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	<title>Comments on: The copyright outrage the geeks forgot to mention</title>
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		<title>By: shell</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55998</link>
		<dc:creator>shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for covering this - we should be hearing more about this in the media. I&#039;ve read that the ACTA treaty has a clause that requires participating Governments to filter their internet - so all this is tied up together - the Australian Governments internet filter and the ACTA treaty but the public is not being told.

This will fundamentally change the internet. Governments and Corporations should not have access to these &#039;secret&#039; negotiations when the public is not being informed. This treaty is setup to protect the income of shareholders for multinationals and is not in the public interest.

People are being forced to sign non-disclosure agreements and people on twitter are being ejected from the meetings about this treaty - and these are only the &#039;public&#039; meetings - what is going on behind closed doors? 
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/22/activist-ejected-fro.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for covering this - we should be hearing more about this in the media. I&#8217;ve read that the ACTA treaty has a clause that requires participating Governments to filter their internet - so all this is tied up together - the Australian Governments internet filter and the ACTA treaty but the public is not being told.</p>
<p>This will fundamentally change the internet. Governments and Corporations should not have access to these &#8216;secret&#8217; negotiations when the public is not being informed. This treaty is setup to protect the income of shareholders for multinationals and is not in the public interest.</p>
<p>People are being forced to sign non-disclosure agreements and people on twitter are being ejected from the meetings about this treaty - and these are only the &#8216;public&#8217; meetings - what is going on behind closed doors?<br />
<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/22/activist-ejected-fro.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/22/activist-ejected-fro.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: photogeek</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55811</link>
		<dc:creator>photogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the Geeks didn&#039;t forget to mention this! It&#039;s been all over Twitter for the past few weeks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the Geeks didn&#8217;t forget to mention this! It&#8217;s been all over Twitter for the past few weeks!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55253</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch this space:  http://www.michaelgeist.ca/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch this space:  <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelgeist.ca/</a></p>
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		<title>By: homesjc</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55173</link>
		<dc:creator>homesjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my comments above.  Some US commentators have just realised that the recent change in funding for political parties have allowed any corporation or entity world wide to contribute unlimited funds to influence US Politics.  

Time for much more transparency in decision making that affects citizens, and good freedoms of speech and freedom from the use of libel law to close down dissent.

Agree with comment that robust positive senesible analysis is needed, and this is too important to be left as a sideshow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my comments above.  Some US commentators have just realised that the recent change in funding for political parties have allowed any corporation or entity world wide to contribute unlimited funds to influence US Politics.  </p>
<p>Time for much more transparency in decision making that affects citizens, and good freedoms of speech and freedom from the use of libel law to close down dissent.</p>
<p>Agree with comment that robust positive senesible analysis is needed, and this is too important to be left as a sideshow.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55119</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate Angus&#039; intention but if we can&#039;t have a sensible debate on internet filtering, there&#039;s no chance ACTA is going to stopped whatever its provisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Angus&#8217; intention but if we can&#8217;t have a sensible debate on internet filtering, there&#8217;s no chance ACTA is going to stopped whatever its provisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian Blackall</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks James. I didn&#039;t know that the free speech sections had not been ratified by the Australian government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks James. I didn&#8217;t know that the free speech sections had not been ratified by the Australian government.</p>
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		<title>By: James Turnbull</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55043</link>
		<dc:creator>James Turnbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jillian Blackall - I am afraid you&#039;re not quite right there.  The UDHR indeed does say that and Australia is a signatory to this treaty.  But to ratify treaties as Australian law governments must do so in an Act of Parliament.  They&#039;ve done this for some of the Articles of the UDHR but not the free speech sections thus making them not enforceable under Australian law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jillian Blackall - I am afraid you&#8217;re not quite right there.  The UDHR indeed does say that and Australia is a signatory to this treaty.  But to ratify treaties as Australian law governments must do so in an Act of Parliament.  They&#8217;ve done this for some of the Articles of the UDHR but not the free speech sections thus making them not enforceable under Australian law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian Blackall</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55021</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) affirms that &quot;everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.&quot;

