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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43495</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Venise, what a shame the editor didn&#039;t allow my previous post.  How you would have laughed at my humorous characterisation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Venise, what a shame the editor didn&#8217;t allow my previous post.  How you would have laughed at my humorous characterisation</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43425</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask and ye shall receive. :(</description>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43350</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well gee Venise your humorous tone just didn&#039;t translate to black and white but thanks for backing it up with an ad hominen worthy of JamesK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well gee Venise your humorous tone just didn&#8217;t translate to black and white but thanks for backing it up with an ad hominen worthy of JamesK</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43278</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBH: Oh for heaven&#039;s sake, where is your sense of humour? Why is it that the professional bleeding hearts are so devoid of  irony and fun?

Did you read Evan Beaver&#039;s comment back to my &quot;inter-city ribbing into a slag at people? He, as usual was smart enough to know I  was doing a bit of stirring, and responded accordingly, as did I, to him. Read the two comments SBH, do they look remotely as if we are having an argument?

Had you read my whole comment, instead of flying off the handle after the first paragraph you would have read where I excluded members of the press, specifically, from my comment.

Of course there are dozens of other occupations, whose owners employ a lot of people. Worthy people all. But I have neither the time, nor the space to include them all.

As I have said frequently, to you. You have to be a member of the &#039;home-birthing mob; their self-righteousness is apppalling-and devoid of any sense of lightness.
I&#039;m damned if I will allow the likes of you to stuff up my day.

If I was having as big a chip on my shoulder as you have, I would march into the nearest public library and do some research into humour. I daresay you hate Ben Pobjie&#039;s delicious and fun driven irony.

Please SBH, go and bleed somewhere else, there&#039;s a good girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBH: Oh for heaven&#8217;s sake, where is your sense of humour? Why is it that the professional bleeding hearts are so devoid of  irony and fun?</p>
<p>Did you read Evan Beaver&#8217;s comment back to my &#8220;inter-city ribbing into a slag at people? He, as usual was smart enough to know I  was doing a bit of stirring, and responded accordingly, as did I, to him. Read the two comments SBH, do they look remotely as if we are having an argument?</p>
<p>Had you read my whole comment, instead of flying off the handle after the first paragraph you would have read where I excluded members of the press, specifically, from my comment.</p>
<p>Of course there are dozens of other occupations, whose owners employ a lot of people. Worthy people all. But I have neither the time, nor the space to include them all.</p>
<p>As I have said frequently, to you. You have to be a member of the &#8216;home-birthing mob; their self-righteousness is apppalling-and devoid of any sense of lightness.<br />
I&#8217;m damned if I will allow the likes of you to stuff up my day.</p>
<p>If I was having as big a chip on my shoulder as you have, I would march into the nearest public library and do some research into humour. I daresay you hate Ben Pobjie&#8217;s delicious and fun driven irony.</p>
<p>Please SBH, go and bleed somewhere else, there&#8217;s a good girl.</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43208</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Venise you&#039;ve tumbled headlong into the classic Canberra-hater trap.  Canberra = the Federal Government.  You&#039;ve turned a thread with some light-hearted inter-city ribbing into a slag at people.

So public servants are lazy parasites?  That&#039;s a narrow nasty view.  I suppose that it&#039;s better to be a banker or miner, you know, one of those jobs where people really care about other people and whether or not the country is well run and how best to get people the services they need.

And what about all the people in Canberra who aren&#039;t public servants?

But tell me this, if no one collected tax and ensured it was distributed with some degree of control and responsibility who&#039;d build your road, hospital, library (substitute favourite piece of public infrastructure).  Maybe you&#039;d like a world organised like LA in &#039;Snow Crash&#039;.

I won&#039;t argue the point, that view is anti-intellectual claptrap and beneath your usual standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Venise you&#8217;ve tumbled headlong into the classic Canberra-hater trap.  Canberra = the Federal Government.  You&#8217;ve turned a thread with some light-hearted inter-city ribbing into a slag at people.</p>
<p>So public servants are lazy parasites?  That&#8217;s a narrow nasty view.  I suppose that it&#8217;s better to be a banker or miner, you know, one of those jobs where people really care about other people and whether or not the country is well run and how best to get people the services they need.</p>
<p>And what about all the people in Canberra who aren&#8217;t public servants?</p>
<p>But tell me this, if no one collected tax and ensured it was distributed with some degree of control and responsibility who&#8217;d build your road, hospital, library (substitute favourite piece of public infrastructure).  Maybe you&#8217;d like a world organised like LA in &#8216;Snow Crash&#8217;.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t argue the point, that view is anti-intellectual claptrap and beneath your usual standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43179</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVAN BEAVER: You already have my total respect. Ummm, how do I re-give it to you? 

