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	<title>Comments on: Crikey costs trimmed, but not the attitude</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-45500</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The appointment of Amanda Gome is a concern for me. While obviously immensely capable and effective, her SmartCompany website is definitely too partisan and her own articles are blatant industry-lobbying. 

More than that, the constant agonising about Gen-Y as the source of all staffing and management issues for business around the country quite frankly reeks all over the SmartCompany website.

Crikey is supposed to take a broader perspective than the business &quot;growth at all costs&quot; perspective only and I have concerns about the editorial independence of crikey in this move.

If the content of crikey changes to include a hint of Gen-y bashing or industry lobbying, I will have to cancel my subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The appointment of Amanda Gome is a concern for me. While obviously immensely capable and effective, her SmartCompany website is definitely too partisan and her own articles are blatant industry-lobbying. </p>
<p>More than that, the constant agonising about Gen-Y as the source of all staffing and management issues for business around the country quite frankly reeks all over the SmartCompany website.</p>
<p>Crikey is supposed to take a broader perspective than the business &#8220;growth at all costs&#8221; perspective only and I have concerns about the editorial independence of crikey in this move.</p>
<p>If the content of crikey changes to include a hint of Gen-y bashing or industry lobbying, I will have to cancel my subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-45426</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am slowly being weaned off daily press but not yet. Tradition is a strong beast. I look at some blogs in my area. Never read croakey but feel bad for the participants. Health like Indigenous struggle are often depressing topics, and I hope and trust others stronger than me carry it forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am slowly being weaned off daily press but not yet. Tradition is a strong beast. I look at some blogs in my area. Never read croakey but feel bad for the participants. Health like Indigenous struggle are often depressing topics, and I hope and trust others stronger than me carry it forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-45351</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are only two requirements for a successful blog.

1. Needs to be updated at regular intervals (one post every couple of days at the least)
2. Needs to provide insightful news/commentary not gained elsewhere.

By any definition, Croaky provides those needs (as does planetalking and Pollytics). Removing any of these three would be quite detremental to the whole crikey experience in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only two requirements for a successful blog.</p>
<p>1. Needs to be updated at regular intervals (one post every couple of days at the least)<br />
2. Needs to provide insightful news/commentary not gained elsewhere.</p>
<p>By any definition, Croaky provides those needs (as does planetalking and Pollytics). Removing any of these three would be quite detremental to the whole crikey experience in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: wyane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-45138</link>
		<dc:creator>wyane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since subscribing to the Daily email, I hardly buy the paper (SMH) anymore. As well as the email, I find the links you provide on the website homepage to be a part of my daily reading.

I visit the blogs only when posts are included or referenced in the Daily email.

Please don&#039;t break our Crikey, don&#039;t jump the shark. Tread along lines of commercialism very carefully. After all, it is the &quot;independent&quot; journalism that this subscriber (and I suspect most others) appreciates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since subscribing to the Daily email, I hardly buy the paper (SMH) anymore. As well as the email, I find the links you provide on the website homepage to be a part of my daily reading.</p>
<p>I visit the blogs only when posts are included or referenced in the Daily email.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t break our Crikey, don&#8217;t jump the shark. Tread along lines of commercialism very carefully. After all, it is the &#8220;independent&#8221; journalism that this subscriber (and I suspect most others) appreciates.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Maher</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44844</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44843</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry: Amber and I are responsible for all the content that goes up on the website (including graphics, videos, aggregation, etc), though we both contribute to the email sporadically. Sometimes it goes unbylined. 

You can see an archive of many of my stories &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crikey.com.au/author/rbrown/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and Amber&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crikey.com.au/author/amberjamieson/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry: Amber and I are responsible for all the content that goes up on the website (including graphics, videos, aggregation, etc), though we both contribute to the email sporadically. Sometimes it goes unbylined. </p>
<p>You can see an archive of many of my stories <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/author/rbrown/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and Amber&#8217;s <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/author/amberjamieson/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44831</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole article had a bizarre, ghost-above-the-body style of speech about it.  What&#039;s wrong with &quot;Crikey&quot; writing in the first person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole article had a bizarre, ghost-above-the-body style of speech about it.  What&#8217;s wrong with &#8220;Crikey&#8221; writing in the first person?</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44801</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inevitable I suppose, gelt beats integrity every time. If, in the next 6months, Crikey starts reviewing &quot;watches, BMW &amp; cameras&quot; it can kiss my (pension discounted) subscription goodbye. 
Just assure us that you don&#039;t pay Sinclair Davidson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inevitable I suppose, gelt beats integrity every time. If, in the next 6months, Crikey starts reviewing &#8220;watches, BMW &amp; cameras&#8221; it can kiss my (pension discounted) subscription goodbye.<br />
Just assure us that you don&#8217;t pay Sinclair Davidson.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44791</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Croakey has been valuable, not only for those of us who read it and contribute, but also because it provides a forum for those interested in public health to spread the fact that the ideas in Croakey are being debated. This generates valuable debate which often spills over to interviews and discussions in other media 

