Comments on: Monckton threatens to sue ABC, calls chairman a ‘shrimp’

By: Meski

Meski — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:14:37 +0000

@Peter: Or more likely a bad case of crabs.

By: Rich Uncle Skeleton

Rich Uncle Skeleton — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:44:44 +0000

Monckton won't take part in written debates where his science can be checked. It's very easy to stand on a podium and tell lots of lies because nobody has the time to check them. This is why science is done in the scientific literature and not in public debates, and this is why Monckton has never been published in the scientific literature.

By: steeleye

steeleye — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:41:33 +0000

OK johnfromplanet earth, perhaps some of the comments here about the good lord have got a little barbed. However, perhaps you should remember that they were prompted by his referring to the chairman of the ABC (who I would normally be reluctant to defend) as a ‘shrimp-like wet little individual’. Are you implying that such derogatory comments are acceptable when made by Monkton, who is indubitably not of the left? If so, why?

Secondly, you have fallen into the common trap of assuming that everyone who disagrees with Monkton, and I am guessing you, is necessarily of ‘the left’, whatever that hackneyed old term means these days. I do volunteer work with a very spry 80 year-old great-gran who firmly believes that humans are having an impact on climate change. If you tried telling her that she was of ‘the left’ she would verbally hack you off at the knees.

By: Godotcab

Godotcab — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:01:25 +0000

When there are bleats for “The other side of the debate”, I say wheel out Viscount Monckton every time. Call him a Lord if that’s what it takes to make him perform.

We couldn’t concoct a more farcical figure to discredit the denialists.

By: Peter Ormonde

Peter Ormonde — Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:08:56 +0000

Actually last time I looked prawns, shrimp and all the other crustacea had bulbous eyes on stalks… something to do with shedding an exoskeleton …or maybe like Prince Monckton they had thyroid problems as well … either way it’s the pot calling the kettle black methinks.

What’s the betting this fella had a crustacean nickname at Harrow…

By: wothers

wothers — Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:59:31 +0000

What’s Monckton got against crustaceans? After Prof Abraham from StThomas University criticised one of Monckton’s presentations, he said he looked like an overcooked prawn.

This guy is like Walter Mitty on steroids - the sooner he takes his pith helmet and goes back to the UK, the better.

By: Johnfromplanetearth

Johnfromplanetearth — Sat, 23 Jul 2011 04:28:11 +0000

Reading all of this crap above just proves once again how vicious, cruel and ignorantly stupid people on the left really are. Insults in any argument are always the last resort of those who no longer have a rational one. It is far easier to mock and insult Monckton than actaully challenge his view with debate? Has anyone ever noticed that Al Gore was very shy when it came to debates?

By: steeleye

steeleye — Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:06:54 +0000

What I find most bizarre about the climate deniers regularly rolling out Lord Twitfeatures to present their case is why would they waste their money on someone who is so obviously a charlatan/nutter/liar/* (* insert libellous label here). Can they not find anyone more convincing? Do they think that Australians are going to find a foreign ‘Lord’ more credible than working scientists because he insists on using a pompous and anachronystic title? There is, of course, a much more likely possibility: Lord T is actually a climate change believer who is convincingly sabotaging the denialists ‘case’.

By: davidk

davidk — Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:29:35 +0000

“A shrimp-like wet individual”
A bit rich coming from a beligerant bug-eyed buffoon.

By: Peter Ormonde

Peter Ormonde — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:44:35 +0000

Actually I think Archduke Monckton is a real asset to the climate change case. I think it is wonderfully apt and fitting that Tony Abbott and Alan Jones should seek to elevate him to a spokesman and intellectual inspiration.

A modern day Leonardo, the loony lord has cured MS, HIV and Graves Disease and a few others in his spare time while fighting the satanic conspiracy to foist world government on us all via climate nonsense.

Really quite bizarre this stuff… have a look at his official bio set out in his little UK Independence party …http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1675-christopher-a-man-of-many-talents. The man’s talents are not many, they are unlimited … Lord Walter Mitty more like.

Seriously unhinged and delusional at best, his obvious illness doesn’t mean he’s not a menace though. Remember Hitler was considered as just another quaint (if useful) eccentric as well for a while by Europe’s royals and their corporate mates.

