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	<title>Comments on: Nationals leave Turnbull desperate and hapless</title>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35688</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking your mind banisters...does not automatically conclude that what you are speaking is from a mind that is balanced and sound. Regretfully on the evidence of your foul language, your mind is somewhat below the average intelligence. Makes your observations somewhat negligible and fanciful, and the thread of your anti female outburst suggests you have a problem generally with women politicians. Time you quietly slipped away old chap, silence could well be your best defence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking your mind banisters&#8230;does not automatically conclude that what you are speaking is from a mind that is balanced and sound. Regretfully on the evidence of your foul language, your mind is somewhat below the average intelligence. Makes your observations somewhat negligible and fanciful, and the thread of your anti female outburst suggests you have a problem generally with women politicians. Time you quietly slipped away old chap, silence could well be your best defence.</p>
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		<title>By: banistersmind</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35680</link>
		<dc:creator>banistersmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RaymondChurch - Fuck Off. There is not one woman in Australian politics right now who can be regarded as a good politician. They are all disappointing and driven more by image than substance. I am speaking my mind, I&#039;ll leave the smart arse shit you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RaymondChurch - Fuck Off. There is not one woman in Australian politics right now who can be regarded as a good politician. They are all disappointing and driven more by image than substance. I am speaking my mind, I&#8217;ll leave the smart arse shit you.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35632</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wot RayC sez except that he&#039;s too kind. Can&#039;t recall prev. posts from BanM (esprit de l&#039;escalier?) but, given t&#039;bove, it is another troll from the well funded right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wot RayC sez except that he&#8217;s too kind. Can&#8217;t recall prev. posts from BanM (esprit de l&#8217;escalier?) but, given t&#8217;bove, it is another troll from the well funded right.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35602</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BANISTERMIND: It would appear that your mind is as slippery and as winding as the stair furniture from which your name descends.
I&#039;ve always thought that Julia Gillard is one very smart operator. Her brain is as sharp as Kevin Rudd&#039;s mind.  It is well known they do not like each other. Yet her dissimulation is so expert she achieves her goals without posing a threat to the leader. It is said that Machiavelli had the same qualities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BANISTERMIND: It would appear that your mind is as slippery and as winding as the stair furniture from which your name descends.<br />
I&#8217;ve always thought that Julia Gillard is one very smart operator. Her brain is as sharp as Kevin Rudd&#8217;s mind.  It is well known they do not like each other. Yet her dissimulation is so expert she achieves her goals without posing a threat to the leader. It is said that Machiavelli had the same qualities.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35521</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>banistersmind, me thinks you are trying to be a smart arse, and not so smart at that. Your comments are worth zip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>banistersmind, me thinks you are trying to be a smart arse, and not so smart at that. Your comments are worth zip.</p>
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		<title>By: banistersmind</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35508</link>
		<dc:creator>banistersmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Venise Alstergren - how did you work out from my rant that I am anything close to resembling a conservative, when I have pilloried most of the conservatives within it. And on the subject of Gillard - never a better B grade actor reading a script have I ever encountered in Gillard nor a more empty vessel of character doth exist than Gillard. She is uninspiring at best at coldly calculating at worst. There will be a leader ship challenge within the ALP within the next 5 years and it will be Gillard in there gunning - not for the good of the country but for her only inflated ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Venise Alstergren - how did you work out from my rant that I am anything close to resembling a conservative, when I have pilloried most of the conservatives within it. And on the subject of Gillard - never a better B grade actor reading a script have I ever encountered in Gillard nor a more empty vessel of character doth exist than Gillard. She is uninspiring at best at coldly calculating at worst. There will be a leader ship challenge within the ALP within the next 5 years and it will be Gillard in there gunning - not for the good of the country but for her only inflated ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35473</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, indeed!</description>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35470</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sure HRH Prissey would get all giggly on a glass of best Sth Australian white, can&#039;t see him lined up at the local having a few pints with the boys though. Reminds me of a prefect at College when I was in year 8 or 9. Hair immaculate, tie always straight, fingernails cut and shaped all pinky like. Shoes with a shine a Sgt Major would be proud of, very much the yes Father, no Father, right away Father, anything else Father, then enjoyed belting the daylight out of us. In the 1st XV? Don&#039;t think so, anyone for tennis chaps? Nope definitely not a few pints sort of bloke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sure HRH Prissey would get all giggly on a glass of best Sth Australian white, can&#8217;t see him lined up at the local having a few pints with the boys though. Reminds me of a prefect at College when I was in year 8 or 9. Hair immaculate, tie always straight, fingernails cut and shaped all pinky like. Shoes with a shine a Sgt Major would be proud of, very much the yes Father, no Father, right away Father, anything else Father, then enjoyed belting the daylight out of us. In the 1st XV? Don&#8217;t think so, anyone for tennis chaps? Nope definitely not a few pints sort of bloke.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35465</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raymond: You think the Princess Prissy is too refeened to partake of the &#039;turps&#039;? Barnaby J is such a proverbial horse&#039;s A, yet the Nats want him as leader! I ask you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raymond: You think the Princess Prissy is too refeened to partake of the &#8216;turps&#8217;? Barnaby J is such a proverbial horse&#8217;s A, yet the Nats want him as leader! I ask you?</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35463</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise, the excitable Barnaby either enjoys a good drop of the &#039;turps&#039;or he isnt taking his BP medication. The way he spits out words at a rate of knots, I doubt his brain can keep up with verbal garbage regardless. Perhaps he isn&#039;t keen on the makeup dept, having his features dabbed with the powder puff? I&#039;m sure Christopher doesnt mind, he always looks a whiter shade of pale. A pat here a pat there, mmm looks goooood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise, the excitable Barnaby either enjoys a good drop of the &#8216;turps&#8217;or he isnt taking his BP medication. The way he spits out words at a rate of knots, I doubt his brain can keep up with verbal garbage regardless. Perhaps he isn&#8217;t keen on the makeup dept, having his features dabbed with the powder puff? I&#8217;m sure Christopher doesnt mind, he always looks a whiter shade of pale. A pat here a pat there, mmm looks goooood.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35438</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BANISTERSMIND: I hope you, mister Bannister, are smarter than your mind. To ignore Julia Gillard&#039;s contribution to Federal politics would suggest you are either stark, raving bonkers or a hopelessly dedicated conservative. The sort that chooses not to think for themselves.

