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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76426</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 05:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MELLAMAPHONE: Ah, she is an aristocat? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MELLAMAPHONE: Ah, she is an aristocat? <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: the invigilator</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76424</link>
		<dc:creator>the invigilator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, sorry bout that. it&#039;s spelt the way i say it in my head :)</description>
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		<title>By: bpobjie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76414</link>
		<dc:creator>bpobjie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pijobie&quot;? I mean, I&#039;m glad I&#039;m decent, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Pijobie&#8221;? I mean, I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m decent, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Socratease</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76311</link>
		<dc:creator>Socratease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 08:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ Why &quot;sic&quot;?

From the Oxford Concise dictionary:

staff • noun. 1 treated as sing. or pl. the employees of an organization. 2 treated as sing. or pl. a group of officers assisting an officer in command of an army formation or administration headquarters.

Note singular or plural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ Why &#8220;sic&#8221;?</p>
<p>From the Oxford Concise dictionary:</p>
<p>staff • noun. 1 treated as sing. or pl. the employees of an organization. 2 treated as sing. or pl. a group of officers assisting an officer in command of an army formation or administration headquarters.</p>
<p>Note singular or plural.</p>
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		<title>By: Thingsthatmakeyougohmm</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76305</link>
		<dc:creator>Thingsthatmakeyougohmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 06:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;his staff does (sic) quite well&quot;. So a &#039;staff&#039; of one, or an example of the argument?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>his staff does (sic) quite well&#8221;. So a &#8216;staff&#8217; of one, or an example of the argument?</p>
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		<title>By: mellamaphone</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76291</link>
		<dc:creator>mellamaphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 09:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise Alstergren: The cat is wearing a tiara.</description>
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		<title>By: the invigilator</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76287</link>
		<dc:creator>the invigilator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 08:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool! <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76285</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 08:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE INVIGILATOR: Thanks for the excellent reply. I&#039;m about to print it for further reference.

Cheers

V


BILL: Yeah, I&#039;ve written a fair few theses in my life and they do go to a pattern, I&#039;m not talking the contents, just the outline.

But, as you would know, adjusting one&#039;s writing to a whole different format ain&#039;t easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE INVIGILATOR: Thanks for the excellent reply. I&#8217;m about to print it for further reference.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>V</p>
<p>BILL: Yeah, I&#8217;ve written a fair few theses in my life and they do go to a pattern, I&#8217;m not talking the contents, just the outline.</p>
<p>But, as you would know, adjusting one&#8217;s writing to a whole different format ain&#8217;t easy.</p>
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		<title>By: the invigilator</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76282</link>
		<dc:creator>the invigilator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 07:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I kind of assumed that the pursuit would occur over a number of pieces. Bolt et al do it all the time, generally attacking the character of certain people, or causes such as global warming. But, you can do it with specific ideas just as well as with people and broad causes. I just think the development of theory is not done enough in alternative media. It may be implicit, I guess, and I just don&#039;t notice. But if done right, it should lead to much shorter pieces that arise as events prove or disprove the theory.

This is done in academia - from journal publication to publication - but often badly. Where covering the gamut of every tangentially related reference is more important than developing one&#039;s own. A paper is typically 90% history and 10% new ideas, with the whole lot written in dense, convoluted jargon. Obviously, journalists have to do better than that in communicating with their readers, but the MSM is inherently conservative as it has to appeal to its existing base. Alternative journalists on the other hand have the freedom to find new ideas and develop them piece-by-piece.