Like I said, a totally apt and fitting messiah for Alan and Tony. Gilbert and Sullivan could script a better one.

By: zut alors

zut alors — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:40:36 +0000

Has Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling been here for only a month? It seems so much longer.

By: A D

A D — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:10:10 +0000

yes please rewrite this article as Mr Monkton.

By: kevrenor

kevrenor — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:07:26 +0000

Why are younger Australians (and some of my fellow fogies) today so lacking in our old spirit?

Chris ‘Viscount’ Monckton is:

1. English (a Pom)
2. An aristocrat
3. A politician (official organisational role with UK Independence Party)
4. A journalist

It wouldn’t have taken even those 4 ‘strikes’ to tell him to ‘piss off’ in my day

By: Murdo Macleod

Murdo Macleod — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:46:06 +0000

There is a grand tradition of those with dubious claims using litigation, and the threat of litigation, as a means of gagging debate. It often comes with significant wealth and a poor arguement to defend, as Gina and her colleagues in the mining industry (and others in WA such as Norm Carey) can attest.

By: C@tmomma

C@tmomma — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:37:57 +0000

Oh gawd, is that pusillanimous individual still here? Could someone put him on a Slow Boat to China? One powered by dirty, smelling, pollution-emitting diesel.

By: ggm

ggm — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:34:27 +0000

he looks like Marty Feldman because they both had Graves Disease. Unlike Marty Feldman, he appears to have no sense of humour.

By: CHRISTOPHER DUNNE

CHRISTOPHER DUNNE — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:07:12 +0000

It’s a pointless exercise to even imagine using facts, logic and reason would count for anything in a contest with a vaudeville act of this supreme unctuousness, but let’s try it on just one of the things he said in his ‘debate’ with Richard Denniss: polar bears evolved from brown bears, and being mammals will love it getting warmer (or words to that effect).

Fact: polar bears hunt on sea ice, and their diet is mainly seals.
Fact: during the melt ie summer months, their food intake dramatically plunges.
Fact: Ice melts are growing in range and duration.
Fact: Polar bears have been tracked swimming longer and longer distance due to lack of ice, often losing cubs which cannot endure this.

So, in fact, polar bears are suffering due to climate change and their numbers will plummet if it continues.

But in the moment of his ‘show’, this outrageously erroneous statement was not even contested, because he is not there to discuss facts.

Oily git.

By: Dave Sag

Dave Sag — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:01:09 +0000

Andrew the problem is that, in a debate format, lies are hard to counter. Monckton can make claims like saying the IPCC reports were written by one man, or that the world is not in fact (which is of course bullshit) but if you call him a liar he effectively wins the argument by default. It brings the debate down to a sort of “is, isn’t, is, isn’t” spectacle.

By: Andrew McIntosh

Andrew McIntosh — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:49:07 +0000

If the science is really so inconclusive why can’t the doubters get some real scientists to come and argue this case? Just how deficient is their case that they can’t get any one, or any group of people, with actual scientific substance and public credibility to defend it? The fact that Monckton is the best the doubters can get in this country, to the point where the AMEC are prepared to pay money for his tour, speaks absolute volumes.

By: Microseris

Microseris — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:36:32 +0000

Monckton is representative of the standard of the denial position.

Check out Hungry Beast video on Gina Reinhart. Talk about a greedy, pitiful individual. Even her own Dad concluded as much.

By: AR

AR — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:17:20 +0000

Mike - they are called “slap writs”.

By: Tom McLoughlin

Tom McLoughlin — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:07:00 +0000

And what a cracking Background Briefing it was too. Cured HIV and malaria apparently, or rather that claim sounds “barking mad” to quote the good Lord referring to his own said claim. All very confusing.

By: gregb

gregb — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:57:59 +0000

StephW, you jest, surely? Gina does not try to influence public policy in Australia? Please.

By: Liamj

Liamj — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:43:48 +0000

Its cruel making fun of Monkton, dementia is a terrible condition.

By: Gibbot

Gibbot — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:28:42 +0000

@ Dave Sag - Good article. You know you’re on a winner when they come crawling out of the woodwork, bleating ‘IT’S TEH ECONOMIES!!’

As for Monckton, I’ve also have the pleasure of witnessing a performance. He is the Phar Lap of Gish Gallops.