I know love is blind but this is ludicrous.

I can only add something to your comment “I’d say the only thing people find attractive about Turnbull is his $$$$$$$$$$$”…and if one is a woman I’d be very careful not to antagonise his Missussss….who is the Deus ex machina behind him.

I’d say the only thing people find attractive about Turnbull is his $$$$$$$$$$.

I’m 6’1 and was recently standing near him in London and would say he would roughly be between a solid 5’10 to 6’0 at best, most likely 5’10 or 5’11 but certainly not 185cm…

I’m not sure that Malcolm will try to make the point that the CPRS will be useless for carbon pollution reduction because if that were his plan, he wouldn’t have gone as far as he has in negotiations with the government - but who knows? Anything is possible.

Venise,

I think it must be that Malcolm is often around very tall men and so people get the impression that he is short. I have heard that from other people as well. Someone saw my facebook photo with Malcolm and said “Malcolm has grown!” Have a look and you will see what I mean.

I am the same height as you and if Turnbull is nineteen centimetres taller than me I will cheerfully eat a large packet of peanuts. Yuk, yuk, yuk I hate them.

Gotta get back to the grind. Seeya

Which is: Rudd, Minchin and Tucky are after Malcolm’s head and CPRS is unwinnable for him whichever way it swings.

It’s not an opinion poll about a Green candidate in one of the Lib’s safest seats in the country, nor is it a debate about Malcolm’s s_x appeal to ladies, whether or not they have Majorcan blood in them.

Malcolm is pretty well stuffed on this issue, and the longer the story runs, the worse it looks for him.

Which is a pity, because at its base, the CPRS isn’t going to achieve diddly-squat in carbon pollution reduction. If malcolm would only make that point, his party might just regather behind him, regardless of whether or not he advocates that, somewhere down the track, Australia actually do something effective to reduce GHG emissions.

That is his only “out”, and I expect him to play this card in parliament, about Wednesday afternoon.

I agree that it’s good to get away from the religious right. They’re really crazy.

Malcolm is not short. He would be about 185 centimetres. I have a photo of myself with him. I’m 166 centimetres and you can see in the photo that Malcolm is a lot taller than me.

Nor would I care so cast ‘nasturstians’ (however you spell it) at these guys, but love for another man in politics may be non-politique.

Barack Obama is a fine looking man and it is so refreshing to find an American politician (let alone the President) having a political agenda that hasn’t been soaked in the brine of relentless far right wing religious fundamentalism - think George W Bush and his refusal to allow aid agencies to offer help to the worlds aids-stricken and starving third world victims, unless they deleted all suggestions of using birth-control methods and condoms.

The supporting by the Republican Party of the rust-bucket southern states, the prejudices of the red-necks and their kow-towing to America’s military might…Look, there’s a war which has broken out between the Isle of Man and Wales. We Americans will not stand by and see these two mighty nations reduced to ashes. Ho hum.

Speaking as your normal highly-sexed heterosexual woman, I have to say neither Malcolm Turnbull or Kevin Rudd do a thing for me. Both men are too short. My late grandmother always told me. “Venise do not trust small men. Because the smaller they are, the more big are their complexes. Always remember hija, no small man gives a woman short-stemmed roses.” It took me for ever to understand what this gorgeous and ravishingly beautiful little woman from Corsica was on about. Who am I to argue with such wisdom?

I knew about Clive Hamilton’s views on internet censorship. One of the best things about the internet is that it is not censored, other than in China. I hope it stays that way.

Apparently he also calls for the ‘suspension of the democratic process’ to fight climate change.

I would be interested to know about the nasty side issues, but I recognise that you may not want to say what they are.

the mood over here is very similar to November 2007 back in Australia. It is time for a change over here and the Labour Party has not a hope in hell of winning the election in early 2010.

Whilst I am not too keen to comment on his appearance, I think you are onto something with Turnbull. You can atleast look up to Turnbull whilst Rudd is quite plainly, just a politician with an arts degree.

I was lucky enough to meet him a few months ago whilst he was in London meeting with David Cameron, who will be the next PM of the UK. He actually comes across as a fair dinkum good bloke and is alot more charismatic than Rudd.

Of course Malcolm is very appealing to many of the people, male and female, who meet him in person. A large proportion of the women, and a significant proportion of the men, in his electorate are in love with him. He received any number of marriage proposals during the 2007 election campaign, even though he is already married! That’s an added bonus for him. But he is not just an incredibly attractive individual - he is also a genuinely good man.

Barack Obama is also quite attractive, but his increasingly left-wing approach outweighs his pleasant appearance and eloquent speeches.