MPM, you are a disgrace and I am ashamed to be on the same side of politics as you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) affirms that &#8220;everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.&#8221;</p>
<p>MPM, you are a disgrace and I am ashamed to be on the same side of politics as you.</p>
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		<title>By: Purkaeus</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55020</link>
		<dc:creator>Purkaeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There might not be an official &#039;freedom of speech&#039; in this country, but if the citizens accept that as the way things are meant to be and move on, there never will be such freedom. We have every right to claim freedom of speech, should we so desire, and if the government and high court don&#039;t agree, they can stick their constitution and laws where they don&#039;t fit. Any constitution or law that infringes or makes no provision for general freedom of speech in a country like this should be wholeheartedly dismissed by self-respecting citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There might not be an official &#8216;freedom of speech&#8217; in this country, but if the citizens accept that as the way things are meant to be and move on, there never will be such freedom. We have every right to claim freedom of speech, should we so desire, and if the government and high court don&#8217;t agree, they can stick their constitution and laws where they don&#8217;t fit. Any constitution or law that infringes or makes no provision for general freedom of speech in a country like this should be wholeheartedly dismissed by self-respecting citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithee</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-55005</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kept reading hoping there was some point to the article. What crap.

Fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept reading hoping there was some point to the article. What crap.</p>
<p>Fail</p>
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		<title>By: James Turnbull</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54701</link>
		<dc:creator>James Turnbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t even really an &quot;implied freedom of speech&quot; in Australia - barring some High Court rulings.  This article from the Parlimentary Library covers it better than I could:

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/Pubs/RN/2001-02/02rn42.htm

Also these articles:

http://libertus.net/censor/fspeechlaw.html 
http://www.comslaw.org.au/LeftMenu/FreeSpeechDefamation/tabid/59/Default.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t even really an &#8220;implied freedom of speech&#8221; in Australia - barring some High Court rulings.  This article from the Parlimentary Library covers it better than I could:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/library/Pubs/RN/2001-02/02rn42.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aph.gov.au/library/Pubs/RN/2001-02/02rn42.htm</a></p>
<p>Also these articles:</p>
<p><a href="http://libertus.net/censor/fspeechlaw.html" rel="nofollow">http://libertus.net/censor/fspeechlaw.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.comslaw.org.au/LeftMenu/FreeSpeechDefamation/tabid/59/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.comslaw.org.au/LeftMenu/FreeSpeechDefamation/tabid/59/Default.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Most Peculiar Mama</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54675</link>
		<dc:creator>Most Peculiar Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...but I don’t think that means you can’t ever refer to “freedom of speech” in an Australian context...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You referred to something that doesn&#039;t exist.  Why did you feel the need to do that?

&lt;i&gt;&quot;... If you choose to disagree, I can’t stop you...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Great.  You won&#039;t make it as a journalist peddling falsehoods.

But if you choose to disagree, I can’t stop you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>&#8230;but I don’t think that means you can’t ever refer to “freedom of speech” in an Australian context&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You referred to something that doesn&#8217;t exist.  Why did you feel the need to do that?</p>
<p><i><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>&#8230; If you choose to disagree, I can’t stop you&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Great.  You won&#8217;t make it as a journalist peddling falsehoods.</p>
<p>But if you choose to disagree, I can’t stop you.</p>
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		<title>By: James Turnbull</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54653</link>
		<dc:creator>James Turnbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - the interesting part about ACTA is indeed the secrecy around it - what exactly does Copyright have to do with &quot;national security&quot;?  

You don&#039;t need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that governments refusing the disclose details of the treaty suggests something underhand is at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article - the interesting part about ACTA is indeed the secrecy around it - what exactly does Copyright have to do with &#8220;national security&#8221;?  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that governments refusing the disclose details of the treaty suggests something underhand is at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54622</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m not an IT geek, but this article doesn’t seem to add enough to the main issues (which should&#039;ve addressed the gap bemoaned in the penultimate paragraph and not labour the &#039;geeky&#039; reporting).  I sought feedback from a US-based mainstream-OSS IT friend who drew my attention to http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/actas-shameful-secret.ars  It is an important and informative read.

He also noted that informed reaction is hampered by (1) secrecy of the provisions (as Angus Kidman reports), and (2) mainstream media likely having a vested interest in ACTA’s passage.  It is rumoured that the provisions include that anti-piracy enforcement may be moved to government (rather than the ‘wronged’ company) so that it can be treated as a criminal rather than civil matter (I’m out of my depth on such matters so may misunderstand this).  This would be a big change in intellectual property mechanisms and significantly increase (further) big business influence on government.