Dear Raymond: I don&#039;t know how to ask this politely so I suppose I&#039;ll have to come right out with it. Do you think Barnaby Joyce nudges the bottle a bit? He&#039;s always got a bright red face and he hasn&#039;t got the clearest of minds. Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BANISTERSMIND: I hope you, mister Bannister, are smarter than your mind. To ignore Julia Gillard&#8217;s contribution to Federal politics would suggest you are either stark, raving bonkers or a hopelessly dedicated conservative. The sort that chooses not to think for themselves.</p>
<p>Dear Raymond: I don&#8217;t know how to ask this politely so I suppose I&#8217;ll have to come right out with it. Do you think Barnaby Joyce nudges the bottle a bit? He&#8217;s always got a bright red face and he hasn&#8217;t got the clearest of minds. Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35380</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>banistersmind, ever heard of a woman named Gillard??????????????...of course if you are really searching there is always Princess Pyne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>banistersmind, ever heard of a woman named Gillard??????????????&#8230;of course if you are really searching there is always Princess Pyne</p>
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		<title>By: banistersmind</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35370</link>
		<dc:creator>banistersmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure I&#039;ll pilloried for this but I have yet to come across one woman in federal parliment that has been of any use in the past 5 years. Bishop (J.) - Blah, Ellis - meh (read loves the camera), Neal - don&#039;t get me started, Bishop (B.) - straight out of a Tim Burton film, Roxon - how many steps to a nervous break down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure I&#8217;ll pilloried for this but I have yet to come across one woman in federal parliment that has been of any use in the past 5 years. Bishop (J.) - Blah, Ellis - meh (read loves the camera), Neal - don&#8217;t get me started, Bishop (B.) - straight out of a Tim Burton film, Roxon - how many steps to a nervous break down?</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35362</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turnbull, in contrast to Rudd is an avid AGW believer rather than an instinctive statist.

Presently politically and MSM vilified, Joyce and Ironbar make a perfectly sensible, if unpopular (and unwise politically), argument.
 
Many politicians of both political parties actually agree with them but are understandably if somewhat cravenly, unwilling to stick their necks out for fear of the Labor machine and/or the MSM. 

The recent RET and imminent pre Copenhagen cynically misnamed &#039;CPRS&#039; bills will cause great economic suffering and lost opportunity and all for absolutely no discernible benefit even if you are an ardent 
AGW believer.
 
When the MSM have got their leftist bit between the teeth, it requires a Lathamesque implosion to awaken the public to the truth. 