The fact that someone can debate a point with passion, and score the highest points whilst being irredeemably opposed to it. Earns from me despair, angst and a deep-seated desire never to vote for him.

The Greens, people towards whom I’m always looking for ways to encourage. Have really gone to town in the electorate of Higgins-my home town electorate. They are standing a man called Clive Hamilton at the by-election. Yes this same man is a fervent supporter of censorship of the internet plus one or two very nasty
side issues. No wonder the Greens are doomed never to rise above their initial interest vote. Labor aren’t deigning to field a candidate at all, and I refuse to vote for the Libs. Which is a lovely dilemma, I don’t think.

Hell, I’m yawning my head off. /Gotta go.

I’d still rather someone else rather than a career public servant. I don’t really like Rudd or Turnbull but atleast Turnbull has some runs on the board external to the public service and may infact, be in politics for the right reason. He’ll never be PM however.

Love or hate John Howard, he was prime minister for 11 years and had more balls than Rudd. I can’t say I liked Howard too much myself but a PM like Rudd is an indictment on our country. A friggen arts graduate with a major in chinese history or whatever it is!!!! I live in London and think Brown is an indictment on the UK too. Obama is great.

Give Rudd credit, he has done some very important symbolic speeches, but he has not done anything of tangible substance after 2 years. After his election campaign he deserves a severe wrap across his knuckles for failing to deliver anything!

“About six to eight months ago he was being interviewed on Channel Two. Someone fed him a Dorothy Dixer and our Malcolm sailed ahead with his carefully rehearsed answer. He was half way through one of his eternal monologues when a minder bent over to tell him he had been fed the wrong question. Without turning a hair he continued on with the monologue, this time arguing completely against his original hypothesis. He wasn’t embarrassed, fazed or flummoxed. “

That’s the lawyer in him. He can argue either side of a case.

“Turnbull set up this public servant in an elaborate lie in order to snare Kevin Rudd. Then with cold and very calculated cruelty-knowing the unfortunate Grech was in a psychiatric ward as a result of all this-he gaily fed him to the media-sharks.”

If I believed that, I wouldn’t support him either. I do not believe Malcolm was lying in that series of events. He wanted to bring down Kevin Rudd, but he also believed he had a just cause and Godwin Grech came to him rather than the other way around. I do not believe that Grech was an innocent victim. He had been around for a long time. He would not be so easily manipulated. If Malcolm made a mistake, it was to grab the wrong opportunity with both hands.

About six to eight months ago he was being interviewed on Channel Two. Someone fed him a Dorothy Dixer and our Malcolm sailed ahead with his carefully rehearsed answer. He was half way through one of his eternal monologues when a minder bent over to tell him he had been fed the wrong question. Without turning a hair he continued on with the monologue, this time arguing completely against his original hypothesis. He wasn’t embarrassed, fazed or flummoxed.

Then, of course, there was the Godwin Grech affair. Turnbull set up this public servant in an elaborate lie in order to snare Kevin Rudd. Then with cold and very calculated cruelty-knowing the unfortunate Grech was in a psychiatric ward as a result of all this-he gaily fed him to the media-sharks.

Further: No matter how intelligent he is, he has the wrong sort of intelligence. A gift for hard work and business does not necessarily translate into political smarts.
Also, I have to disagree with Bernard who continues to harbour kindly thoughts about Malcolm Turnbull: Bernard says he is a decent man. No decent human being would use other people with such hard, cynical disregard of another human being. I dare say he had his person assistant drop Grech a line; wishing him a speedy recovery, which makes the whole thing even more deplorable.

To put it mildly, Kevin Rudd, gives me the shits but he and his cabinet have, thus far, not come within a bull’s roar of the evil perpetuated by the despicable John Howard, and his bully-boy thugs.

Re: NICK MINCHIN: No matter how much he despises the Climate Change assenters. there is, about his cold exterior an implacable quality which seems to suggest he does more than hate Malcolm Turnbull. His hatred is so virulent and vituperative-in a frigid manner, that I am forced to ask myself if he is working for Kevin Rudd. I am not saying it is so. Merely that it is a question I ask myself.

I don’t really like Rudd or Turnbull but if it came to the cruch, I’d probably actually go with Turnbull as he seems to believe in what he talks about, pity the majority of his party doesn’t.

I also despise politicians that have been career public servants, let alone an arts graduate. Atleast Turnbull has had some modicum of success outside of politics which kids could aspire to.

I think the latest polling is correct although I suspect if the ALP had an effective opposition, Rudds popularity would be revised downward. I know alot of people that are tiring of the marketing machine that is yet to make an effective hard decision.

At the end of the day if the ALP could understand the relationship between taxes and spending and the Coalition could be better balanced in their policies, I’d probably vote for a major party.