Is it really exactly 38 hours? It must be tedious work if you have to time it so exactly.

With even more respect :) :) :) I&#039;m parallel to the ground B4 U.

Cheers

Venise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVAN BEAVER: You already have my total respect. Ummm, how do I re-give it to you? </p>
<p>Is it really exactly 38 hours? It must be tedious work if you have to time it so exactly.</p>
<p>With even more respect <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m parallel to the ground B4 U.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Venise</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Beaver</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-43021</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Beaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongresent this statement Venise! And somewhat resemble.

You make it sound as though it&#039;s all beer and skittles here. It takes dedication to work 38 hours a week doing such utterly tedious work as this. Someone has to do it though, and I demand respect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongresent this statement Venise! And somewhat resemble.</p>
<p>You make it sound as though it&#8217;s all beer and skittles here. It takes dedication to work 38 hours a week doing such utterly tedious work as this. Someone has to do it though, and I demand respect!</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42992</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone who is raving about the joys of Canberra:-Lest you forget. Canberra is inhabited by takers, while the rest of Oz works for a living you, the uncivil servants,
produce nothing. The rest of Oz pays for you to live in your golden ghetto. Also the country pays for all the Parliamentarians squatting in their splendid parliament house.

We, the poor sods who pay the madder elements of the Opposition-the name Wilson Tuckey comes to mind. As does the name of Steve Fielding. All you lot have to do is shuffle papers. Everyone else is forced to work to support all of you. And the pollies of the Opposition do bugger all. 

The representatives of the press are exempted from my comments. they really do work. Pity about the paper-shufflers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone who is raving about the joys of Canberra:-Lest you forget. Canberra is inhabited by takers, while the rest of Oz works for a living you, the uncivil servants,<br />
produce nothing. The rest of Oz pays for you to live in your golden ghetto. Also the country pays for all the Parliamentarians squatting in their splendid parliament house.</p>
<p>We, the poor sods who pay the madder elements of the Opposition-the name Wilson Tuckey comes to mind. As does the name of Steve Fielding. All you lot have to do is shuffle papers. Everyone else is forced to work to support all of you. And the pollies of the Opposition do bugger all. </p>
<p>The representatives of the press are exempted from my comments. they really do work. Pity about the paper-shufflers.</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42957</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erratum:
unmollested
I wonder when was</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erratum:<br />
unmollested<br />
I wonder when was</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42953</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acannon In 1996 on the eve of the federal election me and my mate rode our pushies over the top of Parliament house.  The security guard half way up the hill smiled at us and gave us a wave.  We used to ride around Parliament drive unmolleste and for fun down through the carpark of the ministerial entrance. 

The design of Parliament house is full of symbolism.  I wonder who the last time the doors of the building were opened to allow the Prime Minister to sit at his desk and and be reminded of the direct cost of war.  Parliament House is buried so that people can walk over the Parliament to remind us all that parliament and government is subordinate to the people not the other way around.

None of that&#039;s possible anymore.  Howard put an end to all that and well before September 11.
The freedom of movement around our national parliament is one of the symbols of loss wrought by howard that I feel very keenly.  I would rejoice at the sight of your dad skiing down the hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acannon In 1996 on the eve of the federal election me and my mate rode our pushies over the top of Parliament house.  The security guard half way up the hill smiled at us and gave us a wave.  We used to ride around Parliament drive unmolleste and for fun down through the carpark of the ministerial entrance. </p>
<p>The design of Parliament house is full of symbolism.  I wonder who the last time the doors of the building were opened to allow the Prime Minister to sit at his desk and and be reminded of the direct cost of war.  Parliament House is buried so that people can walk over the Parliament to remind us all that parliament and government is subordinate to the people not the other way around.</p>
<p>None of that&#8217;s possible anymore.  Howard put an end to all that and well before September 11.<br />
The freedom of movement around our national parliament is one of the symbols of loss wrought by howard that I feel very keenly.  I would rejoice at the sight of your dad skiing down the hill.</p>
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		<title>By: acannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>acannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you can walk over Parliament House anymore (let alone roll down its grassy slopes), due to heightened security measures, which is a big shame. It also severely limited my Dad&#039;s chances of being the first person to ski over Parliament House.

Canberra&#039;s pretty new, for a city. It takes a while for a place to build up &#039;character&#039;. Every time I go back it seems to have more and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you can walk over Parliament House anymore (let alone roll down its grassy slopes), due to heightened security measures, which is a big shame. It also severely limited my Dad&#8217;s chances of being the first person to ski over Parliament House.</p>
<p>Canberra&#8217;s pretty new, for a city. It takes a while for a place to build up &#8216;character&#8217;. Every time I go back it seems to have more and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42816</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard&#039;s opening sentence appears to be bourne out by most of the comments here. As a Sydneysider I love Canberra and enjoy visiting whenever I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard&#8217;s opening sentence appears to be bourne out by most of the comments here. As a Sydneysider I love Canberra and enjoy visiting whenever I can.</p>
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		<title>By: SBH</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42806</link>
		<dc:creator>SBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah James Mac, your (albeit rightist) common sense and decency all becomes clear, You grew up in Canberra.

