Comments on: Question Time fun: See Kevin run. See Kevin hide. http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:22:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/#comment-43292 Tom McLoughlin Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:33:58 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/#comment-43292 It's effective repudiation by increments of the Refugee Convention coming at PM Rudd from one side, and the West Atlas oil spill undermining the case for $50B Gorgon development on Kimberley coming from another side, and the likely failure of CPRS crueling his poise at Copenhagen from another direction, and unconvincing case for a $43 billion NBN with Telstra ADSL via copper not half bad option, so what does Ruddy do ..... He defaults to his old ALP mates in the big developer sector in his speech last night, saying now the Feds (Arbib?) will be gatekeepers on those budget construction dollars, not the States. It's NSW Inc on the national stage - the Libs were strangely correct in their predictions, Rudd is an extension of the NSW Right. Speaking of which - can't you justify any massive urban 'planning' budget boondoggle by applying a projection of 30 years in the future? I love a big Australia! Start planning for it now? As if. We might all be speaking Chinese or living underground in 30 years. We are one nasty swine flu DNA strain from a population of 3.5 million let alone 35 million? In short I'm not buying. It’s effective repudiation by increments of the Refugee Convention coming at PM Rudd from one side, and the West Atlas oil spill undermining the case for $50B Gorgon development on Kimberley coming from another side, and the likely failure of CPRS crueling his poise at Copenhagen from another direction, and unconvincing case for a $43 billion NBN with Telstra ADSL via copper not half bad option, so what does Ruddy do …..

He defaults to his old ALP mates in the big developer sector in his speech last night, saying now the Feds (Arbib?) will be gatekeepers on those budget construction dollars, not the States. It’s NSW Inc on the national stage - the Libs were strangely correct in their predictions, Rudd is an extension of the NSW Right.

Speaking of which - can’t you justify any massive urban ‘planning’ budget boondoggle by applying a projection of 30 years in the future? I love a big Australia! Start planning for it now? As if. We might all be speaking Chinese or living underground in 30 years. We are one nasty swine flu DNA strain from a population of 3.5 million let alone 35 million?

In short I’m not buying.

]]> By: meski http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/#comment-43248 meski Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:19:28 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/#comment-43248 ' Wilson rose to declare “this is a question about supplying assistance and facilities to aged people with dementia. ' Surely he has a conflict of interest in commenting on dementia? ’ Wilson rose to declare “this is a question about supplying assistance and facilities to aged people with dementia. ‘

Surely he has a conflict of interest in commenting on dementia?

]]> By: Liz45 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/#comment-43237 Liz45 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:53:48 +0000 http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/28/question-time-fun-see-kevin-run-see-kevin-hide/#comment-43237 All the while this charade is going on, there's human beings in the hot sun, suffering who knows what due to the stuff up of the Rudd Govt. I've lost count of where the kids are and how many there are. Little kids can't cope with this sort of environment, and nor should they. It doesn't take a child long to dehydrate and in cramped conditions, illnesses like gastroenteritis are a realistic threat. Rudd needs to have the b***s to do the adult and responsible thing and have these people come to Australia. If they're found to be in real danger they stay, if not, they go home. What's happening in Sri Lanka at this time is disgraceful, and yet nobody in authority has come out and accused the Sri Lankan govt of ethnic cleansing and/or genocide. It is disgraceful. I heard along the way that there's a pregnant woman(could be more?) on board one of those vessels. Where's Tony Abbott and his 'right to life' diatribe? He, like his mates are very selective in choosing whose lives they believe have a right to be. In comparison to countries in Europe, the numbers who've arrived here this year,(and there'll probably be more)are miniscule. The nonsense and hysteria is not a good or proud look by any in the Parliament, except for The Greens, and those brave souls on government and opposition benches who are showing any sort of leadership or justice or humanity. I feel ashamed! It's a fact that not many countries are signatories to the Migration or Refugee Act/s and that is probably why those persons seeking refuge come here. We probably get the better educated etc as they have the money to travel(doesn't mean that they're not in danger of death or worse) while the poverty stricken are left to rot in hell holes in other countries. A solution would be for all countries to take some responsiblity, such as Indonesia, India etc. According to David Marr's article in todays Sydney Morning Herald, there are many children in a 'detention like' environment on Christmas Island. Chris Evans insistence that no children are in detention is disingenous, as where they are, they don't have the freedom to move around, play, go to school or live in a family like environment. Some don't have parents, and they should be in foster care, not locked up, with their only way of getting out is if they're accompanied by an official! That's not what the Legislation says!That's detention with another name. I demand, that all children live in the community while their parents claims or theirs if alone is assessed. I don't want children restrained other than for their health and safety; the same as parents would undertake!(this should happen after health checks clear them of the need for isolation or intensive health care - in a hospital, not a detention centre - regardless of what it's called?) It's interesting to note, that living in the community is the cheapest option while asylum seekers await the processing of their claim for asylum. Cost of detention for one day on Christmas Island, as at 2007 figures is $1830 Cost of detention for one day in Villawood Detention Centre also at 2007 figures, is $238 - a huge difference! All the while this charade is going on, there’s human beings in the hot sun, suffering who knows what due to the stuff up of the Rudd Govt. I’ve lost count of where the kids are and how many there are. Little kids can’t cope with this sort of environment, and nor should they. It doesn’t take a child long to dehydrate and in cramped conditions, illnesses like gastroenteritis are a realistic threat. Rudd needs to have the b***s to do the adult and responsible thing and have these people come to Australia. If they’re found to be in real danger they stay, if not, they go home. What’s happening in Sri Lanka at this time is disgraceful, and yet nobody in authority has come out and accused the Sri Lankan govt of ethnic cleansing and/or genocide. It is disgraceful. I heard along the way that there’s a pregnant woman(could be more?) on board one of those vessels. Where’s Tony Abbott and his ‘right to life’ diatribe? He, like his mates are very selective in choosing whose lives they believe have a right to be.

In comparison to countries in Europe, the numbers who’ve arrived here this year,(and there’ll probably be more)are miniscule. The nonsense and hysteria is not a good or proud look by any in the Parliament, except for The Greens, and those brave souls on government and opposition benches who are showing any sort of leadership or justice or humanity. I feel ashamed!

It’s a fact that not many countries are signatories to the Migration or Refugee Act/s and that is probably why those persons seeking refuge come here. We probably get the better educated etc as they have the money to travel(doesn’t mean that they’re not in danger of death or worse) while the poverty stricken are left to rot in hell holes in other countries. A solution would be for all countries to take some responsiblity, such as Indonesia, India etc.

According to David Marr’s article in todays Sydney Morning Herald, there are many children in a ‘detention like’ environment on Christmas Island. Chris Evans insistence that no children are in detention is disingenous, as where they are, they don’t have the freedom to move around, play, go to school or live in a family like environment. Some don’t have parents, and they should be in foster care, not locked up, with their only way of getting out is if they’re accompanied by an official! That’s not what the Legislation says!That’s detention with another name. I demand, that all children live in the community while their parents claims or theirs if alone is assessed. I don’t want children restrained other than for their health and safety; the same as parents would undertake!(this should happen after health checks clear them of the need for isolation or intensive health care - in a hospital, not a detention centre - regardless of what it’s called?)

It’s interesting to note, that living in the community is the cheapest option while asylum seekers await the processing of their claim for asylum.
Cost of detention for one day on Christmas Island, as at 2007 figures is $1830
Cost of detention for one day in Villawood Detention Centre also at 2007 figures, is $238 - a huge difference!

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