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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Respectember at your ABC</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-39111</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian: 
I&#039;ve worked for big free-enterprise companies. The last one had been amazingly wasteful (mainly at the top management levels) for years, and was taken over 6 years ago despite a remarkable and relatively sudden (compared to the years of continuous waste &amp; self-interest at the highest levels) 4-year turn-around in fortunes that had occurred due to the influx of enthusiastic &amp; quality-focussed leadership -a previously unknown concept at top levels of the firm.

That is a preamble to saying I agree completely with the tenor of your comments - though perhaps your mob&#039;s turn-around may be in the future. 

I sincerely hope that one day the ABC&#039;s administration might match the ability &amp; commitment of the staff. 

Perhaps the only difference (at a guess) is that your &amp; my &quot;lives of quiet desperation&quot; at work, engendered by fighting with clouds for so long, would be that though I am sure the work was as challenging &amp; satisfying for you as for me, my rewards for continuing to keep going on with the hard work were financially respectable, even at the middle levels where most of the actual management &amp; guidance work in most firms gets done in a fashion that will [have a stab at] succeed[ing].

The real cash was made well above my head, and that I imagine we both share.

Regards, and keep going. There is a large number of keen listeners out here in what would otherwise be a wasteland without the ABC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:<br />
I&#8217;ve worked for big free-enterprise companies. The last one had been amazingly wasteful (mainly at the top management levels) for years, and was taken over 6 years ago despite a remarkable and relatively sudden (compared to the years of continuous waste &amp; self-interest at the highest levels) 4-year turn-around in fortunes that had occurred due to the influx of enthusiastic &amp; quality-focussed leadership -a previously unknown concept at top levels of the firm.</p>
<p>That is a preamble to saying I agree completely with the tenor of your comments - though perhaps your mob&#8217;s turn-around may be in the future. </p>
<p>I sincerely hope that one day the ABC&#8217;s administration might match the ability &amp; commitment of the staff. </p>
<p>Perhaps the only difference (at a guess) is that your &amp; my &#8220;lives of quiet desperation&#8221; at work, engendered by fighting with clouds for so long, would be that though I am sure the work was as challenging &amp; satisfying for you as for me, my rewards for continuing to keep going on with the hard work were financially respectable, even at the middle levels where most of the actual management &amp; guidance work in most firms gets done in a fashion that will [have a stab at] succeed[ing].</p>
<p>The real cash was made well above my head, and that I imagine we both share.</p>
<p>Regards, and keep going. There is a large number of keen listeners out here in what would otherwise be a wasteland without the ABC.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-39054</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian: Twang. Or is it twing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian: Twang. Or is it twing?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Nicolson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-39044</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Nicolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise. And mine that ALL organisations, private sector businesses included, constantly indulge in this often useless, sometimes quite productive tosh. Your knee-jerk against non-private spending on workplace relations (irrationally excluding the private sector&#039;s version) just twitched one more time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise. And mine that ALL organisations, private sector businesses included, constantly indulge in this often useless, sometimes quite productive tosh. Your knee-jerk against non-private spending on workplace relations (irrationally excluding the private sector&#8217;s version) just twitched one more time.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-38999</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian. My whole point was that I was using the ABC as a microcosm-if anything that large can be a microcosm-for all government and NGOs to squander everyones money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian. My whole point was that I was using the ABC as a microcosm-if anything that large can be a microcosm-for all government and NGOs to squander everyones money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Nicolson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-38974</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Nicolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise, if you can show me any large institution that doesn&#039;t use/waste either your tax dollars or the price you paid for something on a whole range of similar HR &quot;initiatives&quot; I&#039;ll accept your knee-jerk anti-Aunty response is a reasonable one . . .  

Kate, in answer to your rhetorical question, we can . . . and in many cases do . . . even at Poor Aunty. Usually its just that the rude &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt;incompetent ones end up running the place and thus setting the tone. 

Bit like most comment forums, really . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise, if you can show me any large institution that doesn&#8217;t use/waste either your tax dollars or the price you paid for something on a whole range of similar HR &#8220;initiatives&#8221; I&#8217;ll accept your knee-jerk anti-Aunty response is a reasonable one &#8230;  </p>
<p>Kate, in answer to your rhetorical question, we can &#8230; and in many cases do &#8230; even at Poor Aunty. Usually its just that the rude <i>and</i>incompetent ones end up running the place and thus setting the tone. </p>
<p>Bit like most comment forums, really &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wyane</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-37014</link>
		<dc:creator>wyane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best FDotM eva ... well, since I&#039;ve been subscribing. Oh, and I&#039;m yet to read the ones from the 7th, 8th and 9th. And by &quot;best&quot; I&#039;m only applying level and length of laughter criteria. So, actually, it may not be the &quot;best&quot;. But it made me laugh.

Is it too late to change your Walkley entry?