There is also concern that ACTA may threaten the existence of Free/Libre and Open Source software by attacking its use of copyright law in a manner contrary to traditional use in imposing many restrictions, by tackling the ‘copyleft’ mandate of few if any restrictions.  But, as noted, the provisions of ACTA are a closely held secret by an Obama Administration committed to public openness, although I see in the above arstechnica weblink that it has evidently been shared with 40 other countries.  Given Angus&#039; reference to the US/Australia Free Trade Agreement, it would been useful to hear whether this is likely another case of US corporate interests determining Australian domestic laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not an IT geek, but this article doesn’t seem to add enough to the main issues (which should&#8217;ve addressed the gap bemoaned in the penultimate paragraph and not labour the &#8216;geeky&#8217; reporting).  I sought feedback from a US-based mainstream-OSS IT friend who drew my attention to <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/actas-shameful-secret.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/actas-shameful-secret.ars</a>  It is an important and informative read.</p>
<p>He also noted that informed reaction is hampered by (1) secrecy of the provisions (as Angus Kidman reports), and (2) mainstream media likely having a vested interest in ACTA’s passage.  It is rumoured that the provisions include that anti-piracy enforcement may be moved to government (rather than the ‘wronged’ company) so that it can be treated as a criminal rather than civil matter (I’m out of my depth on such matters so may misunderstand this).  This would be a big change in intellectual property mechanisms and significantly increase (further) big business influence on government.</p>
<p>There is also concern that ACTA may threaten the existence of Free/Libre and Open Source software by attacking its use of copyright law in a manner contrary to traditional use in imposing many restrictions, by tackling the ‘copyleft’ mandate of few if any restrictions.  But, as noted, the provisions of ACTA are a closely held secret by an Obama Administration committed to public openness, although I see in the above arstechnica weblink that it has evidently been shared with 40 other countries.  Given Angus&#8217; reference to the US/Australia Free Trade Agreement, it would been useful to hear whether this is likely another case of US corporate interests determining Australian domestic laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bond</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54618</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was more flesh in here about ACTA.  Judging by the heavily-redacted leaked and FOI&#039;d drafts, it could be much, &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; worse than internet filtering.  3 strikes, potential imprisonment for &quot;significant wilful copyright and trademark infringement even where there is no direct or indirect motivation of financial gain.&quot; , notice-and-takedown, and required proactive policing of user-submitted content (read: the death of youtube, comment threads, flickr … pretty much web2.0 in its entirety).

Here&#039;s a bit more, via bOINGbOING on a draft leaked late last year: http://boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html
and the shut-out of the third world and civil society: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/14/new-acta-copyright-t.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there was more flesh in here about ACTA.  Judging by the heavily-redacted leaked and FOI&#8217;d drafts, it could be much, <i>much</i> worse than internet filtering.  3 strikes, potential imprisonment for &#8220;significant wilful copyright and trademark infringement even where there is no direct or indirect motivation of financial gain.&#8221; , notice-and-takedown, and required proactive policing of user-submitted content (read: the death of youtube, comment threads, flickr … pretty much web2.0 in its entirety).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a bit more, via bOINGbOING on a draft leaked late last year: <a href="http://boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html" rel="nofollow">http://boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html</a><br />
and the shut-out of the third world and civil society: <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/14/new-acta-copyright-t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/14/new-acta-copyright-t.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin C. Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54611</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin C. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article, Angus.</description>
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		<title>By: Jillian Blackall</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ACTA will try and enforce copyright in the digital realm, meaning the same kind of ISP-level meddling that’s associated with current internet censorship proposals in Australia.&quot;

That does sound like something to be concerned about. It&#039;s true it hasn&#039;t received mainstream coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>ACTA will try and enforce copyright in the digital realm, meaning the same kind of ISP-level meddling that’s associated with current internet censorship proposals in Australia.&#8221;</p>
<p>That does sound like something to be concerned about. It&#8217;s true it hasn&#8217;t received mainstream coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: acannon</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54601</link>
		<dc:creator>acannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I still don&#039;t get what ACTA is about. Can you clarify?</description>
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		<title>By: Delerious</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54584</link>
		<dc:creator>Delerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing to say I liked the article and I hope Angus would write more....the last thing I expected was a luddite to comment on it in the first instance. Oh well, I&#039;m shagging a geek and he is shagging me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing to say I liked the article and I hope Angus would write more&#8230;.the last thing I expected was a luddite to comment on it in the first instance. Oh well, I&#8217;m shagging a geek and he is shagging me.</p>
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		<title>By: homesjc</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54545</link>
		<dc:creator>homesjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power to the geeks and for freedom of information. 