I hold no great hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnbull, in contrast to Rudd is an avid AGW believer rather than an instinctive statist.</p>
<p>Presently politically and MSM vilified, Joyce and Ironbar make a perfectly sensible, if unpopular (and unwise politically), argument.</p>
<p>Many politicians of both political parties actually agree with them but are understandably if somewhat cravenly, unwilling to stick their necks out for fear of the Labor machine and/or the MSM. </p>
<p>The recent RET and imminent pre Copenhagen cynically misnamed &#8216;CPRS&#8217; bills will cause great economic suffering and lost opportunity and all for absolutely no discernible benefit even if you are an ardent<br />
AGW believer.</p>
<p>When the MSM have got their leftist bit between the teeth, it requires a Lathamesque implosion to awaken the public to the truth. </p>
<p>I hold no great hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullmore's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35356</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullmore's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I urge Barnaby Joyce and Iron Bar Tuckey to quit their current &quot;allegiances&quot; and form The Dinkum Party and then really say what they think.

On seconds thoughts, I withdraw that suggestion until Pauline Hanson is deceased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I urge Barnaby Joyce and Iron Bar Tuckey to quit their current &#8220;allegiances&#8221; and form The Dinkum Party and then really say what they think.</p>
<p>On seconds thoughts, I withdraw that suggestion until Pauline Hanson is deceased.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35335</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His parents showed astonishing prescience in naming him Barnaby, presumably a nod to the Dickens&#039; character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His parents showed astonishing prescience in naming him Barnaby, presumably a nod to the Dickens&#8217; character.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Dunsford</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35329</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Dunsford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bernard.  I&#039;ve been talking around and I&#039;ve tried to put my finger on what does it all mean but no one has been able to give a picture.  The only thing that I came to recognise is that Joyce seems to be on a massive power trip, I don&#039;t think he is particularly stupid but he is actually believing (dictating!) a lot of garbage and no one seems to have the strength to tell him this.  I look forward to seeing what happens in the next 6 months.

p.s. I wonder if Rudd sometimes feels that this is just too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bernard.  I&#8217;ve been talking around and I&#8217;ve tried to put my finger on what does it all mean but no one has been able to give a picture.  The only thing that I came to recognise is that Joyce seems to be on a massive power trip, I don&#8217;t think he is particularly stupid but he is actually believing (dictating!) a lot of garbage and no one seems to have the strength to tell him this.  I look forward to seeing what happens in the next 6 months.</p>
<p>p.s. I wonder if Rudd sometimes feels that this is just too easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Tarvydas</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35318</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvey Tarvydas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intellegence is little use unless partnered by knowledge as you infer.
When a Joyce has neither but arrogance and ego instead and has been directed to believe in himself (everyone asks for advice and guidance) then reliance on the &#039;gut feelings&#039; of what is right is resorted to, very dangerous if those feelings are wrong and for Joyce, intellegence analysing a significant knowledge base sublimating to wisdom and redirection is unavailable. He can only change a direction if someone can out bully him to force a diferent commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intellegence is little use unless partnered by knowledge as you infer.<br />
When a Joyce has neither but arrogance and ego instead and has been directed to believe in himself (everyone asks for advice and guidance) then reliance on the &#8216;gut feelings&#8217; of what is right is resorted to, very dangerous if those feelings are wrong and for Joyce, intellegence analysing a significant knowledge base sublimating to wisdom and redirection is unavailable. He can only change a direction if someone can out bully him to force a diferent commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35315</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...oh and in that denialism, surprising in an accountant, is the risk to all RARA economies of a carbon style tariff on countries with no ETS from say the global reinsurance industry.

If Joyce and the Nats thought a bit more or listened to the knobs like Turnbull finance people in the Libs, they would realise that a carbon tariff or insurance black list would make the HIH disaster look like a bad overpriced expresso down at Bondi Beach. Sad but nothing to complain about given the view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;oh and in that denialism, surprising in an accountant, is the risk to all RARA economies of a carbon style tariff on countries with no ETS from say the global reinsurance industry.</p>
<p>If Joyce and the Nats thought a bit more or listened to the knobs like Turnbull finance people in the Libs, they would realise that a carbon tariff or insurance black list would make the HIH disaster look like a bad overpriced expresso down at Bondi Beach. Sad but nothing to complain about given the view.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35314</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with most, maybe all of your piece today ... for what it&#039;s worth out here on the fringe of RARA land.

