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In a lengthy speech to Parliament yesterday, former Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull laid into Tony Abbott’s climate change policy plan, continuing his support for the Government’s amended CPRS.
But did he deal a damaging blow to his Abbott’s scheme, or come off looking like a sore loser?
Crikey’s Bernard Keane had this to say on The Stump blog:
Turnbull effortlessly put the case for the CPRS far more eloquently and coherently than Kevin Rudd or any of his ministers has so far managed
Here’s how the rest of Australia’s commentariat saw it:
The Australian
Peter van Onselen: Bravo, an excellent speech, pity about the timing
Malcolm Turnbull gave one of his best political speeches yesterday when he explained why he would cross the floor and vote for the government’s emissions trading scheme. It’s just that it came six months too late to save his leadership.
Paul Kelly: Tragic Malcolm Turnbull keeps kicking
Turnbull yesterday offered an eloquent, rational and policy-wise defence of the Rudd government’s Emissions Trading Scheme but it testifies to an idea whose light is fading in Australia and internationally.
Sydney Morning Herald
David Marr: A dream Labor speech from the vanquished
Turnbull was not delivering a great farewell. This was a working speech, a selling speech, the kind of speech Labor supporters wish their leader would deliver
National Times
Tony Wright, The Goanna: Loneliness of the carbon warrior crossing the line
… he gave the clearest exposition Parliament has yet heard on the reasons why such a scheme was the only rational response to climate change
Elsewhere…
Grog, Grog’s Gamut: On the QT: A Tale of Two Speeches
Today in the House of Representatives two speeches were given by the current and former leaders of the opposition. One was forceful, well reasoned, cutting, intelligent and persuasive. The other was given by Tony Abbott.
Samuel J, Catallaxy Files: Malcolm Bligh Turnbull — Australia’s Don Quixote?
Malcolm Turnbull today abandoned any pretense of support of small government and liberalism by throwing his weight behind the considerably corrupted Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme.
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As losing losers go, they don’t come much bigger thn Malcolm Turnbull.
…or Crikey for it’s lack of a preview facility.
Thanks for the Youtube-level analysis there. I suppose Turnbull’s also a ‘gaytard’.
What MPM, can’t someone have an opinion in a democracy? How does that make him a “loser”? You are quite a vindictive piece of work, mate…a typical One Nation type. And I suppose you’re also behind Abbott’s idea to water-down gun control legislation too?
Come on, Tomboy! MPM’s just confirming the “Liberal Party Broad Church” theory. Soon to be replaced by the “Purity Test”, or “Wingnut-O-Meter”.
i have just read macloms speech,
If you go back some yearw re 2007 in handsard there is speeches by Mr. Rudd that are very
similar. I think its nonsence to say mr. Rudd has not explained, People where not listening.
Every one had their eyes fixed on Al Gore at that time. I remember friends of outs where so worried they thought it must be the end of the world.
But as time has passed and all the sketptics hit the air waves people cannot remember what it was all about.
That is just what Abbott wants.
So you should go back and see for your self in handsard with out also forgetting.
O and seeing abbott ironing made me even dislike him more
“But did he deal a damaging blow to his Abbott’s scheme, or come off looking like a sore loser?”
Both.
Plus a few other things as well probably.
Such as:
“Hey! Remember me? I’m still here!”
MPM = Troll.
Turnbull’s ‘alternate ETS’ was costed at A$61 BILLION DOLLARS and the laughter echoed around the world.
Loser.
And doesn’t it just rile the conversationally-challenged above.
8 ACE you get my vote for the best username. I thought long and hard about “fat slag” for mine but coulnn’t quite commit
Best to ignore MPM no matter how tempting it is to respond to her provocations. Responding to a troll only feeds her peculiar psychological needs
SBH - cheers from the doghouse out the front!
Abbott’s shown the courage of his convictions by producing a policy which deals with an issue he feels is non-existent. Each-way bet? What next? Season ticket to the Church of Satan? Just in case?
Turnbull is obviously a labor sleeper (or has a conscience) ?
Realist: do you mean Malcolm is like many of us, who find Rudd makes us sleepy when he talks?
“…8 ACE you get my vote for the best username. I thought long and hard about “fat slag” for mine but coulnn’t quite commit…”
You both must be looking for the Hannah Montana blog…plenty of deep and profound usernames over there.
And it only costs £1.49 to join.
MPM - indeed it is! And I saw you there the other day, trolling the poor little tweens.
Why is it that Australian democracy is a democracy where members of a political party have to always tow their parties line, even if it is at the detriment of the members of the electorate they represent?
In the UK, and certainly congress and senate in the US, politicians are not welded to party lines. Sure Malcolm Turnbull threw a hand grenade into his own party room, but it is what he firmly believes. Petro Georgiou and others did the same thing on Asylum Seekers and mandatory detention. It should be noted that Tony Abbott was not shy on offering opinions outside his opposition portfolio under Nelson and Turnbull.
The liberal party has its dessenters, the labor party miraculously doesn’t (at least not in public). The labor party pulverises anyone who dare to differ from the party unline unless released to a conscious vote. Those with Party allegiance will see Turnbull’s speech as trechory agains the Liberal Party and those rusted on Labor voters will see a man ‘voting his conscience’.
I will sit and rot before I see a back bencher from the labor party do what Gergiou and Turnbull have been able to do in the Liberal Party. The Liberal party in allowing its dessenters to speak gives me the faintest hope that some politicians still do rarely care for the people in the electorate that elected them. If every vote in parliament was a conscious vote we’d be a lot better off, and our elected representatives would truy be representative.
I may not agree with Abbott, Gergiou and Turnbull’s positions, but I’m grateful there is one major political party that lets them say what they think, even though it’s contrary to what the Party position is.
how did he get the pound sign?? I couldn’t for the life of me
Deccles:
“If every vote in parliament was a conscious vote we’d be a lot better off”
Does this mean you’d have to wake up Ron Boswell for every division?
@8ACE
What next? Season ticket to the Church of Satan?
Abbott got one of them from howard already now he just want the company of all of our kids in a climate changed hell on earth.
Your funny MPM and deluded. Even when I read it your laugh sounds fake but don’t worry we are all laughing at you. lol
Well if it was a conscious vote I suspect most members of the Senate would leave Sen. Ron Boswell sleeping. I’d also say for every Ron Boswell on one side there’s a Bob Collins on the other side of the chamber.
Boswell is terrific.
@Deccles
One small point.
Turnbull is now treated as a leper by his own.
Sounds fair to me ?
DECCLES: It is toe the party line, surely?
EPONYMOUS: At what?
SBH: Oh, but you should have.
You, Venise Alstergren are otiose but right. I am a fat slag. Where’s me tin of purple leg botch? (its referential Venise, you’d need to know which publication it comes from)
SBH: I have this strange feeling you wish to converse with me. I have explained in another comment that I just don’t trust you. I enjoy jousting with men. Men leave out personal references to looks and sundry superficialities.
I don’t give a f/uck about your weight problems or your age or your looks. The colour of your legs, or your literary tastes. You are your own problem. You are the one who is not only otiose but you deal out insults which are not germane to the opinion the person who wrote the article was discussing. You are the one attempting to bring yourself into all discussions.
I’ve asked you politely to please show me the same courtesy I am attempting to show you. My remark “Oh but you should have!” was not necessary and it was gratuitous. I apologise, I shall not do it again.