You might only need 200 words to sketch out the idea, and then see how it runs. Twitter have # tagging to accomplish this (across any number of authors), but 140 characters is limiting factor. I would say that a format of sequential short pieces expounding upon a novel  idea that responds to current events (and comments!) would be very interesting to read, and politically powerful as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I kind of assumed that the pursuit would occur over a number of pieces. Bolt et al do it all the time, generally attacking the character of certain people, or causes such as global warming. But, you can do it with specific ideas just as well as with people and broad causes. I just think the development of theory is not done enough in alternative media. It may be implicit, I guess, and I just don&#8217;t notice. But if done right, it should lead to much shorter pieces that arise as events prove or disprove the theory.</p>
<p>This is done in academia - from journal publication to publication - but often badly. Where covering the gamut of every tangentially related reference is more important than developing one&#8217;s own. A paper is typically 90% history and 10% new ideas, with the whole lot written in dense, convoluted jargon. Obviously, journalists have to do better than that in communicating with their readers, but the MSM is inherently conservative as it has to appeal to its existing base. Alternative journalists on the other hand have the freedom to find new ideas and develop them piece-by-piece.</p>
<p>You might only need 200 words to sketch out the idea, and then see how it runs. Twitter have # tagging to accomplish this (across any number of authors), but 140 characters is limiting factor. I would say that a format of sequential short pieces expounding upon a novel  idea that responds to current events (and comments!) would be very interesting to read, and politically powerful as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76280</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 07:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nothing that hasn&#039;t been done in op-ed columns for centuries. Only the delivery has changed. It may not be as highbrow as a thesis, but it&#039;s probably more interesting to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nothing that hasn&#8217;t been done in op-ed columns for centuries. Only the delivery has changed. It may not be as highbrow as a thesis, but it&#8217;s probably more interesting to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76276</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 07:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE INVIGILATOR &quot;&#039;tits and tunics&#039; lol. uhhh...do u have an example&#039;&quot;?

No, not really. I went to your site and that was the brief reaction I got. However, I&#039;ll go back and take another look.

&quot;Originality (in the context of political blogging): joining 2...&quot;

The way you define it joining 2 or more dots together that hasn&#039;t been done before. Then pursing this thought until.....

Surely this is what one does in academia? Very hard to do in 800-1200 words. This is the point you&#039;re making, I guess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE INVIGILATOR &#8220;&#8216;tits and tunics&#8217; lol. uhhh&#8230;do u have an example&#8217;&#8221;?</p>
<p>No, not really. I went to your site and that was the brief reaction I got. However, I&#8217;ll go back and take another look.</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Originality (in the context of political blogging): joining 2&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The way you define it joining 2 or more dots together that hasn&#8217;t been done before. Then pursing this thought until&#8230;..</p>
<p>Surely this is what one does in academia? Very hard to do in 800-1200 words. This is the point you&#8217;re making, I guess?</p>
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		<title>By: the invigilator</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76255</link>
		<dc:creator>the invigilator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;tits and tunics&#039; lol. uhhhh... do u have an example??

Originality (in the context of political blogging): joining 2 (or preferably more) dots in a way that has not been done before (to the best of your knowledge). Pursuing this thought until all possible implications are exhausted, or it is shown to be incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="quo">&#8216;</span>tits and tunics&#8217; lol. uhhhh&#8230; do u have an example??</p>
<p>Originality (in the context of political blogging): joining 2 (or preferably more) dots in a way that has not been done before (to the best of your knowledge). Pursuing this thought until all possible implications are exhausted, or it is shown to be incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76253</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: Errata:  practice  not practise. Lack of right hand bracket. I used the word prudery when &#039;respectability&#039; may have been better.

INVIGILATOR: How do YOU define originality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: Errata:  practice  not practise. Lack of right hand bracket. I used the word prudery when &#8216;respectability&#8217; may have been better.</p>
<p>INVIGILATOR: How do YOU define originality?</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76252</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a an admitted criminal, I got flung off New Matilda for using the &#039;C&#039; word, it cannot be solely a question of money per se. It&#039;s the allocation of money, which counts.

INVIGILATOR: You are making a joke I think? From the little I&#039;ve seen of your rap sheet, it&#039;s all tits and tunics, metaphorically speaking, is it not?

I thought N M was soft, like runny chocolate. Their editorials were too long, and instead of deleting the &#039;C&#039; word they should have removed fifty percent of the very long comments.

I&#039;d never written anything before arriving at Crikey and New Matilda and if I get the chance to look at some of my comments then, I don&#039;t take it; I cringe.

If NM had had the chance they should have axed seventy-five percent of my words. I&#039;m mentioning myself as it would be unethical to pick on someone else. (contrary to what many of the commentariat at Crikey practise.

There was a certain naïvity about NM.  Also a prudery-I don&#039;t mean by using the &#039;C&#039; word- which indicated what I defined as being part of the world wide swing to conservative values of the 25-40 year olds age group.

They took themselves so damned seriously and for that crime anyone deserves censure. ( Andrew Bolt your time will come)

MELLAMAPHONE: Are you calling yourself a &#039;phone, or to refer to the ungulate of Bolivia?