Melissa Sweet is a brilliant journalist and offers fair and credible contributions at a rate that is amazing for the small amount she has been paid. 

Please keep Melissa and Croakey going.  

Rosemary Stanton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Croakey has been valuable, not only for those of us who read it and contribute, but also because it provides a forum for those interested in public health to spread the fact that the ideas in Croakey are being debated. This generates valuable debate which often spills over to interviews and discussions in other media </p>
<p>Melissa Sweet is a brilliant journalist and offers fair and credible contributions at a rate that is amazing for the small amount she has been paid. </p>
<p>Please keep Melissa and Croakey going.  </p>
<p>Rosemary Stanton</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44782</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike Terry, I read some of the blogs avidly. Most I rarely read. There is an argument I suppose for no blogs, but would the quality content make it into Crikey&#039;s daily menu?

If the Crikey cuts are “very small” why kill off specialist policy blogs like Croakey? What’s the crikerion here? 17,000 unique visitors not good enough? Seems damned good to me for a “specialist” topic that affects everyone. Much quality journalism is perforce similar to Croakey: in depth, inside and exposing the status quo. Where else can the public get this on health? The effect of such blogs is far greater than their traffic suggests, just as voluminous traffic may just reflect the noisy isshoo de jour and consequent punch and judy headbanging. Remember that Bolt’s “million hits” are mostly just reflex ideological ejaculations splattering the ceiling.

Many of those 17,000 Croakers no doubt read other things on Crikey, but if you remove their “core interest”, they may vanish. The same doesn’t apply to the film, lit, and “culture” blogs (the latter appears moribund-nothing for two months). You can get film and litcrit elsewhere. But you won’t find much on aviation- I hope it survives. And Bob Gosford on northern Australia is unique. A blog often with real substance. Northern Australia is unpleasant but big. We need Gosford.

And we need Margaret Simons of course. Always trenchant. At least she marches on, for the moment.

But it’s the justification for the cuts that bothers me most: so Crikey can do more “politics, media and public affairs”. Politics is important, but we’re inundated with it. Also, it’s mostly the daily froth and bubble- Capt. Rudd bribes Tamil refugees aboard the “Icelandic Banker” while Barnaby moons on the beach…. Polls are relevant, but eyeglazing for many. “Media” also tends to be the daily stoush, which again is interesting but a bit limited. “Public affairs” is vague- if it includes (as I assume it does) all the big issues popping up daily or weekly, then fine. The rest of the media do a shedload of this stuff, though Crikey’s “attitude” gives it an edge. There needs to be more depth.There’s not much on the environment for example, except for climate change (which topic monopolises the blog Rooted). Overall, I look for depth in crucial policy areas, exposing rot, deceit and failure. That takes insiders, specialists and/or investigative journos. A big ask I suppose, but I’m really not that interested in endless general commentary on current affairs, whether it’s Gonzo-lite or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike Terry, I read some of the blogs avidly. Most I rarely read. There is an argument I suppose for no blogs, but would the quality content make it into Crikey&#8217;s daily menu?</p>
<p>If the Crikey cuts are “very small” why kill off specialist policy blogs like Croakey? What’s the crikerion here? 17,000 unique visitors not good enough? Seems damned good to me for a “specialist” topic that affects everyone. Much quality journalism is perforce similar to Croakey: in depth, inside and exposing the status quo. Where else can the public get this on health? The effect of such blogs is far greater than their traffic suggests, just as voluminous traffic may just reflect the noisy isshoo de jour and consequent punch and judy headbanging. Remember that Bolt’s “million hits” are mostly just reflex ideological ejaculations splattering the ceiling.</p>
<p>Many of those 17,000 Croakers no doubt read other things on Crikey, but if you remove their “core interest”, they may vanish. The same doesn’t apply to the film, lit, and “culture” blogs (the latter appears moribund-nothing for two months). You can get film and litcrit elsewhere. But you won’t find much on aviation- I hope it survives. And Bob Gosford on northern Australia is unique. A blog often with real substance. Northern Australia is unpleasant but big. We need Gosford.</p>
<p>And we need Margaret Simons of course. Always trenchant. At least she marches on, for the moment.</p>
<p>But it’s the justification for the cuts that bothers me most: so Crikey can do more “politics, media and public affairs”. Politics is important, but we’re inundated with it. Also, it’s mostly the daily froth and bubble- Capt. Rudd bribes Tamil refugees aboard the “Icelandic Banker” while Barnaby moons on the beach…. Polls are relevant, but eyeglazing for many. “Media” also tends to be the daily stoush, which again is interesting but a bit limited. “Public affairs” is vague- if it includes (as I assume it does) all the big issues popping up daily or weekly, then fine. The rest of the media do a shedload of this stuff, though Crikey’s “attitude” gives it an edge. There needs to be more depth.There’s not much on the environment for example, except for climate change (which topic monopolises the blog Rooted). Overall, I look for depth in crucial policy areas, exposing rot, deceit and failure. That takes insiders, specialists and/or investigative journos. A big ask I suppose, but I’m really not that interested in endless general commentary on current affairs, whether it’s Gonzo-lite or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Gretton</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44778</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Gretton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terry Maher: Both Ruth and Amber have contributed; just don&#039;t ask me to remember when or where.