All the rest yeah yeah Canberra stinks so stay away.  Thirty years ago Venise? Jesus Mario&#039;s in Brunswick st hadn&#039;t even opened then, of course things have changed.  Oh well I guess its not Sydney or Melbourne but then it doesn&#039;t have to be.  And not everyone lives a short spit from Gertrude street.  There&#039;s whole and worthwhile lives that go on in other parts of Australia.

&quot;It has the mountains..&quot; yes it certainly does.  Early season training up Stromlo, climb Black mountain in under 12 minutes, drop down Mt Ainslie without using your brakes.  There are few better ways to live than a bike and the Can&#039;s mountains.

Bullmore&#039;s Ghost - indeed, cold as charity, frozen water bottles, ice in your beard brrr. but all part of the fun when you think about it.

Oh and it also has the most decent premier in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah James Mac, your (albeit rightist) common sense and decency all becomes clear, You grew up in Canberra.</p>
<p>All the rest yeah yeah Canberra stinks so stay away.  Thirty years ago Venise? Jesus Mario&#8217;s in Brunswick st hadn&#8217;t even opened then, of course things have changed.  Oh well I guess its not Sydney or Melbourne but then it doesn&#8217;t have to be.  And not everyone lives a short spit from Gertrude street.  There&#8217;s whole and worthwhile lives that go on in other parts of Australia.</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>It has the mountains..&#8221; yes it certainly does.  Early season training up Stromlo, climb Black mountain in under 12 minutes, drop down Mt Ainslie without using your brakes.  There are few better ways to live than a bike and the Can&#8217;s mountains.</p>
<p>Bullmore&#8217;s Ghost - indeed, cold as charity, frozen water bottles, ice in your beard brrr. but all part of the fun when you think about it.</p>
<p>Oh and it also has the most decent premier in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42800</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James McDonald: I&#039;m in a hurry. Funnily enough I&#039;ve seen worse, a lot worse. Take down the fence and it would make the perfect spot to replace Canberra.
Totally without soul, but isn&#039;t that what&#039;s wrong with Canberra?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James McDonald: I&#8217;m in a hurry. Funnily enough I&#8217;ve seen worse, a lot worse. Take down the fence and it would make the perfect spot to replace Canberra.<br />
Totally without soul, but isn&#8217;t that what&#8217;s wrong with Canberra?</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42797</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the link for my proposed new national capital (if the moderator is around): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUYGkVtqY-0
Make sure you have your computer&#039;s sound turned on.
Canberra would then become a great place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the link for my proposed new national capital (if the moderator is around): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUYGkVtqY-0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUYGkVtqY-0</a><br />
Make sure you have your computer&#8217;s sound turned on.<br />
Canberra would then become a great place.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42795</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Pastry: Bollocks! All the Melburnians I know, including me, take turns to be first in line to take pot shots at the place. 

If you really want to risk your life get onto a peak hour train and shout-loudly-that the Melbourne train system is the best in the world. Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Pastry: Bollocks! All the Melburnians I know, including me, take turns to be first in line to take pot shots at the place. </p>
<p>If you really want to risk your life get onto a peak hour train and shout-loudly-that the Melbourne train system is the best in the world. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pastry</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42792</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Pastry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have a go at Melbourne, Melburnians will barely glance up from their coffees&quot;
Which Melbourne is that then?  Living there for 7 years I accidentally let slip a flippant remark about the place that was taken as derogatory and a chase through alleyways ensued.  I had to cross  borders twice before I felt safe.  It was good to hear positive comments above on Canberra but it is still a public service town that sucks in our tax payer dollars to feather very comfortable nests - no wonder those that live there like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Have a go at Melbourne, Melburnians will barely glance up from their coffees&#8221;<br />
Which Melbourne is that then?  Living there for 7 years I accidentally let slip a flippant remark about the place that was taken as derogatory and a chase through alleyways ensued.  I had to cross  borders twice before I felt safe.  It was good to hear positive comments above on Canberra but it is still a public service town that sucks in our tax payer dollars to feather very comfortable nests - no wonder those that live there like it.</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42785</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a perfectly good location where you wouldn&#039;t even need to build a new Parliament House, it&#039;s all ready to go and just needs swapping around. More modest and tasteful in keeping with Keating&#039;s comment that the current one is too grandiose. See  youtube.com/watch?v=GUYGkVtqY-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a perfectly good location where you wouldn&#8217;t even need to build a new Parliament House, it&#8217;s all ready to go and just needs swapping around. More modest and tasteful in keeping with Keating&#8217;s comment that the current one is too grandiose. See  youtube.com/watch?v=GUYGkVtqY-0</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42784</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James McDonald: Multiply those committees by 100,000 and you&#039;d still be short of the mark.

