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	<title>Comments on: Kevin Rudd knows nothing, even less than Alan Jones</title>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/03/kevin-rudd-knows-nothing-even-less-than-alan-jones/#comment-43948</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of heat and smoke coming from this thread, but not a lot of reliable stuff.

Firstly, don&#039;t jump to any conclusions about the sample or the reasons behind it.  The next fortnight will see polls that either confirm the swing or confirm the lack of swing.  That&#039;s the nature of statistics, sampling and polls.

These subsequent polls will also delve into the reasons.

Patience, children... the truth will become clearer by the end of this month, and then the accusations and rationalisation can begin.  Until then, keep reading good old Possum and counting your blessings that your failings (imagined or otherwise) are not displayed publicly and pontificated upon  fortnightly or better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of heat and smoke coming from this thread, but not a lot of reliable stuff.</p>
<p>Firstly, don&#8217;t jump to any conclusions about the sample or the reasons behind it.  The next fortnight will see polls that either confirm the swing or confirm the lack of swing.  That&#8217;s the nature of statistics, sampling and polls.</p>
<p>These subsequent polls will also delve into the reasons.</p>
<p>Patience, children&#8230; the truth will become clearer by the end of this month, and then the accusations and rationalisation can begin.  Until then, keep reading good old Possum and counting your blessings that your failings (imagined or otherwise) are not displayed publicly and pontificated upon  fortnightly or better.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/03/kevin-rudd-knows-nothing-even-less-than-alan-jones/#comment-43947</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read Jonestown.

Turn him off.

Move on.

This man is a big negative in everything he touches.  Most of all - don&#039;t feed him.

We need more reporting and less opinion pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Jonestown.</p>
<p>Turn him off.</p>
<p>Move on.</p>
<p>This man is a big negative in everything he touches.  Most of all - don&#8217;t feed him.</p>
<p>We need more reporting and less opinion pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/03/kevin-rudd-knows-nothing-even-less-than-alan-jones/#comment-43928</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a whole new meaning to shock jock! Malcolm must have staggered out of the studio feeling like he’d gone a few rounds with a cattle prod! Jones’ 30-minutes spiteful malicious hysterical tirade is bad radio - stressful stuff. His way or the highway, you’re a laggard Turnbull and get out of my space message is bullying at its best. I feel sorry for the kids he must have tormented as a teacher if this is Jones in his mellow years. The man needs to read a transcript of his performance and apologise to his listeners, the Liberal Party and Malcolm for turning a radio program into a personal punching bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a whole new meaning to shock jock! Malcolm must have staggered out of the studio feeling like he’d gone a few rounds with a cattle prod! Jones’ 30-minutes spiteful malicious hysterical tirade is bad radio - stressful stuff. His way or the highway, you’re a laggard Turnbull and get out of my space message is bullying at its best. I feel sorry for the kids he must have tormented as a teacher if this is Jones in his mellow years. The man needs to read a transcript of his performance and apologise to his listeners, the Liberal Party and Malcolm for turning a radio program into a personal punching bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz45</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/03/kevin-rudd-knows-nothing-even-less-than-alan-jones/#comment-43897</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agre more with both sentiments above. Allan Jones just gets on my goat. I think he&#039;s a misogynist neo-con+??. He didn&#039;t even know what he was talking about most of the time. Kevin Rudd is, as has been pointed out, treating us like we&#039;re stupid, which gets to me every time. I listen to ABC Radio all day, and watch ABC News and The 7.30Report in the evening, and I&#039;m getting sick of the whole damned thing. I wish journalists, including Kerry O&#039;Brien would challenge Rudd &amp; Turnbull with the facts, instead of nonsense questions - over and over again! Chris Urlman is into having an Opinion Piece these days, rather then presenting facts as they occurred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agre more with both sentiments above. Allan Jones just gets on my goat. I think he&#8217;s a misogynist neo-con+??. He didn&#8217;t even know what he was talking about most of the time. Kevin Rudd is, as has been pointed out, treating us like we&#8217;re stupid, which gets to me every time. I listen to ABC Radio all day, and watch ABC News and The 7.30Report in the evening, and I&#8217;m getting sick of the whole damned thing. I wish journalists, including Kerry O&#8217;Brien would challenge Rudd &amp; Turnbull with the facts, instead of nonsense questions - over and over again! Chris Urlman is into having an Opinion Piece these days, rather then presenting facts as they occurred?</p>
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		<title>By: Paulg</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/03/kevin-rudd-knows-nothing-even-less-than-alan-jones/#comment-43896</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That interview between Jones and Turnbull is just plain weird, but hugely entertaining. Perhaps that is Jones&#039; sole purpose. Jones is a nonsensical radical dressed as a conservative. Poor Malcolm always tries to be principled, logical and reasonable (except when he tries to play politics a la the Ute/Grech email fiasco) but faces an uphill battle dealing with not only the likes of Jones but many in his own team such as Abbott who never fails to try for a cheap political shot based usually on a  matter with no factual basis and frequently accompanied by that ubiquitous inaudible whistle. 