BTW What&#039;s that between the cat&#039;s ears-of your avatar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a an admitted criminal, I got flung off New Matilda for using the &#8216;C&#8217; word, it cannot be solely a question of money per se. It&#8217;s the allocation of money, which counts.</p>
<p>INVIGILATOR: You are making a joke I think? From the little I&#8217;ve seen of your rap sheet, it&#8217;s all tits and tunics, metaphorically speaking, is it not?</p>
<p>I thought N M was soft, like runny chocolate. Their editorials were too long, and instead of deleting the &#8216;C&#8217; word they should have removed fifty percent of the very long comments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never written anything before arriving at Crikey and New Matilda and if I get the chance to look at some of my comments then, I don&#8217;t take it; I cringe.</p>
<p>If NM had had the chance they should have axed seventy-five percent of my words. I&#8217;m mentioning myself as it would be unethical to pick on someone else. (contrary to what many of the commentariat at Crikey practise.</p>
<p>There was a certain naïvity about NM.  Also a prudery-I don&#8217;t mean by using the &#8216;C&#8217; word- which indicated what I defined as being part of the world wide swing to conservative values of the 25-40 year olds age group.</p>
<p>They took themselves so damned seriously and for that crime anyone deserves censure. ( Andrew Bolt your time will come)</p>
<p>MELLAMAPHONE: Are you calling yourself a &#8216;phone, or to refer to the ungulate of Bolivia?</p>
<p>BTW What&#8217;s that between the cat&#8217;s ears-of your avatar?</p>
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		<title>By: dmc333</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76238</link>
		<dc:creator>dmc333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange this could be considered a tragedy. There&#039;s a massive oversupply of opinions and a dearth of reporting. I can hardly shed a tear for another opinion site going south.

Sorry, but no one wants to do any hard work - it&#039;s drinking coffee and sniffing your own farts. I&#039;m very bored with it and why wouldn&#039;t I be? I surf in and find another day&#039;s worth of words telling me what&#039;s wrong with Rudd or Abbott - any d!ckhead on the street can tell me that.

I wish someone would give me a reason to click their ads, or even show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange this could be considered a tragedy. There&#8217;s a massive oversupply of opinions and a dearth of reporting. I can hardly shed a tear for another opinion site going south.</p>
<p>Sorry, but no one wants to do any hard work - it&#8217;s drinking coffee and sniffing your own farts. I&#8217;m very bored with it and why wouldn&#8217;t I be? I surf in and find another day&#8217;s worth of words telling me what&#8217;s wrong with Rudd or Abbott - any d!ckhead on the street can tell me that.</p>
<p>I wish someone would give me a reason to click their ads, or even show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76229</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 10:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started a &#039;blog about a year and a half ago after years of people telling me my writing deserved a wider audience.  I&#039;m sure that audience is more humble than the average but it still puts my writing out there in the hopes of being noticed and I don&#039;t mind admitting I&#039;d love to be paid for it.

I had never visited The Inquisitor before, and after having a look, I think that site proves the title of this article. On the front page right now:
&quot;Insecure Heidi Klum&quot;
&quot;Russell Brand Wants Katy Perry to Learn to Cook&quot;
&quot;2010 NFL Draft in review: Green Bay Packers&quot;  (NFL? Really?)
&quot;Hamster Rap – this is just too damn cool&quot; 
&quot;Awesome video music mashup using William Shatner&quot;

I may be doing them an injustice, but on first glance, it looks more like a fluff and gossip aggregator than anything  deserving of the name The Inquisitor.  As such, I&#039;m not really sure what they have to say to a site that hosts original content on slightly less frivolous topics.
But I&#039;d still write for them if they asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started a &#8216;blog about a year and a half ago after years of people telling me my writing deserved a wider audience.  I&#8217;m sure that audience is more humble than the average but it still puts my writing out there in the hopes of being noticed and I don&#8217;t mind admitting I&#8217;d love to be paid for it.</p>
<p>I had never visited The Inquisitor before, and after having a look, I think that site proves the title of this article. On the front page right now:<br />
&#8220;Insecure Heidi Klum&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Russell Brand Wants Katy Perry to Learn to Cook&#8221;<br />
&#8220;2010 NFL Draft in review: Green Bay Packers&#8221;  (NFL? Really?)<br />
&#8220;Hamster Rap – this is just too damn cool&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Awesome video music mashup using William Shatner&#8221;</p>
<p>I may be doing them an injustice, but on first glance, it looks more like a fluff and gossip aggregator than anything  deserving of the name The Inquisitor.  As such, I&#8217;m not really sure what they have to say to a site that hosts original content on slightly less frivolous topics.<br />
But I&#8217;d still write for them if they asked.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76220</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 08:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even The Canberra Press Gallery isn&#039;t enough&quot; says the Krudd. And Ludo agrees
AP (A reliable source..Promise).