The only reason all governments want more and more people to come to Oz is the hope that all of their kids will be incipient-can it be congenital?- civil servants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James McDonald: Multiply those committees by 100,000 and you&#8217;d still be short of the mark.</p>
<p>The only reason all governments want more and more people to come to Oz is the hope that all of their kids will be incipient-can it be congenital?- civil servants.</p>
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		<title>By: Altakoi</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42783</link>
		<dc:creator>Altakoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then you would all just be complaining about how boring the federal territory of Albonga is, which would be a loss given the general view that Albury and Wodonga are vibrant centres of excitement. If I ever have to park a truck somewhere for the night, that would definitely be my number one choice over Tarcutta. Personally,  I would have liked Dalgety for proximity to the snow but you can&#039;t have everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you would all just be complaining about how boring the federal territory of Albonga is, which would be a loss given the general view that Albury and Wodonga are vibrant centres of excitement. If I ever have to park a truck somewhere for the night, that would definitely be my number one choice over Tarcutta. Personally,  I would have liked Dalgety for proximity to the snow but you can&#8217;t have everything.</p>
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		<title>By: james mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42782</link>
		<dc:creator>james mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Gavin, that wouldn&#039;t do, it would have failed to set the pattern for creating a whole new committee or piece of legislation to solve each new current-affairs crisis instead of reallocating resources to existing instruments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Gavin, that wouldn&#8217;t do, it would have failed to set the pattern for creating a whole new committee or piece of legislation to solve each new current-affairs crisis instead of reallocating resources to existing instruments.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Moodie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42777</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Moodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia should have made its capital Albury-Wodonga.  With the additional funding from government services Aldonga would have developed into a major city balancing Sydney and Melbourne, yet still have a seperate economy to leaven the government services.  An incidental benefit would have been the establishment of a federal territory to escape the enervating State division at the border.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia should have made its capital Albury-Wodonga.  With the additional funding from government services Aldonga would have developed into a major city balancing Sydney and Melbourne, yet still have a seperate economy to leaven the government services.  An incidental benefit would have been the establishment of a federal territory to escape the enervating State division at the border.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42765</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was once offered a job in Canberra but, having spent a winter week there when I was the coldest I&#039;ve ever been at night, I found it easy to decline the offer.

Nice place to visit, but if you need a log fire then it&#039;s not where I want to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once offered a job in Canberra but, having spent a winter week there when I was the coldest I&#8217;ve ever been at night, I found it easy to decline the offer.</p>
<p>Nice place to visit, but if you need a log fire then it&#8217;s not where I want to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Altakoi</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42763</link>
		<dc:creator>Altakoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always said the lack of alfresco dining options would be the city&#039;s downfall, and now see where it has led us? I&#039;d trade all the asian restraunts of Wooley St for a single pork ball to be lobbed at me in a darkened park! Let me out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always said the lack of alfresco dining options would be the city&#8217;s downfall, and now see where it has led us? I&#8217;d trade all the asian restraunts of Wooley St for a single pork ball to be lobbed at me in a darkened park! Let me out!</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/23/canberra-sure-its-boring-but-its-also-beautiful/#comment-42755</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly things have changed in Canberra, but I remember about thirty years ago my partner and I went to Canberra for four days.

The hotels/motels were of a standard I would expect to find in Geelong. If Chinese/Vietnamese/Lao/Cambodian/Thai food was available, I couldn&#039;t find it, and as my mum used to say &quot;If Venise can&#039;t find it, the food is inedible.&quot;

However, the thing that really, really got to me was that all the streets had been made not to be walked in: side street cafés and nichè boutiques, markets??? NABT

For the first time in my life, as the plane&#039;s landing flaps came down, I wanted to love Melbourne. And when we disembarked I actually knelt on the bitumen and kissed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly things have changed in Canberra, but I remember about thirty years ago my partner and I went to Canberra for four days.</p>
<p>The hotels/motels were of a standard I would expect to find in Geelong. If Chinese/Vietnamese/Lao/Cambodian/Thai food was available, I couldn&#8217;t find it, and as my mum used to say &#8220;If Venise can&#8217;t find it, the food is inedible.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, the thing that really, really got to me was that all the streets had been made not to be walked in: side street cafés and nichè boutiques, markets??? NABT</p>
<p>For the first time in my life, as the plane&#8217;s landing flaps came down, I wanted to love Melbourne. And when we disembarked I actually knelt on the bitumen and kissed it.</p>
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