think we’re stupid innocents, who are gullible and star struck by their importance??? Not I, she said!

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    Hunt Ian
    Posted Sunday, 26 August 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Ian Hunt
    Mark Klamberg still leaves me with the feeling that too little warrants the Swedish arrest warrant to justify the measures taken by the UK government over a request for questioning over actions that could not count as offences under UK law. We are told that Assange is not entitled to dictate how he is interviewed. Well, the fact is a Swedish prosecutor could travel to London to question Assange, still cross check with the witnesses, and still conduct several interviews and still put a case to a Swedish court as to whether Assange should be charged with some offence. All of this would be consistent with the Swedish prosecutor’s recognition that Assange is not entitled to demand this. It would, however, get the job done.

    Klamberg does not tell us whether the matter could be dealt with in absentia. If this were done and I were Assange’s council, I would argue that there is no case to answer, since his actions could hardly be wilful disregard of what the women wanted rather than some casual negligence that happens all the time in sexual relations, given what the women themselves have said. This is presumably why the first prosecutor decided not to proceed, leading an appeal to another prosecutor, which again is too startlingly out of all proportion to what happened.

    Assange may not be the world’s most modest man, and might from time to time show some careless sexual enthusiasm, but what is happening is so out of all proportion to what on the face of it happened, that one cannot but suppose that something else is at work and Assange is in deep danger. Klamberg’s assurances don’t deal with that fundamental problem.

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    AR
    Posted Sunday, 26 August 2012 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Wot Guy said at #3 & 4 - the current Swedish government is very different from those of previous generations. Methinks they Swedes will awaken from this raving right interregnum but, were I Assange, I wouldn’t risk a nordic interlude in the meantime.

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    Hugh (Charlie) McColl
    Posted Monday, 27 August 2012 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Liz45, hate to be pedantic but a cow only has one udder. The four (or more) things sticking out of the udder? Well, they’re something else again.

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    Liz45
    Posted Monday, 27 August 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    @HUGH - OK! Point taken!

    What really annoys me, saddens me?? about this whole situation is how it makes a serious crime like sexual assault into a minor issue to argue over etc. The allegations against Assange have nothing to do with these sorts of horrific crimes of violence and control! They have nothing to do with s*x but everything to do with control, hatred and violence - not to mention the worst method this sorts of perpetrators think to demean women (or men for that matter?).

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    Thomas Millett
    Posted Tuesday, 28 August 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    best of Assange” I will be signing up for Crikey yet again.
    Julien, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
    Place not your faith in princes. STAY PUT!!!!!

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