But perhaps to add that Joyce ought to be respected the way a doomed wolf decides to fight to the death rather than go down with a whimper. Not commented on much in his chat with the Meet The Press folks yesterday was his comment to the effect of &#039;I&#039;m also thinking about whether to get out of politics [pause] there&#039;s a straight answer for you&#039;.

Sooo BJ is having thoughts of political mortality. But the fact remains the land use issues of climate change are so profound, denialism has to be a quite logical reaction for many. 

Hopefully someone will throw a canvas over him before he hurts himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with most, maybe all of your piece today &#8230; for what it&#8217;s worth out here on the fringe of RARA land.</p>
<p>But perhaps to add that Joyce ought to be respected the way a doomed wolf decides to fight to the death rather than go down with a whimper. Not commented on much in his chat with the Meet The Press folks yesterday was his comment to the effect of &#8216;I&#8217;m also thinking about whether to get out of politics [pause] there&#8217;s a straight answer for you&#8217;.</p>
<p>Sooo BJ is having thoughts of political mortality. But the fact remains the land use issues of climate change are so profound, denialism has to be a quite logical reaction for many. </p>
<p>Hopefully someone will throw a canvas over him before he hurts himself.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChurch</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaymondChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie Bishop, dum dee dum, dum dee doo. Even on Sunday this half wit was still putting her big foot right in her big gob, trying to wash over the stupid, nonsensical comments she has been persisting with since last Weds. It gets more and more difficult to ascertain just who is the most stupid of the Coalition. The Nats Joyce, only has to utter a couple of words and he enters the competition and so it goes. It is beyond belief that Malcolm the Mad, the leader of the mad mob, persists with Bishop as a spokesperson and doesn&#039;t ask his madders to get themselves a new deputy. Of course he could end up with Princess Pyne as his deputy, that would be madness personified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie Bishop, dum dee dum, dum dee doo. Even on Sunday this half wit was still putting her big foot right in her big gob, trying to wash over the stupid, nonsensical comments she has been persisting with since last Weds. It gets more and more difficult to ascertain just who is the most stupid of the Coalition. The Nats Joyce, only has to utter a couple of words and he enters the competition and so it goes. It is beyond belief that Malcolm the Mad, the leader of the mad mob, persists with Bishop as a spokesperson and doesn&#8217;t ask his madders to get themselves a new deputy. Of course he could end up with Princess Pyne as his deputy, that would be madness personified.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mollison</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/24/nationals-leave-turnbull-desperate-and-hapless/#comment-35229</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mollison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The behaviour of Sen Joyce is becoming more peculiar by the day.  He seems to be on a &quot;crash through or crash&quot; campaign that is primarily a vehicle for his ever increasing ego.  

Its hard to see how the mess that&#039;s being created can be fixed and poor old Malcolm Turnbull must be wondering what he did to deserve this.  Mr Turnbull&#039;s leadership appears untenable as the opposition parties are in the process of complete self destruction under his watch - due partly to ego, partly to lack of discipline (read mixed and confusing public messages) and partly due to poor performances (Julie Bishop being a prime example).  

It is becoming increasingly clear that the opposition has broken up into groups that are congregating around the people who can speak loudest, or are the best &quot;sport&quot; for TV news.  It took John Howard a along time to get them all under control and with his departure the &quot;power vacuum&quot; has led to public civil war. 

The departure of a well known &quot;hard man&quot; in the middle east and the power vacuum and total chaos that followed is not an unreasonable analogy of what is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The behaviour of Sen Joyce is becoming more peculiar by the day.  He seems to be on a &#8220;crash through or crash&#8221; campaign that is primarily a vehicle for his ever increasing ego.  </p>
<p>Its hard to see how the mess that&#8217;s being created can be fixed and poor old Malcolm Turnbull must be wondering what he did to deserve this.  Mr Turnbull&#8217;s leadership appears untenable as the opposition parties are in the process of complete self destruction under his watch - due partly to ego, partly to lack of discipline (read mixed and confusing public messages) and partly due to poor performances (Julie Bishop being a prime example).  </p>
<p>It is becoming increasingly clear that the opposition has broken up into groups that are congregating around the people who can speak loudest, or are the best &#8220;sport&#8221; for TV news.  It took John Howard a along time to get them all under control and with his departure the &#8220;power vacuum&#8221; has led to public civil war. </p>
<p>The departure of a well known &#8220;hard man&#8221; in the middle east and the power vacuum and total chaos that followed is not an unreasonable analogy of what is going on.</p>
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