BTW - there is no link to Friday&#039;s Daily email when I log in. Wanted to re-read those lovely patronising emails from Auntie Agatha or whatsername?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best FDotM eva &#8230; well, since I&#8217;ve been subscribing. Oh, and I&#8217;m yet to read the ones from the 7th, 8th and 9th. And by &#8220;best&#8221; I&#8217;m only applying level and length of laughter criteria. So, actually, it may not be the &#8220;best&#8221;. But it made me laugh.</p>
<p>Is it too late to change your Walkley entry?</p>
<p>BTW - there is no link to Friday&#8217;s Daily email when I log in. Wanted to re-read those lovely patronising emails from Auntie Agatha or whatsername?</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36645</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JANESHAW: Love your *Returns to beating head rythmically  against floor*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JANESHAW: Love your *Returns to beating head rythmically  against floor*.</p>
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		<title>By: acannon</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36623</link>
		<dc:creator>acannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE F*ckofftober! How many of us can convince our workplaces to (probably unofficially) take up the cause?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE F*ckofftober! How many of us can convince our workplaces to (probably unofficially) take up the cause?</p>
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		<title>By: alanjohnston</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36607</link>
		<dc:creator>alanjohnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to die too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to die too.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36593</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely brilliant!  Cannot wait for Fuckofftober!!! lol lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely brilliant!  Cannot wait for Fuckofftober!!! lol lol</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36590</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh get over yourself Venise.

Sure, it&#039;s totally silly and patronising, and completely deserves Firstdog&#039;s classic pisstaking, but it&#039;s hardly an egregious waste of taxpayers&#039;s money, and certainly not a hanging offence or worth fleeing to Argentina in protest.   A few emails, a couple of posters, and several hours of &quot;People&#039;s&quot; time who probably weren&#039;t doing much constructive anyway.  Whaddeva.

And why can&#039;t we have polite AND efficient?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh get over yourself Venise.</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s totally silly and patronising, and completely deserves Firstdog&#8217;s classic pisstaking, but it&#8217;s hardly an egregious waste of taxpayers&#8217;s money, and certainly not a hanging offence or worth fleeing to Argentina in protest.   A few emails, a couple of posters, and several hours of &#8220;People&#8217;s&#8221; time who probably weren&#8217;t doing much constructive anyway.  Whaddeva.</p>
<p>And why can&#8217;t we have polite AND efficient?</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36578</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suddenly I&#039;ve lost my sense of humour. Those mongrels, the ABC,  are spending OUR money on minutae like the above mentioned crap? No, not the t-shirt Fd, those bastards are having internal &#039;happygrams&#039; at the tax-payer&#039;s expense?
I would rather have a rude staffer who does an efficient job, than a polite one who fucks-up everything.

This time, I am going to live in Argentina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suddenly I&#8217;ve lost my sense of humour. Those mongrels, the ABC,  are spending OUR money on minutae like the above mentioned crap? No, not the t-shirt Fd, those bastards are having internal &#8216;happygrams&#8217; at the tax-payer&#8217;s expense?<br />
I would rather have a rude staffer who does an efficient job, than a polite one who fucks-up everything.</p>
<p>This time, I am going to live in Argentina.</p>
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		<title>By: mtats</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36575</link>
		<dc:creator>mtats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos Firstdog, kudos.

Immediately printing it out and posting in office. Unless thats a copyright thing, which if it is, i&#039;m not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos Firstdog, kudos.</p>
<p>Immediately printing it out and posting in office. Unless thats a copyright thing, which if it is, i&#8217;m not.</p>
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		<title>By: paddy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36573</link>
		<dc:creator>paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s just the season FD. 
But by God you&#039;re on a roll!!!!  
An absolute Classic.  :-)  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s just the season FD.<br />
But by God you&#8217;re on a roll!!!!<br />
An absolute Classic.  <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Schipper</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36571</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Schipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the first day of Respectember my manager gave to me a consultant&#039;s view of proper thinking ways...
On the second day of Respectember my manager gave to me a platitude in a PowerPoint slide...
On the third day of Respectember my manager gave to me a twitter message on the world - wide - web
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the first day of Respectember my manager gave to me a consultant&#8217;s view of proper thinking ways&#8230;<br />
On the second day of Respectember my manager gave to me a platitude in a PowerPoint slide&#8230;<br />
On the third day of Respectember my manager gave to me a twitter message on the world - wide - web<br />
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36565</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FIRST DOG RULEZ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIRST DOG RULEZ!</p>
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		<title>By: JaneShaw</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36560</link>
		<dc:creator>JaneShaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this tweet while waiting on hold with the hell-spawn at Optus as I try to explain (again) that I want to have wireless internet access.

Thank you First Dog. 

*returns to beating head rhythmically against floor*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this tweet while waiting on hold with the hell-spawn at Optus as I try to explain (again) that I want to have wireless internet access.</p>
<p>Thank you First Dog. </p>
<p>*returns to beating head rhythmically against floor*</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Gretton</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36559</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Gretton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superlatives fail me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superlatives fail me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joal</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/04/first-dog-on-the-moon-394/#comment-36554</link>
		<dc:creator>Joal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We missed &quot;You Are All Idiots Week?&quot; Aw, man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We missed &#8220;You Are All Idiots Week?&#8221; Aw, man!</p>
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