@Glenn: I rarely look at the blogs. What&#039;s important to me is getting news and articles that I wouldn&#039;t expect to find in the mainstream media, plus insightful analysis from the likes of Keane, Rundle, Simons, and others; the work of regulars like Dyer, Farmer, Schwab; and the many contributors from specialised areas. Then there&#039;s First Dog, without whom my day wouldn&#039;t be complete. 

However, if ever the content becomes anodyne, I shall cancel my subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terry Maher: Both Ruth and Amber have contributed; just don&#8217;t ask me to remember when or where.</p>
<p>@Glenn: I rarely look at the blogs. What&#8217;s important to me is getting news and articles that I wouldn&#8217;t expect to find in the mainstream media, plus insightful analysis from the likes of Keane, Rundle, Simons, and others; the work of regulars like Dyer, Farmer, Schwab; and the many contributors from specialised areas. Then there&#8217;s First Dog, without whom my day wouldn&#8217;t be complete. </p>
<p>However, if ever the content becomes anodyne, I shall cancel my subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Maher</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44724</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please tell me exactly what Ruth Brown and Amber Jamieson do at Crikey? They are both listed in the skitebox as &quot;journalists&quot; but I have never seen their bylines or ever heard of them. Perhaps they are highly-paid members of your backbench?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell me exactly what Ruth Brown and Amber Jamieson do at Crikey? They are both listed in the skitebox as &#8220;journalists&#8221; but I have never seen their bylines or ever heard of them. Perhaps they are highly-paid members of your backbench?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44716</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogs ? I didn&#039;t even know you had them and I&#039;ve never looked too hard on the web site.
Crikeys value to me is the email stories and reports , I hardly ever go to the web site.

And it&#039;s cheap.

I get more useful information from Crikey than any other source regardless of price.

Ok the web sites down, just give the job to me and I&#039;ll do it for next to nothing  just for fun.

I used to run a national portal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs ? I didn&#8217;t even know you had them and I&#8217;ve never looked too hard on the web site.<br />
Crikeys value to me is the email stories and reports , I hardly ever go to the web site.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s cheap.</p>
<p>I get more useful information from Crikey than any other source regardless of price.</p>
<p>Ok the web sites down, just give the job to me and I&#8217;ll do it for next to nothing  just for fun.</p>
<p>I used to run a national portal.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Maher</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/09/crikey-costs-trimmed-but-not-the-attitude/#comment-44696</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recently gelded base-grade contributor to Crikey for 10 years, might I suggest that if the new-fangled Crikey blogs are not part of the solution, they just might be the entire problem. Give &#039;em the flick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recently gelded base-grade contributor to Crikey for 10 years, might I suggest that if the new-fangled Crikey blogs are not part of the solution, they just might be the entire problem. Give &#8216;em the flick!</p>
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