Comments on: In climate denial: this is not scepticism http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:48:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Venise Alstergren http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44177 Venise Alstergren Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:36:17 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44177 Excellent Bernard but you must be sick of hearing it. But, in a way I wish I was a denialist just so I could have changed my vote the minute old Caught On Fire-Danny Nalliah jumped on the wagon. The conservatives have this awesome desire to trash any opinion that they didn't think of. Lets face it, they don't very often have an idea of their own. Of the ones who get orgasmic about denial I sometimes wonder if they are too scared to accept it, on the grounds they would have to accept the other side of the equation. Namely that the acceptance that the world will only survive if the human race agrees to limit the amount of children we have. The urge to reproduce is the thing which is killing us. Perhaps the world's scientists will come up with a pill to fix that desire. Excellent Bernard but you must be sick of hearing it. But, in a way I wish I was a denialist just so I could have changed my vote the minute old Caught On Fire-Danny Nalliah jumped on the wagon.

The conservatives have this awesome desire to trash any opinion that they didn’t think of. Lets face it, they don’t very often have an idea of their own.

Of the ones who get orgasmic about denial I sometimes wonder if they are too scared to accept it, on the grounds they would have to accept the other side of the equation. Namely that the acceptance that the world will only survive if the human race agrees to limit the amount of children we have.

The urge to reproduce is the thing which is killing us. Perhaps the world’s scientists will come up with a pill to fix that desire.

]]> By: baal http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44118 baal Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:51:33 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44118 The way people bang on about climate change does have a deadening effect on all but the dedicated Gores, Monbiots and Radio National talkback callers - who display such a sense of such paranoid smugness it's not surprising they attract kneejerk antagonism. The way people bang on about climate change does have a deadening effect on all but the dedicated Gores, Monbiots and Radio National talkback callers - who display such a sense of such paranoid smugness it’s not surprising they attract kneejerk antagonism.

]]> By: Kim Serca http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44069 Kim Serca Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:24:19 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44069 By an incredible coincidence BK I spoke to Monbiot and he said he'd always considered you a burnt-out MOR PS type with a series of cliches about left and right macro-ed on your keyboard, and pop culture refs which stopped at 1985.... By an incredible coincidence BK I spoke to Monbiot and he said he’d always considered you a burnt-out MOR PS type with a series of cliches about left and right macro-ed on your keyboard, and pop culture refs which stopped at 1985….

]]> By: Nadia David http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44010 Nadia David Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:32:28 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44010 Nice article, Bernard. I had never given much thought about the use of the word 'sceptic' in climate change arena and have to agree with you. Climate change deniers are really the same people who believe Obama was born in Kenya, are members of the church of Scientology, and think the Government blew up the World Trade Centre. To deny the existence of climate change is to take one hell of a leap of faith in the face of overwhelming evidence, and to simply stay down that hole refusing to come out. That isn't scepticism, that's just denial. *Waves to Robert down the hole* Nice article, Bernard. I had never given much thought about the use of the word ‘sceptic’ in climate change arena and have to agree with you. Climate change deniers are really the same people who believe Obama was born in Kenya, are members of the church of Scientology, and think the Government blew up the World Trade Centre. To deny the existence of climate change is to take one hell of a leap of faith in the face of overwhelming evidence, and to simply stay down that hole refusing to come out. That isn’t scepticism, that’s just denial. *Waves to Robert down the hole*

]]> By: Robert Barwick http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44005 Robert Barwick Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:18:57 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/04/in-climate-denial-this-is-not-scepticism/#comment-44005 Consider for a moment, Bernard, your characterisation of the distinction between sceptics and deniers, in regards to your own position, which is of exactly the same quality as your definition of deniers. With no basis, you "reflexively" dismiss the natural climate change position. Consider for a moment, Bernard, your characterisation of the distinction between sceptics and deniers, in regards to your own position, which is of exactly the same quality as your definition of deniers. With no basis, you “reflexively” dismiss the natural climate change position.

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