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	<title>Comments on: Auntie gives Rupert a helping hand with Punch</title>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/22/auntie-gives-rupert-a-helping-hand-with-punch/#comment-42509</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m starting to get this now. Penberthy is the more centrist style of News Corp smartie along with Farr and that chick in the Sunday Telegraph to offset the nasty malice of Piers and Tim Blair with Hildebrand in a sort of zoo cage of his own - locked and loaded you might say. Milne is clearly conservative but he does aspire to real journalism at times while Piers here is well an intellectual and moral &amp;*$%# whose words are related to reality the way the Earth is in the solar system somewhere.

And I would suggest Punch and classy name bloggers from ABC both have something to offer each other. ABC get to reinforce a guy who at the least is not a racist on the flanks of the Beast. Not a small thing in a safari park like News Corp. And they get some friendly copy on John Saffran in return which is a bonus (eg today&#039;s Sydney Telegraph press). 

On the other hand both want to contest Crikey&#039;s increasing consolidation of web  cut through in the centrist stakes. Because in its demographic the ABC has as much of a corporate self interest as anyone. One might say that is the ABC&#039;s genius - to promote balance with them as Gatekeeper. And News Corp are offended by any commercial model like crikey that they can&#039;t cook and eat.

So there you go Crikey, it&#039;s a backhanded compliment. Now I guess you know how other commercial business feel about ABC forays in various economic sectors with their tax boost. Life was not meant to be easy. Indeed Unleashed is a crikey rival in a golden cage too (and thereby lacking that wild pizazz). 

(But I will say one thing when I covered an education rally at Sydney uni pre 2007 Howard defeat, with lots of nice embarrassing pics and was molested by security stooges and banned off the campus, one person offered this freelance blogger some sectoral moral support - Mark Colvin, bless his socks. That meant alot to me at the time. Even the student association had nothing to say, and I was publicising their rally. Scared or what? I distinctly remember that woman from the Glasshouse doing her student union work and taking a very wide berth so the goons didn&#039;t go her. Celebrity without solidarity.

Eventually pressure from the NSW Ombudsman forced the university to lift their fascist ban on valid community media. Tsk tsk.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m starting to get this now. Penberthy is the more centrist style of News Corp smartie along with Farr and that chick in the Sunday Telegraph to offset the nasty malice of Piers and Tim Blair with Hildebrand in a sort of zoo cage of his own - locked and loaded you might say. Milne is clearly conservative but he does aspire to real journalism at times while Piers here is well an intellectual and moral &amp;*$%# whose words are related to reality the way the Earth is in the solar system somewhere.</p>
<p>And I would suggest Punch and classy name bloggers from ABC both have something to offer each other. ABC get to reinforce a guy who at the least is not a racist on the flanks of the Beast. Not a small thing in a safari park like News Corp. And they get some friendly copy on John Saffran in return which is a bonus (eg today&#8217;s Sydney Telegraph press). </p>
<p>On the other hand both want to contest Crikey&#8217;s increasing consolidation of web  cut through in the centrist stakes. Because in its demographic the ABC has as much of a corporate self interest as anyone. One might say that is the ABC&#8217;s genius - to promote balance with them as Gatekeeper. And News Corp are offended by any commercial model like crikey that they can&#8217;t cook and eat.</p>
<p>So there you go Crikey, it&#8217;s a backhanded compliment. Now I guess you know how other commercial business feel about ABC forays in various economic sectors with their tax boost. Life was not meant to be easy. Indeed Unleashed is a crikey rival in a golden cage too (and thereby lacking that wild pizazz). </p>
<p>(But I will say one thing when I covered an education rally at Sydney uni pre 2007 Howard defeat, with lots of nice embarrassing pics and was molested by security stooges and banned off the campus, one person offered this freelance blogger some sectoral moral support - Mark Colvin, bless his socks. That meant alot to me at the time. Even the student association had nothing to say, and I was publicising their rally. Scared or what? I distinctly remember that woman from the Glasshouse doing her student union work and taking a very wide berth so the goons didn&#8217;t go her. Celebrity without solidarity.</p>
<p>Eventually pressure from the NSW Ombudsman forced the university to lift their fascist ban on valid community media. Tsk tsk.)</p>
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		<title>By: jossy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/22/auntie-gives-rupert-a-helping-hand-with-punch/#comment-42490</link>
		<dc:creator>jossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is basic corporate economics 101.

Socialise your costs and privatise the profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is basic corporate economics 101.</p>
<p>Socialise your costs and privatise the profits.</p>
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		<title>By: baal</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/22/auntie-gives-rupert-a-helping-hand-with-punch/#comment-42461</link>
		<dc:creator>baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One broadcaster might take a wry view of all  his - Stephen Crittenden of the religious broadcasting department - was suspended a few years ago for daring to write a book review for a newspaper without getting permission first. Although Critto was well known for standing up to managers (and later did it on air to his cost)  the review made no mention of the ABC but was used as a way of getting at him by a particularly dumb bully whose term running ABC national networks was as much a mystery to himself as everyone else in radio. Such types continue to blight our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One broadcaster might take a wry view of all  his - Stephen Crittenden of the religious broadcasting department - was suspended a few years ago for daring to write a book review for a newspaper without getting permission first. Although Critto was well known for standing up to managers (and later did it on air to his cost)  the review made no mention of the ABC but was used as a way of getting at him by a particularly dumb bully whose term running ABC national networks was as much a mystery to himself as everyone else in radio. Such types continue to blight our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: rosanna.ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/10/22/auntie-gives-rupert-a-helping-hand-with-punch/#comment-42368</link>
		<dc:creator>rosanna.ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Margaret - in this article both you and David Penberthy say that the Mark Colvin and Leigh Sales blogs are published on Unleashed as well as the Punch. Actually, they&#039;re on the Off Air blog, which isn&#039;t part of Unleashed; it comes under the ABC News Online banner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Margaret - in this article both you and David Penberthy say that the Mark Colvin and Leigh Sales blogs are published on Unleashed as well as the Punch. Actually, they&#8217;re on the Off Air blog, which isn&#8217;t part of Unleashed; it comes under the ABC News Online banner.</p>
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