So he plans to spend just $38.5 million of our money ( admittedly a mere soupcon compared to his earlier spending of our money) on a &#039;government&#039; ad campaign to combat the misinformation from those evil miners....you know the same crew the &quot;taxes windfall&quot; from which the &quot;Howard government squandered&quot;

$38.5 million.

Hmm.... that would pay for heaps of articles in that quality &#039;New Matilda&#039; journal.

Wouldn&#039;t it?

Good job Bernard Keane&#039;s other Labor luvvie, Faulkner is standing up to the evil Liberals on campaign finance reform...eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Even The Canberra Press Gallery isn&#8217;t enough&#8221; says the Krudd. And Ludo agrees<br />
AP (A reliable source..Promise).</p>
<p>So he plans to spend just $38.5 million of our money ( admittedly a mere soupcon compared to his earlier spending of our money) on a &#8216;government&#8217; ad campaign to combat the misinformation from those evil miners&#8230;.you know the same crew the &#8220;taxes windfall&#8221; from which the &#8220;Howard government squandered&#8221;</p>
<p>$38.5 million.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;. that would pay for heaps of articles in that quality &#8216;New Matilda&#8217; journal.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Good job Bernard Keane&#8217;s other Labor luvvie, Faulkner is standing up to the evil Liberals on campaign finance reform&#8230;eh?</p>
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		<title>By: mellamaphone</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76194</link>
		<dc:creator>mellamaphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 07:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also &quot;expecially troublesome&quot; was the spelling in my last post. Egad! I&#039;ve got the Friday afternoon subbing blues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8220;expecially troublesome&#8221; was the spelling in my last post. Egad! I&#8217;ve got the Friday afternoon subbing blues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the invigilator</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76187</link>
		<dc:creator>the invigilator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mellamaphone - this was the problem I had with Eltham et al. The opportunity was rare, valuable... and squandered.

Guru is a forerunner of things to come. My advice: begin training your mind now. Get used to thinking deeply and critically. Also, treat your readers as compatriots. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/opinion/28iht-edlevy.html?ref=global&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comrades in revolution&lt;/a&gt;. Lead them, but also respond to them.

Truth is a negotiated artifact, not something to be venerated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mellamaphone - this was the problem I had with Eltham et al. The opportunity was rare, valuable&#8230; and squandered.</p>
<p>Guru is a forerunner of things to come. My advice: begin training your mind now. Get used to thinking deeply and critically. Also, treat your readers as compatriots. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/opinion/28iht-edlevy.html?ref=global" rel="nofollow">Comrades in revolution</a>. Lead them, but also respond to them.</p>
<p>Truth is a negotiated artifact, not something to be venerated.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76183</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flip side is the White House Press Corp to a man/ woman on $1 million/ year to report ever sycophantically the President say  of his daughter Malia &quot;pokin&#039; her head &#039;round the bathroom door&quot;: &quot;Did you plug the hole yet Daddy?&quot;