Kevin Rudd has handled the issues beaten up following the rescue at sea by an Australian vessel of Sri Lankan Citizens as well as could be. Nothing sloppy at all in the PM&#039;s responses to a difficult situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That interview between Jones and Turnbull is just plain weird, but hugely entertaining. Perhaps that is Jones&#8217; sole purpose. Jones is a nonsensical radical dressed as a conservative. Poor Malcolm always tries to be principled, logical and reasonable (except when he tries to play politics a la the Ute/Grech email fiasco) but faces an uphill battle dealing with not only the likes of Jones but many in his own team such as Abbott who never fails to try for a cheap political shot based usually on a  matter with no factual basis and frequently accompanied by that ubiquitous inaudible whistle. </p>
<p>Kevin Rudd has handled the issues beaten up following the rescue at sea by an Australian vessel of Sri Lankan Citizens as well as could be. Nothing sloppy at all in the PM&#8217;s responses to a difficult situation.</p>
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		<title>By: baal</title>
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		<dc:creator>baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One must remember that listening to Alan Jones is a minority activity - around 14% of the Sydney radio audience (plus syndications) which means 86% don&#039;t listen - and that&#039;s only radio listeners. However while the rest of the media (including Crikey) give the man oxygen he continues to breathe enough hot air into the embers of his career to to convince himself, at least, it is still alive. Perhaps Turnbull feels sorry for him as he slides into total irrelevance. Commendable generosity but wasted time and energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must remember that listening to Alan Jones is a minority activity - around 14% of the Sydney radio audience (plus syndications) which means 86% don&#8217;t listen - and that&#8217;s only radio listeners. However while the rest of the media (including Crikey) give the man oxygen he continues to breathe enough hot air into the embers of his career to to convince himself, at least, it is still alive. Perhaps Turnbull feels sorry for him as he slides into total irrelevance. Commendable generosity but wasted time and energy.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/03/kevin-rudd-knows-nothing-even-less-than-alan-jones/#comment-43875</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is obvious, Christian church going PM Rudd has difficulty with the truth. This is not personal to him of course, most pollies regard the odd dabble in lies as part of the territory. However Rudd makes a great issue of his religious connection and so much so he does door stops on Sundays after attending church. Admirable to show the electorate he is a God fearing man(?), but when it comes to being loose with the truth Kevin seems to be able to seperate Church from State as it suits. His sudden no knowledge of the goings on with the Oceanic Viking and last night his lack of anything about the sinking boat in the Timor sea, is just too damn stupid. It may be he treats the Opposition as a bunch of idiotic imbociles who can be dealt any hand Rudd sees fit to suit his particular purposes. However, as he has found out this morning, the electorate at large is not as stupid. I mentioned in one of Crikeys blogs when the &#039;Indonesian Solution&#039; was first mooted, the PM was treading on dangerous ground and the Australian public would be quick to send the Govt a message if it appeared they were playing political games. 
I have a feeling it is not that the voters wish to return to the bad  days of Howard and Ruddock and cronies but they want definite action, not the sloppy carryings on of the past 3 weeks. Plus surely, the best way to antagonise Australians is to dish out millions of dollars to an acknowledged corrupt regime, namely Indonesia, for what??? That country has an appalling human rights record but somehow Rudd sees wisdom in paying a large amount of money with no sure result.

This poll may be the wake up call the PM and his Ministers  need to bring them back to reality. Already there are rumblings from the back bench and the union bosses, the PM ignores them at his peril. He has seen what has happened to the Opposition and while such a rebellion is hardly likely in Labor ranks, at this stage, the will to survive sometimes outweighs  loyalty to the boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious, Christian church going PM Rudd has difficulty with the truth. This is not personal to him of course, most pollies regard the odd dabble in lies as part of the territory. However Rudd makes a great issue of his religious connection and so much so he does door stops on Sundays after attending church. Admirable to show the electorate he is a God fearing man(?), but when it comes to being loose with the truth Kevin seems to be able to seperate Church from State as it suits. His sudden no knowledge of the goings on with the Oceanic Viking and last night his lack of anything about the sinking boat in the Timor sea, is just too damn stupid. It may be he treats the Opposition as a bunch of idiotic imbociles who can be dealt any hand Rudd sees fit to suit his particular purposes. However, as he has found out this morning, the electorate at large is not as stupid. I mentioned in one of Crikeys blogs when the &#8216;Indonesian Solution&#8217; was first mooted, the PM was treading on dangerous ground and the Australian public would be quick to send the Govt a message if it appeared they were playing political games.<br />
I have a feeling it is not that the voters wish to return to the bad  days of Howard and Ruddock and cronies but they want definite action, not the sloppy carryings on of the past 3 weeks. Plus surely, the best way to antagonise Australians is to dish out millions of dollars to an acknowledged corrupt regime, namely Indonesia, for what??? That country has an appalling human rights record but somehow Rudd sees wisdom in paying a large amount of money with no sure result.</p>
<p>This poll may be the wake up call the PM and his Ministers  need to bring them back to reality. Already there are rumblings from the back bench and the union bosses, the PM ignores them at his peril. He has seen what has happened to the Opposition and while such a rebellion is hardly likely in Labor ranks, at this stage, the will to survive sometimes outweighs  loyalty to the boss.</p>
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