Having spent this morning chasing up some IP issues with generic chemicals, and having been involved with the US free trade agreement, we need a good active open discussion on IP and copyright.  We were duded in some areas and have yet to realise it.  We nearly lost significant parts of the pharmaceutical benefit scheme again through excessive protection of IP.

Time to demand that non Australian corporations be denied certain privileges.  ie access to directly lobby governments, and that their Australian representees need to submit publicly available reports on subject, time and any inducements.  How do you classify escorts?

Closely examine the impact on Haiti of US cooperation’s.  The rolling of the Aristide government was in part due to the workers of a US cooperation demanding and getting better wages, then having that reversed after the intervention.  Other incidents bring to mind the consequences of action to support US corporations – the United Fruit Company in Central America.  Power to the geeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power to the geeks and for freedom of information. </p>
<p>Having spent this morning chasing up some IP issues with generic chemicals, and having been involved with the US free trade agreement, we need a good active open discussion on IP and copyright.  We were duded in some areas and have yet to realise it.  We nearly lost significant parts of the pharmaceutical benefit scheme again through excessive protection of IP.</p>
<p>Time to demand that non Australian corporations be denied certain privileges.  ie access to directly lobby governments, and that their Australian representees need to submit publicly available reports on subject, time and any inducements.  How do you classify escorts?</p>
<p>Closely examine the impact on Haiti of US cooperation’s.  The rolling of the Aristide government was in part due to the workers of a US cooperation demanding and getting better wages, then having that reversed after the intervention.  Other incidents bring to mind the consequences of action to support US corporations – the United Fruit Company in Central America.  Power to the geeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Kidman</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54542</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Kidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, there isn&#039;t a constitutional right to freedom of speech, but I don&#039;t think that means you can&#039;t ever refer to &quot;freedom of speech&quot; in an Australian context. If you choose to disagree, I can&#039;t stop you  . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, there isn&#8217;t a constitutional right to freedom of speech, but I don&#8217;t think that means you can&#8217;t ever refer to &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221; in an Australian context. If you choose to disagree, I can&#8217;t stop you  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Most Peculiar Mama</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54519</link>
		<dc:creator>Most Peculiar Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;:&quot;...despite their potentially crippling effect on freedom of speech...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe you could point to us the relevant passage in the Australian Constitution that confers upon its citizenry the right to &quot;free speech&quot;?

Or will you plead the Fifth Amendment?

Next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>:&#8221;&#8230;despite their potentially crippling effect on freedom of speech&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Maybe you could point to us the relevant passage in the Australian Constitution that confers upon its citizenry the right to &#8220;free speech&#8221;?</p>
<p>Or will you plead the Fifth Amendment?</p>
<p>Next.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete WN</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54517</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete WN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>samefag - Fail!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>samefag - Fail!</p>
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		<title>By: A government big enough to give you everything, is strong enough to take everything you have.</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54512</link>
		<dc:creator>A government big enough to give you everything, is strong enough to take everything you have.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL^^Author Pawned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL^^Author Pawned.</p>
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		<title>By: October</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/20/the-copyright-outrage-the-geeks-forgot-to-mention/#comment-54504</link>
		<dc:creator>October</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Author,

I didn&#039;t read your article as your first paragraph contained no information or hook of any kind. I even tried to read your second paragraph out of respect to Crikey, but there was nothing there, either.

If Crikey expects to survive with his kind of sloppy, self indulgent writing – blogorrhea instead of journalism – it is in for a nasty shock, especially if it expects to be paid for it.

A Reader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Author,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read your article as your first paragraph contained no information or hook of any kind. I even tried to read your second paragraph out of respect to Crikey, but there was nothing there, either.</p>
<p>If Crikey expects to survive with his kind of sloppy, self indulgent writing – blogorrhea instead of journalism – it is in for a nasty shock, especially if it expects to be paid for it.</p>
<p>A Reader</p>
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