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	<title>Comments on: The flight from Fairfax: who&#8217;s leaving the building?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Reeves</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-219839</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone looked at the Herald lately? Seems a tad lighter, shorter with significantly less substance. Wonder why? At least David Astle still has a job (I think&gt;&gt;) When Crikey starts producing a decent crossword I will be able to ditch the Herald altogether!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone looked at the Herald lately? Seems a tad lighter, shorter with significantly less substance. Wonder why? At least David Astle still has a job (I think&gt;&gt;) When Crikey starts producing a decent crossword I will be able to ditch the Herald altogether!</p>
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		<title>By: Elbow Patches</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-219021</link>
		<dc:creator>Elbow Patches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Claire the loss of the puns has been a punishment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Claire the loss of the puns has been a punishment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218478</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former (Fairfax, etc.) sub-editor, I&#039;d like to make the point that a high proportion of any publication&#039;s quality is due to good subbing. Subs write the headlines and other &quot;furniture&quot;; they also spare the blushes of the poor writers (of whom there are a surprising number, even on top newspapers) by skilful editing.

Production journalists have always been first in the firing line because the bean-counters don&#039;t appreciate their importance - so if you have found yourself wondering why your favourite writer suddenly seems to be producing convoluted phrases containing factual, spelling and/or grammatical errors, that&#039;s why.

While on the subject, I&#039;d also like to lament the online death of the clever headline. It&#039;s all about SEO these days, leaving little or no leeway for those delightful puns we&#039;ve all relished over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former (Fairfax, etc.) sub-editor, I&#8217;d like to make the point that a high proportion of any publication&#8217;s quality is due to good subbing. Subs write the headlines and other &#8220;furniture&#8221;; they also spare the blushes of the poor writers (of whom there are a surprising number, even on top newspapers) by skilful editing.</p>
<p>Production journalists have always been first in the firing line because the bean-counters don&#8217;t appreciate their importance - so if you have found yourself wondering why your favourite writer suddenly seems to be producing convoluted phrases containing factual, spelling and/or grammatical errors, that&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>While on the subject, I&#8217;d also like to lament the online death of the clever headline. It&#8217;s all about SEO these days, leaving little or no leeway for those delightful puns we&#8217;ve all relished over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Allamanda 14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allamanda 14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of Brisbane, where the only printed local daily is the Courier Mail (say no more), I am saddened and disappointed to see the departure of so many quality journalists from the SMH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of Brisbane, where the only printed local daily is the Courier Mail (say no more), I am saddened and disappointed to see the departure of so many quality journalists from the SMH.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218293</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only one of the SMH crew I&#039;ll miss is Doug Anderson. We shall not see his like again, I fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only one of the SMH crew I&#8217;ll miss is Doug Anderson. We shall not see his like again, I fear.</p>
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		<title>By: 3217</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218226</link>
		<dc:creator>3217</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The loss of so much talent is very hard to bear. I am an old pensioner who enjoys his daily &quot;Hit&quot; with the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. I simply do not have the financial resources to buy the paper editions. 

But, if it meant that these good people could continue in employment I would scrounge the money from somewhere to pay for the quality journalism I have always enjoyed (and not always agreed with!) 

I was thrown on the scrap heap during the banana republic recession we had to have and know what hardship is, and the price I&#039;ve had to pay for being bored to tears without employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loss of so much talent is very hard to bear. I am an old pensioner who enjoys his daily &#8220;Hit&#8221; with the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. I simply do not have the financial resources to buy the paper editions. </p>
<p>But, if it meant that these good people could continue in employment I would scrounge the money from somewhere to pay for the quality journalism I have always enjoyed (and not always agreed with!) </p>
<p>I was thrown on the scrap heap during the banana republic recession we had to have and know what hardship is, and the price I&#8217;ve had to pay for being bored to tears without employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Tedesco</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218186</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto Tedesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that the SMH didn&#039;t see fit to get rid of Sheehan and Henderson...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that the SMH didn&#8217;t see fit to get rid of Sheehan and Henderson&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arty</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218137</link>
		<dc:creator>Arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been assuming that I will succumb to the offer of the electronic SMH for some to-be-defined payment.

But I would like to see the list of people who will be left to produce the all new smaller SMH.

I would also like to know how many of the departed will be invited to sometimes produce copy for the SMH providing they have an ABN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been assuming that I will succumb to the offer of the electronic SMH for some to-be-defined payment.</p>
<p>But I would like to see the list of people who will be left to produce the all new smaller SMH.</p>
<p>I would also like to know how many of the departed will be invited to sometimes produce copy for the SMH providing they have an ABN.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Hirsh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218128</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Hirsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is leaving! What will the paper look like? I suppose Amanda bloody vanstone will keep writing for the Age. Perhaps they could get Gina Reinhart to do a column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is leaving! What will the paper look like? I suppose Amanda bloody vanstone will keep writing for the Age. Perhaps they could get Gina Reinhart to do a column.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218122</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked by this loss of  talent at The Age newspaper. I dread what this will do to the product. Shaun Carney, Jo Chandler, are huge losses in particular. I also hope that there is an alternative developed- there is a wealth of great journalists and writers who could form an independent media outlet. I doubt that will be in print, unfortunately. Crikey in its present form does not really provide that alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked by this loss of  talent at The Age newspaper. I dread what this will do to the product. Shaun Carney, Jo Chandler, are huge losses in particular. I also hope that there is an alternative developed- there is a wealth of great journalists and writers who could form an independent media outlet. I doubt that will be in print, unfortunately. Crikey in its present form does not really provide that alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/14/the-flight-from-fairfax-whos-leaving-the-building/comment-page-1/#comment-218078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it time for a professional journalist led news cooperative? There is the medium. There are the experiments [&quot;Crickey&quot; for mine is actually a weekly with daily updates] that provide lessons. There is the reader demand away from the ludicrously self-important and Fox News-like bias of the &quot;Australian&quot;, the relative success of the opinion pages on the net, the willingness of people to source their news &amp; opinion from the web, the need for the ascendancy of professional news gatherers to offset the loony element on the net, and the role of social media [not FB though] in highlighting news. I wouldn&#039;t pay for the online versions of the newspapers [it&#039;s still more prefeable in my view to read hard copy of the paper on the loo and it doesn&#039;t break if you drop it on the floor] but I might look at paying for such a collective [I do for Crikey]. Just some thoughts....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it time for a professional journalist led news cooperative? There is the medium. There are the experiments [&#8220;Crickey&#8221; for mine is actually a weekly with daily updates] that provide lessons. There is the reader demand away from the ludicrously self-important and Fox News-like bias of the &#8220;Australian&#8221;, the relative success of the opinion pages on the net, the willingness of people to source their news &amp; opinion from the web, the need for the ascendancy of professional news gatherers to offset the loony element on the net, and the role of social media [not FB though] in highlighting news. I wouldn&#8217;t pay for the online versions of the newspapers [it&#8217;s still more prefeable in my view to read hard copy of the paper on the loo and it doesn&#8217;t break if you drop it on the floor] but I might look at paying for such a collective [I do for Crikey]. Just some thoughts&#8230;.</p>
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