Come to think of it not much different the drivel we get out our Canberra Press Gallery kevvieluvvies........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flip side is the White House Press Corp to a man/ woman on $1 million/ year to report ever sycophantically the President say  of his daughter Malia &#8220;pokin&#8217; her head &#8216;round the bathroom door&#8221;: &#8220;Did you plug the hole yet Daddy?&#8221;</p>
<p>Come to think of it not much different the drivel we get out our Canberra Press Gallery kevvieluvvies&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mellamaphone</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76181</link>
		<dc:creator>mellamaphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking to a journalist friend about this topic last night... online is killing decent writing, as so many sites are happy to go with the cheapest writer, rather than the most skilled or informed, because they just don&#039;t have a decent budget. Guru.com is expecially troublesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking to a journalist friend about this topic last night&#8230; online is killing decent writing, as so many sites are happy to go with the cheapest writer, rather than the most skilled or informed, because they just don&#8217;t have a decent budget. Guru.com is expecially troublesome.</p>
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		<title>By: paddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mel, 
they paid you $100 to write this and (being a cheapskate concession subscriber) 
I paid $100 to read it. 
There&#039;s absolutely no doubt in my mind, I got the best part of the deal. 
A thousand thanks and hang in there. 
Hope they&#039;ll keep paying you for lots more in the future. 
Cheers P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mel,<br />
they paid you $100 to write this and (being a cheapskate concession subscriber)<br />
I paid $100 to read it.<br />
There&#8217;s absolutely no doubt in my mind, I got the best part of the deal.<br />
A thousand thanks and hang in there.<br />
Hope they&#8217;ll keep paying you for lots more in the future.<br />
Cheers P.</p>
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		<title>By: the invigilator</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76165</link>
		<dc:creator>the invigilator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 05:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie, Mel - apologies. Fair call - my blog this ain&#039;t. But I would like some thoughts about the issues &lt;a href=&quot;http://invig.livejournal.com/414554.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I raise here&lt;/a&gt;. From Crikey. 

Michael, I would love to see examples the &#039;alt&#039; stuff you talk about. Or even some vague categories? PS My &lt;a href=&quot;http://invig.livejournal.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; is here - want to become the 5th reader??? ;D

My letter was written in about 2 minutes. I wouldn&#039;t expect to be paid $100 for that. But, hell, if they want me to write a piece (about the Productivity Commission?) I&#039;d be more than happy to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie, Mel - apologies. Fair call - my blog this ain&#8217;t. But I would like some thoughts about the issues <a href="http://invig.livejournal.com/414554.html" rel="nofollow">I raise here</a>. From Crikey. </p>
<p>Michael, I would love to see examples the &#8216;alt&#8217; stuff you talk about. Or even some vague categories? PS My <a href="http://invig.livejournal.com/" rel="nofollow">blog</a> is here - want to become the 5th reader??? ;D</p>
<p>My letter was written in about 2 minutes. I wouldn&#8217;t expect to be paid $100 for that. But, hell, if they want me to write a piece (about the Productivity Commission?) I&#8217;d be more than happy to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76163</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 05:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@THE INVIGILATOR Posted Friday, 28 May 2010 at 3:18 pm

Uh-oh.  Might have just shot yourself in the foot.  It seems Crikey Ed has just told you to go f**k yourself (you&#039;re 15 years old, what else you gonna do?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@THE INVIGILATOR Posted Friday, 28 May 2010 at 3:18 pm</p>
<p>Uh-oh.  Might have just shot yourself in the foot.  It seems Crikey Ed has just told you to go f**k yourself (you&#8217;re 15 years old, what else you gonna do?).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/28/when-online-media-outlets-pay-peanuts-they-get-monkeys/#comment-76161</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 05:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@THE INVIGILATOR   Posted Friday, 28 May 2010 at 3:18 pm

If this piece represents your best effort, your blog will remain at 3 or 4 readers (your mum &amp; dad &amp; sister?).  (But look, obviously you are 15 years old and you might mature in time....good luck)

As for &quot;The MSM cover all the basics&quot;.  Takes my breath away.  No doubt different Crikey readers/subscribers get different things from it but for me it is an honest interpretation of news that one has trouble finding in the MSM. The &quot;alt&quot;, &quot;edgy&quot; stuff that you are addicted to, is wearying after ....a few milliseconds and the quality is simply hardly ever there (witness your letter; but again have a shot at writing a full piece for Crikey, they are quite receptive (code for desperate) if you are good enough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@THE INVIGILATOR   Posted Friday, 28 May 2010 at 3:18 pm</p>
<p>If this piece represents your best effort, your blog will remain at 3 or 4 readers (your mum &amp; dad &amp; sister?).  (But look, obviously you are 15 years old and you might mature in time&#8230;.good luck)</p>
<p>As for &#8220;The MSM cover all the basics&#8221;.  Takes my breath away.  No doubt different Crikey readers/subscribers get different things from it but for me it is an honest interpretation of news that one has trouble finding in the MSM. The &#8220;alt&#8221;, &#8220;edgy&#8221; stuff that you are addicted to, is wearying after &#8230;.a few milliseconds and the quality is simply hardly ever there (witness your letter; but again have a shot at writing a full piece for Crikey, they are quite receptive (code for desperate) if you are good enough).</p>
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