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	<title>Comments on: Keating on the stairs: beating or beat up?</title>
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		<title>By: Barry 09</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-44112</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry 09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why its called Limited News.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why its called Limited News.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And can&#039;t even omnipotently sub-edit His own name spaketh undue, what&#039;s more....
*sighs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And can&#8217;t even omnipotently sub-edit His own name spaketh undue, what&#8217;s more&#8230;.<br />
*sighs*</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43990</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What vicious, vindictive, violent Bastard of an omnipitent being doesn&#039;t even have the basic Human decency to exist? Is what I want to know.

*Chortles happily, munching popcorn, enjoying all the Hitchens-Dawkins shadow-boxing du jour, etc *</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What vicious, vindictive, violent Bastard of an omnipitent being doesn&#8217;t even have the basic Human decency to exist? Is what I want to know.</p>
<p>*Chortles happily, munching popcorn, enjoying all the Hitchens-Dawkins shadow-boxing du jour, etc *</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43814</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll leave it then. But I have a small, easily amused mind, and I do find it funny that a nonreligious person can be needled about nonreligion just as easily as a religious person can be.
OK, I&#039;m done, no more ... Friends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll leave it then. But I have a small, easily amused mind, and I do find it funny that a nonreligious person can be needled about nonreligion just as easily as a religious person can be.<br />
OK, I&#8217;m done, no more &#8230; Friends?</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43813</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesMc - off track troll feeding. Sky fairies are the hopeless cause. Here endeth this distraction, get a life (on Earth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesMc - off track troll feeding. Sky fairies are the hopeless cause. Here endeth this distraction, get a life (on Earth).</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43812</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me for getting off the track, but if the deluded belief in God marks an mind beyond rational discourse, and if antitheism is active opposition to the belief in God, rather than mere disbelief ... isn&#039;t that a bit of a hopeless cause? Unless of course one uses the Krushchev option, classify religion as a mental disease and impose involuntary treatment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me for getting off the track, but if the deluded belief in God marks an mind beyond rational discourse, and if antitheism is active opposition to the belief in God, rather than mere disbelief &#8230; isn&#8217;t that a bit of a hopeless cause? Unless of course one uses the Krushchev option, classify religion as a mental disease and impose involuntary treatment</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43802</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesMc - hardly. A &#039;theist&#039; is a god botherer. All religions can&#039;t be correct but they can all be B/S. Anyone so self deluded is beyond rational discourese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesMc - hardly. A &#8216;theist&#8217; is a god botherer. All religions can&#8217;t be correct but they can all be B/S. Anyone so self deluded is beyond rational discourese.</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43789</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An antitheist? You&#039;re opposed to God? That&#039;s either a very uneven match or no match at all, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An antitheist? You&#8217;re opposed to God? That&#8217;s either a very uneven match or no match at all, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43788</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to understand why anyone would read, never mind buy. the Daily Terrible or any iother News Crap. Except that in Sydney the SMH is little more than a throwaway, lifestyle rag.
Thank the gods for the ABC and, given that I&#039;m antitheist, CRIKEY. And that net thingy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to understand why anyone would read, never mind buy. the Daily Terrible or any iother News Crap. Except that in Sydney the SMH is little more than a throwaway, lifestyle rag.<br />
Thank the gods for the ABC and, given that I&#8217;m antitheist, CRIKEY. And that net thingy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43787</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Keating? Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Keating? Who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43750</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS... buy a sunday...

sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS&#8230; buy a sunday&#8230;</p>
<p>sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43749</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the person concerned was a Smith, Brown or Jones, would this have happened?  No.

Was the article an overstatement?  Yes.

Are the Tele and the Sunday Tele repeat offenders?  Yes.

Who cares?  Ms Keating was placed in a no-win situation where, regardless of her actions, the accusations would be made - right or wrong - in a bid to sell papers.  Not to bring the news to the readers - to sell papers.

PS I never, ever, but a sunday paper.  They are essentially a repeat of the saturday version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the person concerned was a Smith, Brown or Jones, would this have happened?  No.</p>
<p>Was the article an overstatement?  Yes.</p>
<p>Are the Tele and the Sunday Tele repeat offenders?  Yes.</p>
<p>Who cares?  Ms Keating was placed in a no-win situation where, regardless of her actions, the accusations would be made - right or wrong - in a bid to sell papers.  Not to bring the news to the readers - to sell papers.</p>
<p>PS I never, ever, but a sunday paper.  They are essentially a repeat of the saturday version.</p>
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		<title>By: shepherdmarilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43748</link>
		<dc:creator>shepherdmarilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Newsltd. should ask Pauline Hanson about fabricated stories or Godwin Grech about fabricated emails.

They are tiresome trolls aren&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Newsltd. should ask Pauline Hanson about fabricated stories or Godwin Grech about fabricated emails.</p>
<p>They are tiresome trolls aren&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43739</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever actually happened, I&#039;ve seen enough brat behaviour from news photographers--who never have any problem getting their side of the story in the papers--to take off my hat to anyone who can piss one of them off enough to result in that Tele story. The lady shows spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever actually happened, I&#8217;ve seen enough brat behaviour from news photographers&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;who never have any problem getting their side of the story in the papers&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;to take off my hat to anyone who can piss one of them off enough to result in that Tele story. The lady shows spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/02/keating-on-the-stairs-beating-or-beat-up/#comment-43711</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God help us given so many serious matters these days. Against my better judgement:

In general media terms the picture trumps the text. So being a flattering image IMHO socialite daughter #1 might be relieved about that (?). As for the alleged temper tantrum it would be unwise to comment and possibly illegal without even getting to statutory tort of privacy. 

Suffice to say one does recall a brother and a certain legal case. Which I hasten to add is equivocal and might feed a set up scenario too.

As for Big Media intrusiveness - it&#039;s not just rich folks who would benefit if an offence was wisely drawn up with a sensible cap. After News ran those bogus interventions in the Qld election with images of HansonNot, they can&#039;t really argue their RTK book on personal privacy issues with much cred, though they are still strong on the Kessing/ security/politics side of RTK. 

Socialite daughter #1 might best be served by a big does of pragmatism absent such a privacy law. Certainly vodka and arguments don&#039;t mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God help us given so many serious matters these days. Against my better judgement:</p>
<p>In general media terms the picture trumps the text. So being a flattering image IMHO socialite daughter #1 might be relieved about that (?). As for the alleged temper tantrum it would be unwise to comment and possibly illegal without even getting to statutory tort of privacy. </p>
<p>Suffice to say one does recall a brother and a certain legal case. Which I hasten to add is equivocal and might feed a set up scenario too.</p>
<p>As for Big Media intrusiveness - it&#8217;s not just rich folks who would benefit if an offence was wisely drawn up with a sensible cap. After News ran those bogus interventions in the Qld election with images of HansonNot, they can&#8217;t really argue their RTK book on personal privacy issues with much cred, though they are still strong on the Kessing/ security/politics side of RTK. </p>
<p>Socialite daughter #1 might best be served by a big does of pragmatism absent such a privacy law. Certainly vodka and arguments don&#8217;t mix.</p>
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