Essential: Liberal voters unhappy with outcome — really unhappy
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The Coalition has slightly strengthened its primary vote to pull the parties back to level pegging on two-party preferred support, compared to 51:49 last week, according to today’s Essential Research poll. Labor has received no bounce from its success in negotiating a deal to retain government, with parties at the same levels of support as they have been since the last weeks of the election. Essential also asked a series of questions about how voters viewed last week’s outcome. On how the parties had performed since the election, voters gave the edge to the Coalition (despite, apparently, the costings debacle): 41% saying good, compared to 38% saying Labor had performed well, and 28% saying the Greens had performed well. About 27% said the independents had performed well, with 42% declaring they had performed poorly. But Julia Gillard had a large margin over Tony Abbott on which had shown more leadership ability since the election, leading her opponent 47% to 35%. Only 75% of Liberal voters thought Abbott had shown greater leadership ability, compared to 92% of Labor voters who said the same about Gillard, while 73% of Greens voters also favoured Gillard. There was no gender split about Gillard — 48% of women and 47% of men rated her more highly — but there remains one about Abbott, who had a stronger rating among men than women, 38-31%. The rise of the Greens was generally viewed favourably by voters: 45% of online survey respondents thought it was good for Australia that they had increased their strength, compared to 38% who thought it was bad. Even 68% of Labor voters thought it was good, compared to 19% of Liberal voters — and 40% of the latter thought the rise of the Greens “very bad” for Australia. Meanwhile, 44% of those polled believe the independents have “too much power” in the new government, compared to 36% who think they don’t. The view is far stronger amongst Liberal voters — 63% believe the independents have too much power, a sentiment, presumably, that would not exist if independents Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott had leant the other way last week, compared to 36% of Labor voters and 21% of Greens voters. Indeed, Liberal voters are profoundly unhappy with the decision of the independents (and presumably Oakeshott and Windsor, specifically). Almost 90% of Liberal voters disapprove of their decision — perhaps not surprisingly — but the sheer strength of that view is interesting: 54% of Liberal voters strongly disapprove of the independents’ call, while 90% of Liberal voters also disapprove of the Greens deal with Labor, including 58% who strongly disapprove (the overall figure is 41-46% approval/disapproval). |
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Liberals…shocking bullies and extremely poor losers…had the independents gone with them they would have hailed heroes…the Coalition are behaving like spoilt brats who cant get their own way…then again - whats new?
“…44% of those polled believe the independents have “too much power” in the new government…”
Let’s not help perpetuate the Coalition’s “Rainbow Coalition Government” great big lie.
There are no non-labor members of the Government. That might of been different had Oakeshott accepted a ministry but he declined the offer. The independents and Greens may have plenty of influence in the new Parliament but they are not part of the Government.
Liberals….. who cares! For a bunch of conservatives they’re surely the biggest sooks on the planet. It would be dissapointing though for the rightards. With nearly every mouthpiece in the media pushing their nonsence agenda and still they loose, isn’t it great. Makes you wonder how they would survive in a world where doom and gloom wasn’t the only thing that sold news.
A result for decency and seeing Pyne’n whine’n is much better the Pyne’n gloat’n, thank god they lost.
The only poll that matters:
AEC Updated: 13/09/2010 1:46:46 PM 2PP: Labor 50.08%; LP+LNQ+NP, 49.92%
(still not final)
Primary Votes: AEC DATA 13/09/2010 1:46:46 PM
ALP 37.8%
ALP + Greens 49.8%
ALP+Greens+3xInd 50.6%
LP 30.5%
Lib + LNQ + NP 43.3%
Lib+LNQ+NP+2xInd 43.8%
So, whichever way one cuts it, the ruling government alliance represents a majority of voters; 50.1% of 2PP or 50.6% of primary votes, compared to the potential alliance that could have put Abbott into power: 49.92% 2PP or only 43.8% of primary vote. According to Abbott, Pyne, Brandis and their media proxies, especially Shanahan, this 43.8% of the primary vote would have had more legitimacy than Labor with 7% more primary voters support.
With both Tony Crook and Bob Katter now on the “unaligned” cross benches, the seat count is Labor and Coalition dead heat on 72 seats each; on votes of no confidence and money bills it is Labor alliance 77 (incl. Katter) and Coalition 72 with one unaligned (Crook).
Winners are grinners.
No different than the Liberals in Tasmania. Liberal leader Will Hodgeman spends all his tome sooking over the result, and then wonders why nobody takes him seriously.
Get over it, move on, and demonstrate why we should vote for you in the next election.
The Liberals might have won the campaign, but that was essentially a marketing exercise, with a range of set of slogans that verged on the hysterical and/or lying. Labor won the government because of a superior set of policies, a fact the independents could not avoid.
I don’t recall either the ALP or their supporters carrying on in such a manner in 1998, when Beasley won the popular vote, the 2PP? and yet due to the Libs getting more seats, they formed the govt. Their behaviour is a disgrace. The next thing they’ll be advocating that young people get locked up for a minor offence, while their behaviour is a bad influence on the young. The ‘born to rule’ mentality is boring and rude! Wake up to yourselves!
If anyone has any right to feel aggrieved it’s The Greens supporters - with almost 17% of the vote in some areas, and approximately 11% in others, they end up with only one seat in the House of Reps? If they only received 10% of the vote and got 10% of the seats, they’d have 15? Not 1?
Now that is unfair and unjust in my view, but they’re not spitting the dummy! Perhaps somebody should point that out to Pyne, Hockey and Robb!
Who paid for this poll? Why do your dough on the bleeding obvious!
Oh, and since WW2, the conservative coalition has one with a minority vote on four occasions (51, 61, 69, 98) to the ALP’s one (90). You want single member electorates? This will happen…
Liz45 has beaten me to the punch with the point about Beazley’s percentage failing to win government. I cannot recall ALP supporters griping ad nauseum about the result.
One wonders about Rupert Murdoch though: he must be more than a little vexed than the vote didn’t play the way he’d engineered. Murdoch isn’t familiar with being a loser - this will be character building for him.
@ZUT ALORS - No, Rupert Murdoch is more familiar with spinning lies about people and then they lose - by taking their own lives. He has a history of reporting in this country - some of which he’d like to forget - problem is, others who can remember don’t and won’t forgive him for it. He’s a boil on the backside of journalism - the sooner ‘he’s lanced’ the better for democracy in this country, and judging from what I read about FOX so-called news in the US - his ‘germs’ have spread!
Howard lost 18 seats in 1998? The ALP lost 16? this time! Howard was elected in 1996 and went to an election in 1998 - the same number of years months perhaps? Also, the nonsense about the ALP sacking a PM during his first term, blah blah. The Libs did the same thing to John Gorton - a duly “elected PM in his first term” and they got rid of him! The hypocrisy is nauseating! Trouble is with this lot, it reminds me of my first two pregnancies - nausea and vomiting for two years???Julie Bishop wafted on about the terrible and sad act of getting rid of a PM blah blah - yesterday she gave Kevin Rudd a huge and insulting serve! Hypocrit!
I’m waiting for a journalist, just one, somewhere, who’ll confront Abbott or Brandis or Hockey or Robb? To have some semblance of journalistic pride, and approach one senior coalition person with the realities of their recent history.
One thing the last election should’ve demonstrated to the morons who believe that we elect a PM - over 11 million people voted and they didn’t elect a PM - they elected 150 members of Parliament, and it took two weeks and still counting! Gee, that feels good!
Right on Liz45